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Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
a resurgent Prussia takes the field

e- oh gently caress

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jul 23, 2014

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CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

VikingSkull posted:

a resurgent Prussia takes the field

e- oh gently caress


Godholio posted:

Lithuania or Russia? :getin:

Transylvania will rise again.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Godholio posted:

Lithuania or Russia? :getin:

Either, but I was thinking more of the Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth than anything. :poland:

VikingSkull posted:

a resurgent Prussia takes the field

e- oh gently caress

And forget about Russia or Ukraine, the Crimean Khanate should re-emerge!

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

VikingSkull posted:

a resurgent Prussia takes the field

e- oh gently caress



Give each of them a (very small) missile and get them into a turn fight!

Plus wood is totally stealth, right?

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Fun fact: in the first draft of the Independence Day script, Russel Casse (Randy Quaid's character, the drunk guy) wasn't allowed to fly an F-18, and instead flew his cropdusting biplane into battle with an AMRAAM tied underneath to deliver the killing blow.

What I wouldn't give to see that version of the movie.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Fucknag posted:

Fun fact: in the first draft of the Independence Day script, Russel Casse (Randy Quaid's character, the drunk guy) wasn't allowed to fly an F-18, and instead flew his cropdusting biplane into battle with an AMRAAM tied underneath to deliver the killing blow.

What I wouldn't give to see that version of the movie.

12 year old me would've balked so hard at that.

FullMetalJacket
Apr 5, 2008


:smug:

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Looks like an F-16 knocked up a Mig-29.

benito
Sep 28, 2004

And I don't blab
any drab gab--
I chatter hep patter

Fucknag posted:

Fun fact: in the first draft of the Independence Day script, Russel Casse (Randy Quaid's character, the drunk guy) wasn't allowed to fly an F-18, and instead flew his cropdusting biplane into battle with an AMRAAM tied underneath to deliver the killing blow.

What I wouldn't give to see that version of the movie.

I've seen that deleted scene several times but can't seem to find it online. It's pretty goofy looking.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

holocaust bloopers posted:

Looks like an F-16 knocked up a Mig-29.

Looks like an F-16 saddled with 1960's jet tech.

How exactly was this class supposed to be affected by the MiG-25 when the F-14/F-15 were already planned?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Snowdens Secret posted:

Looks like an F-16 saddled with 1960's jet tech.

How exactly was this class supposed to be affected by the MiG-25 when the F-14/F-15 were already planned?

Well since that's literally the first draft of the F-16...

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Snowdens Secret posted:

Looks like an F-16 saddled with 1960's jet tech.

How exactly was this class supposed to be affected by the MiG-25 when the F-14/F-15 were already planned?

This was your high-numbers, based-everywhere, dash interceptor.

With two engines. :monocle:

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

holocaust bloopers posted:

Looks like an F-16 knocked up a Mig-29.

...with the rear end of a -111/AFVG/tornado. :barf:

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005


Duke Chin posted:

...with the rear end of a -111/AFVG/tornado. :barf:

You take that back you. <:mad:>

FullMetalJacket
Apr 5, 2008

:smug:

FullMetalJacket fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jul 23, 2014

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Snowdens Secret posted:

Looks like an F-16 saddled with 1960's jet tech.

How exactly was this class supposed to be affected by the MiG-25 when the F-14/F-15 were already planned?

You don't say...


From my understanding, the ADF/LWF wasn't affected all that much by the MiG-25; that was always going to be the Mach 3 battlecruiser that the F-15 would address. Rather, the program was influenced by experiences with the F-104 as well as the smaller, simpler Soviet fighters and fighter-bombers of the time, such as the MiG-21 and -23, as well as the Sukhoi Su-7 family. Basically the ADF/LWF boiled down to "let's get as many jets in the sky as possible for the least amount of cash".

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
So what you're saying is that the Mig 25/F-15 were the Tie Interceptor to the Mig-21/F-16's Tie Fighter? :v:

charliemonster42 posted:

You take that back you. <:mad:>
:barf::barf:

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

More like TIE Defenders and TIE Fighters. Yeah I know...

