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Can I start a kickstarter for an MRA convention and just walk away with all that sweet neckbeard money without any consequence? All rewards will just be me sending out business cards with the word "NO" in comic sans.
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Spanish Manlove posted:on a scale from unethical to jail time how illegal is that poo poo because wtf Somewhere between unethical and comical, depending on exactly what you put up on Kickstarter. If you make an obviously fake campaign and it goes through, or if you fail to deliver thousands of potato salad based haikus, I'm not too offended. The way it's set up is pretty clear: you are making a donation for a project that hopefully goes through; if it doesn't make it despite getting all funding, the creator isn't responsible to pay you back - because you're not paying for goods and services. You're making a donation.
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Spanish Manlove posted:on a scale from unethical to jail time how illegal is that poo poo because wtf When you straight up say "hey I got a poo poo life give me money: that's not illegal at all. If you try to cloak it in some sort of product you fail to deliver you can get sued tho. FlyinPingu posted:Can I start a kickstarter for an MRA convention and just walk away with all that sweet neckbeard money without any consequence? Start MRA convention, ensure your buddy books the hotel for an event called the FriendZone, act like nothing changed.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:49
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Jul 15, 2014 03:53
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Spanish Manlove posted:on a scale from unethical to jail time how illegal is that poo poo because wtf Pretty sure committing fraud is still just as illegal if you're using Kickstarter or a similar platform. The only case I can recall of someone being sued was a guy who wasn't smart enough to incorporate and do the KS and everything else through that entity. Had they done so I imagine they'd have been just as immune as anyone else when their thing failed and the money ran out. Nothing stops you from taking the money, making an attempt, and failing though.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:54
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It's okay, I'm sure your faith in your fellow man can be restored with a "hardcore survival" game that's thrown together in CryEngine, or a thought-provoking game with default RPG Maker assets and a $20 goal.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:30
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At first I was going to point out that those are mostly default cryengine assets but then I saw that the £25,000 stretch goal is literally "give the devs an island vacation."
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Jul 15, 2014 04:39
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Whenever the world of Kickstarters just seems forever unsalvagable, I remember that The Reading Rainbow kickstarter was wildly successful, so that kind of makes up for it.
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Vietnamwees posted:Whenever the world of Kickstarters just seems forever unsalvagable, I remember that The Reading Rainbow kickstarter was wildly successful, so that kind of makes up for it. Don't Hug Me I'm Scared also got funded as it rightfully deserved
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Germstore posted:It's Not Potato Salad: A XXX Porn Kickstarter Parody Tossed Potato Salad kickstarter
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Jul 15, 2014 10:36
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This burnt out lovely old wrestler from Scotland needs a PS4 to help him recover and get back in the game. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/i-need-a-ps4--2#home
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Jul 15, 2014 13:10
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Nintendo Kid posted:It is rampant with it haven't you read the thread. I'd post stuff from gofundme but it gets depressing really fast
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Jul 15, 2014 13:23
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Anoia posted:I'd post stuff from gofundme but it gets depressing really fast The best gofundme was the one where a family lied about getting kicked out of a KFC and even after the hoax was exposed and their gofundme was shut down and they still got $30,000 from KFC and free surgery because it hit the national news and people are gullible as poo poo
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I always look at Risk and Challenges and shake my head because those loving people have no idea what that sections means, nor how to present their product in the first place.
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Michaellaneous posted:I always look at Risk and Challenges and shake my head because those loving people have no idea what that sections means, nor how to present their product in the first place. I liked the one where they had meteor strikes and unforeseen insanity under there.
