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marktheando posted:I only read a little bit of the first script. People are just joking about this being a thing, right? ...Right? I'm so sorry to have to break it to you like this.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 16:43 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:09 |
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Clara is really the Doctor's mother.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 16:46 |
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marktheando posted:The Rani is a genius. We know this because the Doctor and the Master keep telling us this, and because she made a land mine that turns you into a tree. A Bran Stark tree or a metaphorical tree?
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 16:48 |
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An actual tree. That gropes people.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:10 |
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The Rani is what the Master would be like if she cared about loving with the universe more and about loving with the Doctor less. She fucks with him incidentally the first time, and then only because she needs him for her diabolical scheme the second. Unlike the Master, who's just in it for shits and giggles. She's awesome. Unfortunately, the episodes she's in suck. So much wasted potential.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:15 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:You know, like the Pond/River thing. My proudest achievement.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:30 |
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I'm basing the Missy/Rani theory on a few things, the first being that before her death Kate O'Mara really wanted the Rani back and suddenly there's a character whose actress looks shockingly like Kate. Seriously, you have to really hunt for an actress with eyes like that, so why did they? Second off the Doctor seems to be going old school lately and Moffatt's been mentioning a bunch of old Who poo poo so a baddie from the 80's fits perfectly. Lastly, the Rani was a big haired leather clad man manipulating alpha woman so of course Moffatt's going to humble her by making her obsessively hot for the Doctor.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:30 |
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Or, it's a brand new, terribly written, Steven "I don't get women" Moffat character.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:43 |
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I haven't read the scripts or watched the workprint but the "paradise" thing - dead characters showing up in "paradise" with her - it sounds a LOT like the supercomputer in the library where river was stuck, downloading people to "save" them. perhaps river's save file was corrupted or something
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:47 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Or, it's a brand new, terribly written, Steven "I don't get women" Moffat character. Steven Moffat gets women quote:"Between the marriages, I shagged my way round television studios like a mechanical digger"
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:48 |
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Yeah, right, between.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:50 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Steven Moffat gets women I would have happily gone my entire life not hearing that.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:52 |
Rita Repulsa posted:I haven't read the scripts or watched the workprint but the "paradise" thing - dead characters showing up in "paradise" with her - it sounds a LOT like the supercomputer in the library where river was stuck, downloading people to "save" them. And we know that they are returning to the location of a past adventure where something has gone horribly wrong in an episode called Kill the Moon. Doctor Moon? Maybe.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:55 |
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And it's an opportunity for Moffat to needlessly ruin/update an older catchphrase-heavy foe. my god, we've cracked the case
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:57 |
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So am I the only person who thinks Missy might be the Master? Missy/Mistress? No? I can't decide if that'd be a master troll from the Master, or just terrible.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 17:59 |
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To be quite honest with you I'm mostly hoping it's the Rani just so it's not loving River again. I really liked River, really enjoyed her relationship with the Doctor, but making her "The Most Important Person Ever" is beyond tired. She didn't constantly support the Doctor using only her wits and being a good hearted person like Donna, didn't spend years of her life running background support for no credit like Martha, didn't sacrifice her own life like Rose tried to, or get herself Daleked in a retroactive save mission like Clara has. Any one of those chicks did more during their runs than River ever could but she's "The Baby Who Waited" or someshit. Don't even get me loving started on how absolutely unhelpful Amy was either. They both existed simply to intrigue the Doctor with their flirting and strategic use of catchphrases.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:05 |
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Stairs posted:"The Most Important Person Ever" ...until Clara came along, apparently.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:10 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:...until Clara came along, apparently. Or the Girl Who Waited.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:15 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:...until Clara came along, apparently. At least Clara has shed that aspect of herself. At first, yeah, she was just a vessel for saving the Doctor but now she's a teacher that has her own life and apparently a love interest and has a personality outside of "Hello Sweetie." It's like the old Mr. Plinkett test of Character: can you name three things about a character that have nothing to do with anything but their personality? River shows up only to be "sexy" for an episode and apologize a lot and shoot things.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:16 |
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What bugged me most about River was that she never seemed to have had any interaction with any Doctor other than 11. I mean I get why-- don't confuse the newbies and basic linear time makes it impossible to film adventures with other Doctors--but for someone who time-traveled all the time it's the height of incredulity that it wasn't until her "death" that she finally met a version of the Doctor who had no idea who she was.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:19 |
I don't understand for poo poo why she ended up in prison for killing the Doctor or why she loving accepted that poo poo from him. How did people even know it was her? Why did The Silence make it her? How was she in prison for it if it was against her will?
