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mod sassinator posted:that sucks but take it as an opportunity to find something better. since the whole team was shut down it really shouldn't detract at all from your work history. go out and have some beers tonight, then start getting resumes out. i bet by the time severance ends you'll have some good leads. good luck
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Pinterest Mom posted:Hello there,
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FMguru posted:yeah. it's cold comfort, but there are worse tech job markets to be suddenly dumped into (although 18000 people hitting it at once toughens it more than a little bit) yeah but 12,000 or so are in finland, and even way less down in san diego
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mod sassinator posted:yeah but 12,000 or so are in finland, and even way less down in san diego i was sad to learn they were on the euro because i would have loved to see the market reaction to their currency once the news came down that msft was basically stripping their national champion down for parts
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FMguru posted:lmao finland at this point, i wonder if they would arrest elop should he ever step foot in their country again
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If you're in seattle and are a dev or designer and have any sort of people skills, reply and I will figure out a way to contact you about future employment possibilities.
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mod sassinator posted:at this point, i wonder hahahahaha, yeah same, OP.
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z0rlandi viSSer posted:hahahahaha, yeah same, OP. your capacity for wonder was burned out of you a long time ago, z0r probably by the booze
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Microsoft is the company that, right after launching the XBox 1 (the other one) in Japan, they immediately laid off people; not realizing what a cultural taboo that is in Japan and set themselves up for failure for every subsequent launch in Japan after that this company does not even engage in the most basic of research before making major, major decisions. I get legit depressed any time I hear of firings but from what I have read about Microsoft in all my business classes, you can only better yourself by working somewhere else. And this is coming from someone who actually does not dislike Microsoft. one of my professors used them as a case study for "toxic work environment" and this was like 3 years ago
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Microsoft is the company that, right after launching the XBox 1 (the other one) in Japan, they immediately laid off people; not realizing what a cultural taboo that is in Japan and set themselves up for failure for every subsequent launch in Japan after that can't read this without hearing "square just shot themselves in the foot"
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Miley Virus posted:can't read this without hearing "square just shot themselves in the foot" i just googled this and it's funny in the enraged gamer way but not what i meant. the japanese public aren't very receptive to american companies and Microsoft didn't bother to think "lets wait a few weeks after the xbox 1 launch before firing a bunch of Japanese people since people here are already iffy about us" i don't think any Japanese businessmen or the general public gave a poo poo that yet another trash FF game is cross platform lol Microsoft didn't bother to do undergrad level of research when trying to win over a country
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:i just googled this and it's funny in the enraged gamer way but not what i meant. the japanese public aren't very receptive to american companies and Microsoft didn't bother to think "lets wait a few weeks after the xbox 1 launch before firing a bunch of Japanese people since people here are already iffy about us" i get what you mean, japan's pretty much a place of working at the same company until you retire right? hell just in general that's an incredibly disrespectful practice
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Miley Virus posted:i get what you mean, japan's pretty much a place of working at the same company until you retire right? yeah, in America you're seen as a pain in the rear end for staying with the same company for too long 
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infernal machines posted:yeah, the problem with recommending a stack like that is even with proper documentation forget about ever being able to get someone else to admin your special snowflake implementation. it's a perfect model for a million cornercases based on what build of everything you managed to deploy initially. and who handles support? that's like four different "vendors" at least. it's all one vendor. red hat DS. red hat IAM. red hat OS. it's all insanely easy and smooth going until you want to configure other things for it. red hat will happily support you using rhds and rh iam for stuff that isn't red hat, but they can't compel 3rd parties to ship their magic auto-configuring agents. microsoft is similar. AD works great as long as you're in a 100% microsoft shop. the difference: when you start doing anything non-microsoft with your AD implementation, there is always the risk microsoft will tell you to gently caress off. (i have had ms support explicitly tell me not to use AD as an LDAP server)
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:i just googled this and it's funny in the enraged gamer way but not what i meant. the japanese public aren't very receptive to american companies and Microsoft didn't bother to think "lets wait a few weeks after the xbox 1 launch before firing a bunch of Japanese people since people here are already iffy about us" this is a bad post but a great username/post combo
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this is a bad post but a great username/post combo 
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G-III posted:Jesus Christ, Stephen Elop is a motherfucker. lol if you think he was the only one involved in writing that
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duTrieux. posted:lol if you think he was the only one involved in writing that its committee-driven execuspeak, but he signed his name to it and he also was the fifth column in nokia that orchestrated the acquisition by microsoft why on earth did they bring all these employees in to microsoft during the acquisition only to fire them, it's nuts
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because thats what happens in acquisitions
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kwinkles posted:why on earth did they bring all these employees in to microsoft during the acquisition only to fire them, it's nuts i'm pretty sure microsoft didn't buy nokia in order to get access to their hungarian manufacturing plants when you buy a company, there are some bits you want and some bits you don't want.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:yeah, in America you're seen as a pain in the rear end for staying with the same company for too long only at companies that believe in "up or out" a few great companies believe that if you're really good at what you do, and they need what you do, and you're happy doing it, why not just keep paying you to do it?
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eschaton posted:a few great companies believe that if you're really good at what you do, and they need what you do, and you're happy doing it, why not just keep paying you to do it? as long as they never have to give you a raise
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pram posted:because thats what happens in acquisitions sometimes the acquired employees keep their jobs and the acquiring company lays people off instead i.e. my life right now lol
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Sniep posted:it's a delineation between 'client machines' in purpose, and user desktops. if the users actually have real need for an actual desktop, then they should get one, and forcing a client machine on them doesnt make sense. if it's a rote job that is simply to interact with x, be it internet access or just getting to an old AS/400, , 'thin clients' or full client machines are desirable. yep +1 to have the person driving this to know the distinction (god loving drat it citrix make usb forwarding more robust thru xenapp you idiots)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:as long as they never have to give you a raise you might be surprised
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eschaton posted:you might be surprised if you're surprised by a large raise it means you were being cheated so heinously they feared your imminent departure when you found out
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mod sassinator posted:the pizza in microsoft's cafeteria's was poo poo, trust me they didn't even care enough about their people to have wood-fired pizza ovens?
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Scott Forstall posted:in an alternate universe, Nokia said "gently caress it, we're going Android" with the Lumia as the hardware and are currently one of the top Android OEMs. http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/17/5911909/microsoft-kills-off-its-nokia-android-phones Microsoft is planning to scrap its Nokia X Android efforts and replace them with Windows Phone in the future. The news comes as part of today's announcement that Microsoft is cutting 18,000 jobs in the next year. In an email to former Nokia staff, Microsoft devices chief Stephen Elop details the company's renewed focus on Windows Phone. "In addition to the portfolio already planned, we plan to deliver additional lower-cost Lumia devices by shifting select future Nokia X designs and products to Windows Phone devices," says Elop. "We expect to make this shift immediately while continuing to sell and support existing Nokia X products."
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