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Morglon posted:I liked the one where they had meteor strikes and unforeseen insanity under there. Was that the one where they drew up a spreadsheet of dozens of possible risks and rated their chances of happening and stated how badly each would affect the project? That was awesome. Edit: yeah here we go feedmyleg posted:
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Evil Fluffy posted:Pretty sure committing fraud is still just as illegal if you're using Kickstarter or a similar platform. The only case I can recall of someone being sued was a guy who wasn't smart enough to incorporate and do the KS and everything else through that entity. Had they done so I imagine they'd have been just as immune as anyone else when their thing failed and the money ran out. Um, no: http://www.inc.com/eric-markowitz/when-kickstarter-investors-want-their-money-back.html, http://finance.yahoo.com/news/washington-sues-ed-nash-kickstarter-campaign-173707149.html . Taking money, making attempt and failing is still sueable. On the other hand I don't know how to treat people who fund the projects of mission to mars or potato salad. And finally, I'm at loss for words... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/joyboxx-the-world-s-only-hygienic-lockable-adult-toy-storage-system, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/padbot-a-telepresence-robot-cool-fun-affordable-buddy-for-ipad-android-pad canis minor has a new favorite as of 20:07 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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eithedog posted:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/padbot-a-telepresence-robot-cool-fun-affordable-buddy-for-ipad-android-pad IPad robot rolling up to a sleeping woman like it's not the creepiest thing ever.
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eithedog posted:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/padbot-a-telepresence-robot-cool-fun-affordable-buddy-for-ipad-android-pad Now you don't even have to be around someone to physically interact with them. Fantastic.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:The best gofundme was the one where a family lied about getting kicked out of a KFC and even after the hoax was exposed and their gofundme was shut down and they still got $30,000 from KFC and free surgery because it hit the national news and people are gullible as poo poo I think someone at KFC felt bad for the child who had such horrible family (the dogs who injured her face in the first place were her grandfather's).
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We've reached the point where $30 million dollar Hollywood films based on best-selling novels are now using crowdfunding to suck more money out of people even after they've gotten their funding.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:We've reached the point where $30 million dollar Hollywood films based on best-selling novels are now using crowdfunding to suck more money out of people even after they've gotten their funding. It didn't even make back half its budget. I'm curious to see how much money any studio would actually give them.
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Vampire Academy is literally the most generically Young Adult thing I've ever seen. "What if Twilight were Harry Potter?!" Yet the movie came out too late to take advantage of either of those zeitgeists.
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Jul 15, 2014 22:25
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Wasn't Vampire Academy that fake book that they wrote on the Simpsons?
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From the Kickstarter Gaming thread, apparently the Yogscast game ("Yogventures!") project has failed. In a way, this was somewhat inevitable; Yogscast is basically a pair of "we're funny because we're incompetent and ham it up when we fail" LPers on Youtube. So, you can't be too surprised that their game bombed as well. However, it actually ended up being incompetence-once-removed; Yogscast outsourced the production of their videogame to a third-party developer, and that dev ended up being a six-man studio, with half of the team working day jobs to keep themselves fed. Of course, a six-man part-time team wasn't exactly ready to crank out a voxel-landscape Minecraft clone with a full quest system and scripting/API system. They imploded almost exactly on the two year mark, after producing a few beta builds. The dev company is shutting down (and will likely file for bankruptcy); Yogscast has been given all art assets and code produced so far. Apparently, their solution has to been to hook up with another Kickstarter, a horrible MMORPG attempt called TUG, and port over some of the Yogventures ideas/content into the TUG engine. All backers are being given TUG Steam keys as a consolation gift.
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It's shocking considering that the design was basically, "Minecraft, but with whatever you, yes, you don't like about Minecraft."
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Germstore posted:It's shocking considering that the design was basically, "Minecraft, but with whatever you, yes, you don't like about Minecraft." It was literally billing itself as "the game you always wanted." Not even Star Citizen was that brazen. That said: If you look at the Minecraft community today, it's basically become: Use miles of spaghetti redstone wiring and commandblocks and scripting and server plugins to convert a survival game into RPG Maker. Apparently, the early betas of Yog that came out were basically a Minecraft analogue with smaller voxel-based worlds, heavy scriptability, and a pile of preformed buildings/content to drop into it -- and that could sell, as much as I hate to admit it. It's definitely not going to be finished by a six-man team of part-timers, though.