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Fucknag posted:

Fun fact: in the first draft of the Independence Day script, Russel Casse (Randy Quaid's character, the drunk guy) wasn't allowed to fly an F-18, and instead flew his cropdusting biplane into battle with an AMRAAM tied underneath to deliver the killing blow.

What I wouldn't give to see that version of the movie.

Pretty sure it's a deleted scene on most of the DVD releases. It looks really corny, partly because they never finished the CGI all the way.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

YF19pilot posted:

Russia will always be that unbearable Eastern European power. If not them, then who? Lithuania?

Much preferable, in the least because it is a lot smaller and less capable of doing stupid poo poo. Anyway, I like this cartoon:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


It looks for all the world like they're feeding it.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

I'd love to see that thing pop a rear hatch, in-flight, and just poo poo out the entire fleet of biplanes.

Aero737
Apr 30, 2006
A transasia ATR-72 in Taiwan went down into some houses during a Typhoon. TV here in China reporting 54 dead.

A Melted Tarp
Nov 12, 2013

At the date
F-16 is a sunny day fighter. ATR is a sunny day puddle jumper.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Aero737 posted:

A transasia ATR-72 in Taiwan went down into some houses during a Typhoon. TV here in China reporting 54 dead.



drat. Landing during a typhoon though...?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

CharlesM posted:

drat. Landing during a typhoon though...?

Report I heard this AM (BBC reporting on NPR) was that it was an attempted emergency landing.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

Report I heard this AM (BBC reporting on NPR) was that it was an attempted emergency landing.

Yeah, heard on the radio it was during the second landing attempt.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

A Melted Tarp posted:

F-16 is a sunny day fighter. ATR is a sunny day puddle jumper.

First Air uses ATRs up in the high Arctic with no problems...

Barnsy
Jul 22, 2013
Ran into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lip8lPWFLo

I remember seeing that a while back. Is there a reason designs haven't come back to that? I'm guessing safety and the profusion of under-wing designs plays a part? Are those designs still more efficient (if they used current tech)?

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Barnsy posted:

Ran into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lip8lPWFLo

I remember seeing that a while back. Is there a reason designs haven't come back to that? I'm guessing safety and the profusion of under-wing designs plays a part? Are those designs still more efficient (if they used current tech)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propfan

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




MrChips posted:

First Air uses ATRs up in the high Arctic with no problems...

co-worker flying up to the Yukon said that the flight wasn't so bad, but he was surprised by the duct tape.

edit: come to think of it, that may have been a jetstream...

edit2: nope HS 748 Turns out crappy Euro twin props are pretty popular up north.

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jul 24, 2014

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


The summary is they're loud and quiet planes are more important than modest fuel economy gains.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

hobbesmaster posted:

The summary is they're loud and quiet planes are more important than modest fuel economy gains.

Propfans sound awesome though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4oeWLq1to

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Jesus the stab on that thing looks so awkwardly huge and :dong: - sounds badass though - reminds me of beefy river boats around here.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

That sounds so much better than turbofans. I wouldn't mind having that flying overhead all day :allears:

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Jonny Nox posted:

co-worker flying up to the Yukon said that the flight wasn't so bad, but he was surprised by the duct tape.

edit: come to think of it, that may have been a jetstream...

edit2: nope HS 748 Turns out crappy Euro twin props are pretty popular up north.

Those HS748s are about the most massively over-engineered aircraft I've ever seen; apart from a couple things they are seriously built tough. Air North and First Air loved the hell out of them for their performance. It's younger sibling, the ATP, is another story though (I recall reading that one of the regulars ITT flew one for a while and hated it; can't remember who it is though).

The Jetstream, on the other hand, is an aircraft that you will typically see in service because you couldn't find any other 19-seater or you didn't want to blow a pile of cash leasing a Beech 1900.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
Small plane crash, took off from an airfield about 5 minutes from my house. :smith:

http://goo.gl/153STZ

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

VikingSkull posted:

a resurgent Prussia takes the field

e- oh gently caress



Man, that color scheme was so much cooler than today's.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Man, that color scheme was so much cooler than today's.

They should just go back to it and be done with it. After all, if your transports are being shot at because they aren't camouflaged or wearing ~*low visibility markings~~, you done hosed up big time already.

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Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Eclipse of the sun as seen by one of the lunar rover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyZoD7BRTtg

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