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Well we all knew this would be a time-gated hamster wheel with a real money escape hatch.
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People on the official forums are noting that it'll take something like a year to max per school.
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Jul 22, 2014 06:47
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Bloodly posted:People on the official forums are noting that it'll take something like a year to max per school. Ahahahahahahahahaha well loving done Cryptic. 
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Jul 22, 2014 07:10
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wdarkk posted:Generally you just get under the guns and dps hard, stopping only for the Feedback Pulse (unless you can remove it). I've never really had a problem with that with well-geared goons. If the B'ger guns get bugged (and they often do), their lances can and will one shot you regardless of where you are positioned in relation to them. This includes back at the spawn. Which is why its best to go all in guns blazing, survivability be damned.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:27
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Bloodly posted:People on the official forums are noting that it'll take something like a year to max per school. Someone on the forums posted:2,000,000 EXP per school, 7 schools and 6K daily. 
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Jul 22, 2014 07:38
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Ludicro posted:If the B'ger guns get bugged (and they often do), their lances can and will one shot you regardless of where you are positioned in relation to them. This includes back at the spawn. Which is why its best to go all in guns blazing, survivability be damned. It's best to avoid that loving STF altogether.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:43
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Bloodly posted:People on the official forums are noting that it'll take something like a year to max per school.  And don't forget the lovely random chance to get very/ultra rare items, and the lovely random chance for decent mods even if you get one!At least everyone can safely write off crafting again. Sir Coq of Nandos posted:It's best to avoid that loving STF altogether.
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Sir Coq of Nandos posted:It's best to avoid that loving STF altogether. HSE is easy, unless you're in a 700 dps oddy or something.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:07
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Asimo posted:Also about $1100 worth of dilithium if you're rushing it from start to finish. 
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Jul 22, 2014 08:19
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Sure you will. Just insert credit card.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:23
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Insert name here posted:Does this mean I won't be getting that kinetic sniper rifle any time soon? Wait for some idiot to blow their savings on rushing through the crafting trees and then start selling the poo poo they craft for MEGABUX on the exchange. It'll be cheaper and faster than doing it yourself.
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Korgan posted:Wait for some idiot to blow their savings on rushing through the crafting trees and then start selling the poo poo they craft for MEGABUX on the exchange. It'll be cheaper and faster than doing it yourself. Some idiot from that Accolades fleet already did. Why you would choose to blow your dil on something as worthless as ground weapons....  e: I'd rush beams and cannons myself, its not that bad. Only ~2m dil to be able to craft the good stuff, but at 14k dil & 20h per attempt, its not worth it to me when some idiot will do the work for me and sell it at a loss for EC. Mondian fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 09:36
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There are people selling mk xii ultra-rare omni beams and dhcs already, too. New 'scheduled maintenance' is on Tuesdays, apparently?
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Jul 22, 2014 10:15
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I thought I'd have a shot at this game again after not playing for a year or so because why not. Holy crap I have forgotten everything and it's confusing as hell :|
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Jul 22, 2014 11:14
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This pretty much proves to me it's better to just sell the crafting mats on the exchange if possible.
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Mondian posted:e: I'd rush beams and cannons myself, its not that bad. Only ~2m dil to be able to craft the good stuff, but at 14k dil & 20h per attempt, its not worth it to me when some idiot will do the work for me and sell it at a loss for EC. The whole thing's a joke of a system, designed as a massive money sink for the whales. At least the patch moved all the crafting crap to a new tab instead of clogging your bank, it was worth it just for that.
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Asimo posted:Ahaha gently caress you Cryptic. Yeah that sure is some bullshit. I still want that science crit trait though. I just hope it isn't nerfed into uselessness by the time I unlock it next year. Sir Coq of Nandos posted:It's best to avoid that loving STF altogether. Don't be a baby, HSE with goons is easy marks once you learn what feedback pulse looks like and adjust accordingly.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:52
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Asimo posted:The whole thing's a joke of a system, designed as a massive money sink for the whales. At least the patch moved all the crafting crap to a new tab instead of clogging your bank, it was worth it just for that. Yep bad idea backwash from Neverwinter. Anyone know if those Isolinear Chip/Circuitry, Intermix Chamber, etc purple crafting components drop anywhere? Or is there no way to avoid the dil cost?
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Mondian posted:Yep bad idea backwash from Neverwinter.
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Lorak posted:Of course you can avoid the dil cost! They have a random chance of dropping... from the C-Store R&D packs.
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Jul 22, 2014 12:04
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All aboard the asian MMO lovely F2P monetization train! 
