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qirex posted:the official MS plan seems to be that the dev leads and PMs will write test scripts/requirements and do the testing themselves this is also what is being done where i work. i think they really want to be like the people you read blog articles about
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prefect posted:this is also what is being done where i work. i think they really want to be like the people you read blog articles about yeah but when you have like 800 million customers that don't work so good our QA/test gets a lot of poo poo here and they're kind of a pain to work with but we literally cannot ship broken stuff and they're good at finding it as inefficient as they are
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qirex posted:yeah but when you have like 800 million customers that don't work so good i doubt that's going to ever be a problem at my company 
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Phobeste posted:also holy poo poo why would you fire a shitton of testers. people who actually are good at and enjoy testing are pretty hard to come by. 
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qirex posted:the official MS plan seems to be that the dev leads and PMs will write test scripts/requirements and do the testing themselves ohhhh my godddddd lolololololololol
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on of our better testers is a dev that cares entirely too much
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microsoft still doesn't have a device in the iPad category because the Surface has desktop windows. it seemed stupid to include it, but then again a metro-only surface would sell exactly zero because the platform had so little support. but if they had made a metro-only RT, the platform would be 2 years more mature today (plus whatever they ported over from Windows Phone). so i wonder how bad they regret that now. just noticed that satya did not mention internet explorer in his missive. he named dropped and defended just about every other product.
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PleasureKevin posted:microsoft still doesn't have a device in the iPad category because the Surface has desktop windows. it seemed stupid to include it, but then again a metro-only surface would sell exactly zero because the platform had so little support. but if they had made a metro-only RT, the platform would be 2 years more mature today (plus whatever they ported over from Windows Phone). so i wonder how bad they regret that now. but it needs office, so you can do Real Work. click in, do more
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qirex posted:yeah but when you have like 800 million customers that don't work so good satya is right on this one if you look at the past 5 years ms products have been pretty stable (way less blue screens than before etc) whereas the premise and execution of the ideas behind them has been total poo poo so you need every last precious pm and management layer but you can fire a bunch of testers because you can spare the capacity qed
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what if the qa testing is what kept it stable??
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poty posted:satya is right on this one ah, the john roberts school of logic
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hobbesmaster posted:ah, the john roberts school of logic seems to be working well for him, personally
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poty posted:satya is right on this one firing managers and pms would objectively improve the design of their stuff
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pram posted:and by flatten the org we mean no managers will be fired
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to enable 2-factor auth on your microsoft account, they literally ask you to install Google authenticator lol
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Well to be fair google authenticator works pretty well and is open source I think? Still wouldn't trust it with the keys to anything important though.
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Talorat posted:Well to be fair google authenticator works pretty well and is open source I think? until the google QA team forgets to check if the names of the applications attached to each key and you just have a list of numbers. oops.
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hobbesmaster posted:john roberts if you haven't listened to 'glass eights' u should
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Talorat posted:Well to be fair google authenticator works pretty well and is open source I think?
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Athletic Footjob posted:satya's crafty wank post / username combo
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one person i know through a friend who was still there until last week worked as a release manager in azure. so like, the only person in the world who actually wanted to be the release guy, on the cloud product which is one half of your new mobile + cloud focus, who was actually competent and i don't even clearly they are gutting everyone who is not pm/dev and its gonna be a riot
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i left ms in 07 but the pm i worked most closely with had 4 interest only mortgages on 4 different condos that he was leasing out and was trying really drat hard to convince me to do the same saying it was basically free money. i wish i knew how it worked out
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This is why I don't own property in the seattle area. Also, everyone's missing the major bomb MSFT dropped on all the tens of thousands of surrounding vendors who work with them. http://blogs.seattletimes.com/micro...s-page-subtitle This basically means the entire seattle economy is now completely hosed and IT wages will plummet.
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http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-bing-is-not-a-bottomless-money-pit-any-more-7000024555/ satya keep gunning for google search
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how bad is it. i broke down the apple one already.
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Surface revenue was $409 million, driven by our second generation Surface 2 and Surface Pro 2 devices, and the recent launch of Surface Pro 3. Xbox Platform revenue increased $104 million or 14%, driven primarily by increased console revenue. We sold in 1.1 million consoles in the fourth quarter, as we drew down channel inventory, compared to 1.0 million consoles during the prior year. We sold 5.8 million Lumia Smartphones, and 30.3 million non-Lumia phones following the completion of the NDS acquisition. Low price point devices drove a majority of the Lumia Smartphone volumes. strong adoption of Office 365 Home and Personal offerings, which added more than 1 million subscribers in the fourth quarter to total more than 5.6 million. Search revenue increased 40%, offset by an 11% decline in display revenue. Growth in search advertising revenue was due to higher revenue per search (“RPS”), increased search volume, and the expiration of North American RPS guarantee payments to Yahoo! in the prior year. U.S. search share grew again to 19.2%.
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