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bobkatt013 posted:I would say its Hopeless since Bunn already has 3 big 2 books plus his image work. He said at Heroes Con he's got something coming for Marvel in November. Coincidentally November is when Spider-Verse starts.
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Suben posted:If you want to believe Rich Johnston, get ready for a Spider-Woman book by either Dennis Hopeless or Cullen Bunn (most likely Hopeless) and Greg Land. It's like they want it to fail miserably!
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Jul 7, 2014 21:28
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Yvonmukluk posted:It's like they want it to fail miserably! What? Despite what we all think about Greg Land, people still buy his books. Collen Bunn isn't bad and there are people who actually like Hopeless.
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Jul 7, 2014 21:32
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Senor Candle posted:What? Despite what we all think about Greg Land, people still buy his books. Collen Bunn isn't bad and there are people who actually like Hopeless. I think you're being extremely optimistic about how well this Spider-Woman book is going to sell.
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Hakkesshu posted:I think you're being extremely optimistic about how well this Spider-Woman book is going to sell. I'm just saying putting Greg Land on a book isn't the mark of death you guys seem to think it is, as much as it should be.
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Jul 7, 2014 21:37
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Land's last output was a lot better than what he had been doing. So maybe he's giving up the obvious tracing!
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Jul 7, 2014 23:29
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Codependent Poster posted:Land's last output was a lot better than what he had been doing. So maybe he's giving up the obvious tracing! Not really. He had one decent issue but the rest of it is the same tracing garbage.
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Jul 7, 2014 23:40
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I bet it's gonna end up being the Gwen Stacy Spider-woman.
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Senor Candle posted:Not really. He had one decent issue but the rest of it is the same tracing garbage. That's the worst thing about Land, to me. He can draw his own pictures, and have them not look like porn, he just chooses not to.
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Jul 8, 2014 01:35
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It's not just that he's lazy, his work's downright insulting! Glenn Fabry published a sketchbook years ago that showed he used bodybuilders and gymnasts as his anatomy references for, you know, superheroines. Using porn for people capable of incredible physical feats is like you're just straight-up saying "this is the only context in which I ever see women's bodies." Ugh.
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As long as it's Cable & X-Force Hopeless and not Avengers Arena Hopeless, I'd be down for checking out an issue or two of his Spider-Woman.
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Jul 8, 2014 05:23
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The worst thing is that Land being on it will probably mean it'll last longer than Agent of S.W.O.R.D. did.  (Well, maybe...Bendis is probably a bigger draw than Land is).
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Jul 8, 2014 10:09
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Senor Candle posted:I'm just saying putting Greg Land on a book isn't the mark of death you guys seem to think it is, as much as it should be. Land isn't a death mark (though it should be) but a female solo title for a D list character spinning off from a mini event with a lackluster creative team is. There's a reason Hopeless and Bunn constantly get their books cancelled (cos they are neither good nor can get a following).
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I want to see a Hopeless/Land collab just because of how absolutely terrible it would be in all aspects.
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Waterhaul posted:Land isn't a death mark (though it should be) but a female solo title for a D list character spinning off from a mini event with a lackluster creative team is. There's a reason Hopeless and Bunn constantly get their books cancelled (cos they are neither good nor can get a following). Bunn was on Venom when it got cancelled right? I thought he had a pretty long run after Remender left. I remember Bunn most from all those Deadpool miniseries and those seemed to do all right. Hopeless moved straight from AA to AU so I don't really see that as a cancellation. What are all the books you're talking about? (I'm not trying to prove you wrong I'm just not familiar with their work outside of what I listed.)
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Jul 8, 2014 14:11
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Venom ran a bit after Bunn took over and certainly wasn't a short run. But Venom or anything Spider related is going to have a built in fan base that'll keep it running for a while. His Magneto series is really good. He isn't a horrible writer by any means but for the most part, his work is usually sub par or average.
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Bunn is exceptional when it comes to creator owned, look at Helheim and Sixth Gun. Just stay away from him in big 2 stuff. He's incredibly inconsistent with the only exceptional thing he's done there is Magneto.
