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Cardboard Box A posted:There's gotta be at least a few icons from Windows 3.1 still in there right? I'm moderately sure the icon for regedit.exe hasn't changed since 3.1
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Fabricated posted:For some reason Microsoft just never sees fit to update all of the icons used by the base OS. Windows 9 will probably have some slightly new visual style to it by the time it comes out so it'll be even more of a mess visually nono flat icons open in the metro environment 3d icons open in the legacy desktop they just have flat icons living in both metro and legacy, and 3d icons living in both metro and legacy
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Jul 15, 2014 11:54
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cremnob posted:
has anyone said  windows 7 also had a challenger mindset yet
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Jul 15, 2014 13:53
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flakeloaf posted:has anyone said Microsoft Space Program Status: Developing a Challenger Mindset
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Jul 15, 2014 13:57
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flakeloaf posted:has anyone said american apparel did on twitter  in the twitter manager's "not american and born after the disaster"'s defense, it is a pretty impressive explosion in the sky
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Jul 15, 2014 14:08
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not american and born after the disaster but before reverse image search then again we have indian folks naming things adolf hitler so
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Speaking of Challenger Disaster Mindsets http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-15/microsoft-said-to-announce-job-cuts-as-soon-as-this-week.html  "Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is planning its biggest round of job cuts in five years, as the software maker looks to slim down and integrate Nokia Oyj’s handset unit, people with knowledge of the company’s plans said. The reductions -- which may be unveiled as soon as this week -- will probably be in areas such as Nokia and divisions of Microsoft that overlap with that business, as well as marketing and engineering, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the plans aren’t public. The restructuring may end up being the biggest in Microsoft history, topping the 5,800 jobs cut in 2009, two of the people said. Some details are still being worked out, two of the people said. ... Some of the job cuts will be in marketing departments for businesses such as the global Xbox team, said the people." edit: 
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Cardboard Box A posted:Speaking of Challenger Disaster Mindsets lol if you're on the xbox team and haven't kept your resume up to date as of this morning.
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Cardboard Box A posted:Speaking of Challenger Disaster Mindsets i'm the people
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:lol if you're on the xbox team this also ms just stop the phone thing is not going to happen for you if your business model says "one day we'll be as successful as android" on it just set it on fire then eat it
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Jul 15, 2014 14:57
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it's kinda weird how hard "refocus on software and the stuff that actually makes money" seems to be for microsoft to grasp but nah let's just do a really bad job spending zillions of dollars trying to force our way into hardware markets
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Jul 15, 2014 15:08
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Fabricated posted:but nah let's just do a really bad job spending zillions of dollars trying to force our way into hardware markets synchronized dub step dancing really makes me want a surface. click in. do more
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Jul 15, 2014 15:10
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graph posted:synchronized dub step dancing really makes me want a surface. click in. do more oh yeah let's also piss off every hardware vendor who subsidizes our existence by making our own hardware too
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Jul 15, 2014 15:11
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im glad they moved away from the dub step dancing to blast the world cup ads with Business Guy Doing Stuff. :slams enter key on touch pad:
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Jul 15, 2014 15:16
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I can't wait for the impending announcement that Microsoft is changing it's name to Microhard.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:20
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I legit think that this version of the start menu is worse looking than the start screen
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Jul 15, 2014 16:15
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metro tiles are a bad idea that they're going to cling to all the way down they're not even that good of an idea on a phone, it's just widgets in a grid
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Jul 15, 2014 16:22
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they added 30,000 employees with the Nokia purchase, lollin' if you think 5000 cuts will make a difference. MS should cut 50,000 (from the top down)
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Jul 15, 2014 16:37
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Scott Forstall posted:they added 30,000 employees with the Nokia purchase, lollin' if you think 5000 cuts will make a difference. MS should cut 50,000 (from the top down) do u know where the real scott forstall is?