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Mondian posted:Yep bad idea backwash from Neverwinter. They can drop from the R&D Assistance doff mission from SFA and the klank equivalent, costs 1000dil and takes 2 days like the General Recruitment mission, can also give school specialists. The drop chance from specific STFs (don't know which drops what) is supposedly <5%. So yeah, dil black hole at it's finest. Sleepy District fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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I was under the impression that the STF drops were all particle/gas poo poo only. vvv Yeah, those are materials, not components. Mondian fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 13:19
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Though it likely doesn't apply, logic would dictate that they'd want people to use their new lovely system besides the original few that used the old crafting system. By that assumption, you'd think they would want to modify the system as a whole so that people would actually use it, instead of making it a hilarious failed money pit for a vast minority of the playerbase who would otherwise continue to play space barbie dressup and buy things from the zen store instead.Mondian posted:I was under the impression that the STF drops were all particle/gas poo poo only. You can occasionally get Trellium-K or whatever from the boxes dropped by elite STFs.
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They left their awful old crafting system in place too though, on Deferi the guy who crafts planet-specific stuff does it through the general crafting system window 
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Jul 22, 2014 14:27
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Dely Apple posted:They left their awful old crafting system in place too though, on Deferi the guy who crafts planet-specific stuff does it through the general crafting system window Cryptic half assing things again, not all that surprised.
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Dootman posted:HSE is easy, unless you're in a 700 dps oddy or something. I had a person on my team doing 2k with a Multi-Vector, along with everyone else on my team doing under 5k. I sat around for 30 minutes actually hoping they would get somewhere, but it was rather hopeless once we got to the queen.
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So I started up another alt and as I approached 15 I figured I'd try just actually crafting things they would use and see if that was any help. So I looted all the mats I could in the missions from the tutorial on, and when I hit level 15 I went to craft an item appropriate to that rank (mk IV body armor) that was white quality only to discover I was missing the materials needed to make components. So I check the exchange and everything is either in stacks of 999 and costing millions or single items going for like 10-50k EC a pop. I'm sure that's partly just the market being hosed at launch but crafting is 100% useless for anyone starting out now. Not to mention you'll hit 50 in a week and still only be level four or five in a single crafting school that still can't craft any good mk XII gear that is going to be thrown at you for free from drops and rep rewards.
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The other half of that problem is the exchange interface is loving terrible. There's no way to say "sell these 500 contraband at 50k ec each", it's"sell this stack of contra for X ec", repeat 17,000 times. The Exchange REALLY needs some attention, but I'm sure the back end is so fuckered up that it won't happen until something breaks hard, and we're without an Exchange for two or more months.
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If the people responsible for the new doff interface were to look at the exchange, it would be unusable for a hell of a lot longer than a month or two.
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Dely Apple posted:They left their awful old crafting system in place too though, on Deferi the guy who crafts planet-specific stuff does it through the general crafting system window Did doing it give you skill, and if so, what in? I've still got a bunch of those on some characters from random messing around in Defera Invasion.
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Could I get an invite to the chat/wiki? Infyrion@infyrion. Also registered as Infyrion for the wiki. Managed to find the space fire extinguisher but I think I'm years too late for firefighting...
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Bloodly posted:Did doing it give you skill, and if so, what in? I've still got a bunch of those on some characters from random messing around in Defera Invasion. It did and gave my alt an achievement for simply making some Borg anti-borg things. Dabbler, ho! Ed: As in it gave me 10 general skill points, not in anything new. This is like the old mutant system.
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So if they removed all the dil stores does that mean you are no longer able to pick up purple quality crazy Romulan full auto guns? If so that's really weird as they went out of their way to include them in one of the tool tips for the new xindi kit modules only to make it so you can only purchase common mkIX versions.
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How do I measure my DPS?
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Berke Negri posted:So if they removed all the dil stores does that mean you are no longer able to pick up purple quality crazy Romulan full auto guns? If so that's really weird as they went out of their way to include them in one of the tool tips for the new xindi kit modules only to make it so you can only purchase common mkIX versions. Well poo poo I totally forgot about that. faxmachine fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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The one he's thinking of is the Plasma Piercing Beam Rifle, and that was never craftable(Old or new), nor has it ever been in the Rep stores. The only purple grade version of it, like the other weird-rear end Romulan weapons like the Charged Burst Assault, were in the old Dil store. They've been removed without recompense. The easiest way to show the weapons I mean is to go to the Romulan Flotilla and look at the common ground weapons None of the normal weapons are there, only the 'weird-rear end ones' that he and I are on about. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 19:10
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-Troika- posted:How do I measure my DPS? 3d20x10000
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Bloodly posted:The one he's thinking of is the Plasma Piercing Beam Rifle, and that was never craftable(Old or new), nor has it ever been in the Rep stores. The only purple grade version of it, like the other weird-rear end Romulan weapons like the Charged Burst Assault, were in the old Dil store. They've been removed without recompense. That sucks, those guns were basically romulan AKs. Well, at least the bortasqu uniforms are neat. Great patch
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Bloodly posted:The one he's thinking of is the Plasma Piercing Beam Rifle, and that was never craftable(Old or new), nor has it ever been in the Rep stores. The only purple grade version of it, like the other weird-rear end Romulan weapons like the Charged Burst Assault, were in the old Dil store. They've been removed without recompense. Ya, that is disappointing, as well as the loss of the Wide Beam Split Rifle. I just got one for an alt when it was mentioned last in the thread and a week later it's all gone.
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