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double nine posted:I've run into a small issue. I'm trying to piss off westridge as much as I can. During the Intercept Nasri mission, he should give a -1 if you alert the guards. However, I've picked the "chrismas trees" dialogue option and didn't get an opinion penalty. More than that, when I disable/kill the guards I get a +1. Is there a way to use the mission introduction to get him to -3 or -4 (opinion from tutorial & SaudiArabia tv dialogue currently gives me -2)? In order to get the -1 during the Nasri mission you need to let the guard actually trigger the alarm. So after the dialogue ends, just wait for him to approach the alarm panel. Also, you can get at least -2 from the tutorial (possibly even -3) and another -3 from the opening conversation in Saudi, so it's possible to reach -4 regardless of how you handle the Nasri intro. double nine posted:another item: end game news voiceover. Does killing Nasri give a different ending for Saudi Arabia than capturing the prick? I don't think so. Whether you chose to kill or arrest him only matters during the actual game, the news report at the end will be the same either way. Edit: redreader posted:I have a problem that makes this game unplayable: The PC port of Alpha Protocol is really buggy in parts, though I've never heard of this particular issue. Based on your description it sounds like there might be a missing file, so try verifying your game cache, if you haven't already. As Scorchy pointed out, you could just skip the tutorial, or you could still do it but run past the guy in question (taking him down is not a requirement for completing the challenge). Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 00:36 on May 18, 2014 |
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Alpha Protocol is 3 loving dollars on Amazon right now. This is the best game you've never played.
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May 22, 2014 20:11
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I think the people in this thread HAVE played it though. Five or six times probably.
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May 22, 2014 20:13
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epitasis posted:I think the people in this thread HAVE played it though. Five or six times probably. Yeah, but now we have a good opportunity to foist copies on everybody we know.
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May 22, 2014 20:26
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wiegieman posted:Alpha Protocol is 3 loving dollars on Amazon right now. This is the best game you've never played. 
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I've just re-bought it for a couple of quid too. Looking forward to playing it again so much.
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Huh. I just encountered new dialogue. In the greybox, I did Parker's special task and did the shooting gallery spraying as many bullets across the level as possible, leading to a score of 25. Never bothered to go to darcy. When talking to Westridge, at one point he says "I wouldn't think any less of you". This time, however, he said "I wouldn't think any less of you [beat] Well, not any less than I already do." drat Yancy, that's cold. Also, surprised that they put that in.
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double nine posted:
I think we still had people finding new stuff something like six months into the thread. Admittedly it was only a few lines of dialogue here and there, but goddammn.
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I deleted my profile files and re-downloaded them from steam. I am now able to get past that place in the training mission. I even did a takedown on the guy without a crash. Hooray, I can actually play alpha protocol 
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Okay, I'm going crazy here. This has to be a bug. Can someone confirm this? Nasri mission: purchased all the intel, but the weapon shipping subgoal (the one in the last chamber before Nasri) will not show up. The only explanation I have is that the subgoal (and the interactable object) will not spawn if you allow the guards at the beginning of the level to go on alert, but don't defeat them. AKA: 1. start mission. 2. pick suave. 3. Wait for guards to go on alert. 4. run away. 5. goal "defeat guards" never goes away. 6. subgoal at end of level doesn't spawn. It's the only explanation i have for it not showing up. It's infuriating.