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qirex posted:metro tiles are a bad idea that they're going to cling to all the way down im still utterly baffled that they decided to ignore the beta outcry and shove the start screen down desktop users' throats, only to turn around and backtrack after the damage was already done
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cremnob posted:do u know where the real scott forstall is? isnt he working on tizen
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:im still utterly baffled that they decided to ignore the beta outcry and shove the start screen down desktop users' throats, only to turn around and backtrack after the damage was already done for both this and the xbox drm fiasco they only backtracked when people were demonstrably not buying/pre-ordering it. microsoft gives no fucks about customer satisfaction until it impacts their bottom line
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Ocrassus posted:I can't wait for the impending announcement that Microsoft is changing it's name to Microhard. dsyp
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Jul 15, 2014 17:00
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I don't know what this means halp.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:im still utterly baffled that they decided to ignore the beta outcry and shove the start screen down desktop users' throats, only to turn around and backtrack after the damage was already done I mean, if you remove it you have uh...Win7 with some minor ui tweaks/bug fixes which is literally all anyone really wanted but how do you market THAT with half a billion dollars? Win8: Slightly better! Win8: Not changed enough to scare you! Win8: Still runs office! 
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Jul 15, 2014 18:04
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univbee posted:for both this and the xbox drm fiasco they only backtracked when people were demonstrably not buying/pre-ordering it. microsoft gives no fucks about customer satisfaction until it impacts their bottom line right, but you'd think someone at MS could correlate "this much beta tester pushback" to "this much lost sales" especially after vista
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Fabricated posted:Win8: Slightly better! those are all pretty good reasons to buy this hypothetical windows 8
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Jul 15, 2014 18:11
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Fabricated posted:which is literally all anyone really wanted but how do you market THAT with half a billion dollars? you can make shitloads of money without ever being cool or exciting but marketers gotta market so if you hire literally tens of thousands of them this is going to happen
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Jul 15, 2014 18:16
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the problem is that they know some ideas are absolutely good, but they tie it in with some other hosed up poo poo to ruin it. Windows Store: good idea. Tying the windows store to windows 8 and the ui everyone hates: bad idea. Account Based Steam style DRM for xbox: good idea. Releasing only the negative information about your DRM at your launch event: bad idea. Using xbox to own the living room: good idea. Trying to own the living room by making xbox gamerz only: bad idea. Making the xbox a pc: good idea. Making the xbox a pc and then breaking certain parts to make it a hosed up, lovely, and more expensive pc: bad idea. Making a laptop that doesn't suck: good idea. Making a laptop/tablet hybrid: bad idea. and on and on and on
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So in 25 years user interfaces have progressed from flat, rounded, pseudo-3d, and back to flat again. can't wait for rounded again
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Fabricated posted:I think regardless of user feedback they felt pot committed to the Start Screen/Metro look and any negative feedback would only be used to "adjust" it; no amount of criticism from beta users was going to get them to scrap it because it was the only major "vision" they seemed to have for win8. Windows8: faster and comes on your new pc. its also cheaper because we didn't waste any money on marketing
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qirex posted:I think the win 95 launch broke their brains and they've been trying to recapture that ever since even though most of their customers don't want a reinvented computer experience every 3-5 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPv8PPl7ANU
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Luigi Thirty posted:So in 25 years user interfaces have progressed from flat, rounded, pseudo-3d, and back to flat again. can't wait for rounded again
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Jul 15, 2014 18:22
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windows 8 is so ugly everything is rectangles. not a shadow to be seen. save us with your RoundedRects timb
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Jul 15, 2014 18:23
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homo punching bag posted:didnt think
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Jul 15, 2014 18:23
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flat design is more difficult to do well because you can't depend on the contextual cues that you used to and laffo if you think microsoft can ever make it not terrible, apple's been struggling with the same problem for 2 years now
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Fabricated posted:Drop shadows will triumphantly return some day os x already has that
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Jul 15, 2014 18:24
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flat, low contrast UI design is loving terrible and gently caress anyone who thinks otherwise
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Jul 15, 2014 18:44
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qirex posted:metro tiles are a bad idea that they're going to cling to all the way down meh, in practice they actually work pretty well in terms of at a glance info and ease of access to commonly used apps/tasks. it's customizable enough to be useful (size and location, with detail based on widget size) without being android levels of loving retarded it's not mindblowing or anything but it's the best widget implementation i've used
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thing is metro can almost work. minus metro apps, or have desktop/metro as one with a button to switch? or if the metro apps weren't insultingly feature-sparse.
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