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eithedog posted:Um, no: http://www.inc.com/eric-markowitz/when-kickstarter-investors-want-their-money-back.html, http://finance.yahoo.com/news/washington-sues-ed-nash-kickstarter-campaign-173707149.html . Taking money, making attempt and failing is still sueable. That's the case I was referring to. He did everything directly therefore he was personally responsible. Had everything been done via an LLC with him just acting as an employee he may have been able to walk away by having the company go bankrupt. From the article: quote:Because he never incorporated Hanfree, Quest was personally liable for the refunds. But the money from the backers was gone, spent on engineers and contract manufacturers. The lawsuit forced him into bankruptcy. From there, things only got worse. Had they setup things properly, and the company simply went bankrupt, the there wouldn't have been much of anything to sue. The guy behind the kickstarter wouldn't have been forced in to bankruptcy though because they themselves wouldn't have been liable.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:We've reached the point where $30 million dollar Hollywood films based on best-selling novels are now using crowdfunding to suck more money out of people even after they've gotten their funding. Based on the Current Releases review, the Vampire Academy movie is basically a more contemporary Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It's kind of a shame it didn't do so well since it was from the people who made Heathers and Mean Girls, and the review also said that the movie was watchable just for how positive it was about things. Germstore posted:It's shocking considering that the design was basically, "Minecraft, but with whatever you, yes, you don't like about Minecraft." I think Minecraft even got updated with a lot more features and tweaks during the Yogcast game Kickstarter.
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The MSJ posted:Based on the Current Releases review, the Vampire Academy movie is basically a more contemporary Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It's kind of a shame it didn't do so well since it was from the people who made Heathers and Mean Girls, and the review also said that the movie was watchable just for how positive it was about things. It also had an amazing soundtrack. Seriously, go pick that up. Support good soundtracks.
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ullerrm posted:It was literally billing itself as "the game you always wanted." Not even Star Citizen was that brazen. That's kinda what Everquest Next Landmark is doing (for millions of dollars) Yeah a six-man team needs to be really careful making a proper 3D game even if they keep the design simple. With poo poo like "open world multiplayer" you're hosed, unless its just one big walking chatroom. DoctorTristan posted:Hahahahahaha Yeah I thought it odd that Kickstarter would shine a light on themselves like that. I think there's a whole documentary, trying to legitimize a bunch of loving wallet kickstarters.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah I thought it odd that Kickstarter would shine a light on themselves like that. I think there's a whole documentary, trying to legitimize a bunch of loving wallet kickstarters. Can't post it because I'm on my phone, but Kickstarter put together a compilation of people doing the "oh hi I didn't see you there!" openings for their pitch videos to poke fun at how played-out it is.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Can't post it because I'm on my phone, but Kickstarter put together a compilation of people doing the "oh hi I didn't see you there!" openings for their pitch videos to poke fun at how played-out it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iQC0Fqpq70 Okay there are some funny ones in there. "Oh I didn't feel you there" isn't one of them, though 
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DoctorTristan posted:Hahahahahaha I tried to read this, mining for comedy gold, but I couldn't make it. It is literally a full sized magazine style article about wallet designers and why they design wallets. I voluntarily read academic papers on rocks and I could not read it. Actual content: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/868942652/jumping-into-a-hamper-of-food That rear end in a top hat from the 'crazy jack movie' is going for kickstarter gold again by jumping in a laundry hamper of food. For $25 he will let you watch him fill it up. (Not live) and for $1000 he will put your name on the safety helmet he apparently needs for this stunt. What a deal! Also representing Rhode Island: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1427071213/paranormal-investigations-in-new-england Give us $3000 to become paranormal investigators. They have 'amazing' photos of 'orbs' which prove they Don't get the impression we aren't generous though, we gave $2,492 to fund a 'Missy Elliott for president' tracksuit. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sakura/missy-for-prez Holaaaaaaa
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Spanish Manlove posted:can anyone explain to me how crowdfunding or kickstarter or indiegogo or whatever isn't rampant with abuse and fraud?
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