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Senor Candle posted:What? Despite what we all think about Greg Land, people still buy his books. Collen Bunn isn't bad and there are people who actually like Hopeless.  Rhyno posted:I bet it's gonna end up being the Gwen Stacy Spider-woman. Senor Candle posted:Bunn was on Venom when it got cancelled right? I thought he had a pretty long run after Remender left. I remember Bunn most from all those Deadpool miniseries and those seemed to do all right. Hopeless moved straight from AA to AU so I don't really see that as a cancellation. What are all the books you're talking about? (I'm not trying to prove you wrong I'm just not familiar with their work outside of what I listed.) Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:I want their names. Cable and X-Force was legit good.  I can't defend Avengers Hunger Games though.
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Spider-Man 100th Anniversary had great art, and it was okay for a one-shot, but it doesn't feel like it blew me away. It was good but not Amazing, but still worth a read if you can. I'm not giving Slott any money so I didn't read Spider-Man 2099
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Flameingblack posted:Spider-Man 100th Anniversary had great art, and it was okay for a one-shot, but it doesn't feel like it blew me away. It was good but not Amazing, but still worth a read if you can. How is a Peter David written book giving money to Slott?
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bobkatt013 posted:How is a peter David written book giving money to Slott?  I just assumed, looks like I'll buy it after-all.
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I liked Spider-Man 2099 #1 well enough. Peter David certainly loves using characters from 2211. Not really sure what the point of this series is yet, though. I miss the 2099 setting and hope it ends up going back there eventually, because the stuff about preventing his grandfather from dying and trying to make him a better person doesn't seem like it could go on that long and stay interesting. The end of the issue hints that something important will happen in this timeline because of O'Hara though, so I trust there's a plan in place. Just good to see David returning to the character.
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Spider-Man 2099 was surprisingly nice though I'm not a fan of Liz Allan: Evil CEO and Sliney is my least favorite regular Marvel artist that's not Land. Superior Foes was great albeit not the funniest issue in the series. Silvermane and Shocker play off of each other so well though that I don't care.
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Spider-man 2099 was so nice  I was thinking the art wasn't too bad, but then that future guy burst from the wall and I couldn't believe how bad Miguel being knocked away looked.
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Suben posted:Spider-Man 2099 was surprisingly nice though I'm not a fan of Liz Allan: Evil CEO and Sliney is my least favorite regular Marvel artist that's not Land. Beetle's line about her life not passing the Bechdel test was great, but otherwise, yeah, kind of a plot-heavy, joke-light issue. It'll be nice to have the Shocker stuff dovetail with the rest of the characters again next month. As with Hawkeye, I feel like delays and fill-ins have made the last couple of issues feel a bit more disjointed and jumpy than they otherwise would.
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I don't read a lot of Spider-Man, what lead in to Spider-Man 2099 #1? He references a mugging and getting a job at Alchemax.
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Superior Spider-Man 17-19. Miguel appears in other issues after that but that's the story that sets up his status quo for the solo series.
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coconono posted:I don't read a lot of Spider-Man, what lead in to Spider-Man 2099 #1? He references a mugging and getting a job at Alchemax. He got the Alchemax job in SSM, the mugging is from I think one of the ASM #1 back ups.
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Finally caught up with Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man...still not sure if I like where they're going with this Peter Parker thing but I think he's still dead. At least I hope.
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Honestly I really hated 2099. Maybe because I was actually hoping it was going to be set in 2099, I read nothing before hand. More than anything, the future killer just randomly murdering civilians because they had no kids was really loving stupid. I can handle comic booky craziness and stuff, but you can't have a dude whose whole mission is to kill someone to preserve the timeline and just have him randomly murdering people. Gotta imagine that would gently caress up the future pretty hard even if they didn't have kids.
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So, Spider-Girl's showing up in ASM 8. If I don't read it, she'll be alright, right? 
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Slott's track record says she's hosed.
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Lurdiak posted:Slott's track record says she's hosed. I think this sums up my response adequately:  Seriously my first comics were 2 digests of Spider-Girl. Dammit, Slott.
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Slott's track record is really more like she'll die but come back as evil or something.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Slott's track record is really more like she'll die but come back as evil or something. Now we know how SpOck is coming back.
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Well it was Joe Kelly that killed off Mattie Franklin but please no Slott don't kill MayDay Parker, anybody but her. J2 won't be able to go on.
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Marla Jameson, Dr. Ashley Kafka, he was on the creative team when Mattie bit it. She's hosed.
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Guys it could be worse, Slott could be writing her for an extended period of time. Isn't death preferable?
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