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:23 |
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PriorMarcus posted:I don't understand for poo poo why she ended up in prison for killing the Doctor or why she loving accepted that poo poo from him. Because "Tick Tock Goes The Clock" as the old song nobody has ever heard of before goes. Because that's not some random bullshit.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 18:38 |
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PriorMarcus posted:I loving hate this so much. I dunno, its nice to see that the Doctor does stuff that we don't see on screen. I hate the feeling that every moment of a given Doctor's incarnation is documented on-screen. Big Finish fleshes out Doctors 4 through 8, but it can really feel like the 13 episodes of Season 1 is the entirety of 9's adventures (Don't get me started the little gap before "Oh and did I mention it also travels in time?" bit).
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 20:43 |
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The issue I think is that it's leaned on too often as an excuse for the Doctor being friendly with someone the audience has never seen before.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 20:47 |
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It's nice to have the Doctor have some off screen stuff mentioned. It makes the universe feel larger. It's not nice to have the off screen stuff intrude too much on screen. It makes the universe feel smaller. Compare Pertwee making references to other adventures and Tennant doing it - in the latter case it's almost always a bored "Oh I've seen this before, yawn" kind of situation.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 20:52 |
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PriorMarcus posted:And we know that they are returning to the location of a past adventure where something has gone horribly wrong in an episode called Kill the Moon. I'm still hoping for a Majora's Mask crossover.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 21:08 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's nice to have the Doctor have some off screen stuff mentioned. It makes the universe feel larger. Heck, the entire premise of "The Face of Evil" revolved around the aftermath of one of the Doctor's off-screen adventures.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 21:14 |
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Missy will be the Terrible Zodin.
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 21:22 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Heck, the entire premise of "The Face of Evil" revolved around the aftermath of one of the Doctor's off-screen adventures. Also Timelash!
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# ? Jul 15, 2014 21:24 |
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:So am I the only person who thinks Missy might be the Master? Missy/Mistress? No? After "Mels", yes this is probably going to be it.
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 02:40 |
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Wheezle posted:After "Mels", yes this is probably going to be it. You're not suggesting, "Mel(anie)" is returning? Moffat would have watched 80's Who, after all. Trammel fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jul 16, 2014 |
# ? Jul 16, 2014 13:07 |
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If we are going for fake titles for the thread, the Let's Kill Hitler one was great because it was true AMD it was so ridiculous. In that vein: Doctor Who Spoilers: Let's Kill Ghagis Khan! Doctor Who Spoilers: Let's Save JFK! Doctor Who Spoilers: Fighting fiction with cutlery
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 13:26 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:Doctor Who Spoilers: Let's Save JFK! I honestly would kind of like to see Who Killed Kennedy condensed and adapted as a "Doctor-lite" type of episode.
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 13:48 |
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Chairman Capone posted:I honestly would kind of like to see Who Killed Kennedy condensed and adapted as a "Doctor-lite" type of episode. They already did, it was called "Tikka to Ride".
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 13:51 |
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It's gotta be something from the actual episodes that's so incredibly stupid the other thread just writes it off until the episode airs. Doctor Who SPOILERS: "Welcome to Heaven. The Doctor is my boyfriend."
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 15:40 |
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I repeat:Bown posted:Doctor Who SPOILERS: Clara meets the Doctor as a child and turns him brave
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 15:50 |
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wrong thread
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 16:05 |
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Doctor Who SPOILERS: Wearing a Hobo Face As a Mask
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 17:15 |
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It should be something about the big bad being a Tumblerette. Because that's the weirdest, yet most galling spoiler.
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# ? Jul 17, 2014 04:10 |
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Republican Vampire posted:It should be something about the big bad being a Tumblerette. Because that's the weirdest, yet most galling spoiler. See: Big Mean Jerk posted:Doctor Who SPOILERS: "Welcome to Heaven. The Doctor is my boyfriend." I wish the mods would rotate all of these ideas because they're all so wonderfully, horribly true and the spoiler-free thread really would never believe them.
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