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First 3 people to PM me their Steam IDs get a free copy of Alpha Protocol. All gone! RadicalR fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 24, 2014 |
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double nine posted:It's really disappointing that you can't get a similar level of verbal smackdown if you come across him during the endgame. Marburg himself really is no slouch with the insults either "What agency did you say it was that trained you again? The FDA? The DMV?"  double nine posted:Okay, I'm going crazy here. This has to be a bug. Can someone confirm this? Nasri mission: purchased all the intel, but the weapon shipping subgoal (the one in the last chamber before Nasri) will not show up. The only explanation I have is that the subgoal (and the interactable object) will not spawn if you allow the guards at the beginning of the level to go on alert, but don't defeat them. Did you die and Continue instead of exiting to the main menu and reloading? That sounds a lot like the effect that this bug has (causes random objectives and enemies to disappear, sometimes moving primary objectives back to areas of the map that are no longer reachable). I once spent half an hour stuck in the Moscow train station because of that. edit2: One bit of writing that I particularly liked was the way the initial encounter with SIE at the train station plays out. The mission always ends up with one of them trying to convince the other party to work with them, despite the party in question not being very keen on the idea. The neat thing about it is that this conversation depends on your reputation with SIE at that point, but the lines are identical in both cases, the two sets of lines are just swapped. Sapozhnik fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Jun 13, 2014 |
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Mr Dog posted:Marburg himself really is no slouch with the insults either How do you get Marburg to give that insult? I've never heard that one.
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It happens when you fight him in Rome.
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It must depend on your reputation with him and your responses towards him, I've never once heard him say that in 5-6 playthroughs. That said, I almost always kill his rear end, because it's just so goddamn satisfying hearing that 'boo, loving, hoo'. God, I love Thorton's voice actor. People complained about him being too flat, but he goddamn nailed that scene.
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I was between games for a little bit and decided to finally do a "kill absolutely everyone" playthrough. Gotta say, that was satisfying. Especially Marburg; "I will END YOU, Thornt- *five chain-shots between the eyes*". Sold his pistol afterwards, even though I had literally nothing to spend the money on. Felt good.
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AmiYumi posted:I was between games for a little bit and decided to finally do a "kill absolutely everyone" playthrough. Gotta say, that was satisfying. Especially Marburg; "I will END YOU, Thornt- *five chain-shots between the eyes*". Sold his pistol afterwards, even though I had literally nothing to spend the money on. Felt good. What's the total tally of unkillable characters? Hong Shi, Heck, and Grigori? Edit: Can you kill Sie and Albatross in the same playthrough?
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moller posted:What's the total tally of unkillable characters? Hong Shi, Heck, and Grigori?
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Anybody who could kill Albatross in the situation you find him is a complete monster 
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Mr Dog posted:Anybody who could kill Albatross in the situation you find him is a complete monster And? 
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I love how strained the relationship with Albatross gets if you murder SIS but don't provoke G22 beyond that. Thorton is all calm and rational, but Albatross' lines just seethe hatred even as your relationship value goes up.
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Wait, if you kill Sie or Albatross at Brayko's mansion how can you kill the other one?
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2house2fly posted:Wait, if you kill Sie or Albatross at Brayko's mansion how can you kill the other one?
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Accordion Man posted:You have to side with Albatross in Brayko's mansion because you can kill SIE at the train station if I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure she always survives the train station. Whenever I try to fight her at the end, eventually she just ends the fight and leaves.
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2house2fly posted:Wait, if you kill Sie or Albatross at Brayko's mansion how can you kill the other one? Pretty sure you can only kill one or the other.
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I finally decided to pick AP up again after finding this thread. I decided to go with the Soldier class, but I'm still trying to use stealth as much as possible. I just did the Nasiri mission, and was able to sneak a few areas, but had to shoot my way through the rest. I've been putting the points I've been earning into Stealth & Sabotage. Should I be putting points into anything else? Also, when aiming, is there a way to switch which shoulder you aim over?
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Max Wilco posted:I finally decided to pick AP up again after finding this thread. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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And yes, there is a way to switch shoulder. On a controller, it's by pressing either the left or right thumbstick in, if memory serves; I couldn't tell you what it is on mouse and keyboard.
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Bumpin this thread like a motherfucker because I can't stop playing this game. Still haven't beat it, and I'm already looking forward to my next playthroughs. It's funny. I bought it when it was released (because I always do that with Obsidian's stuff), but couldn't stand it. A combination of minor things--Thorton's goony crouch animation, the hacking minigame, JC-Denton-Liberty-Island baseline weapons skills--left me with a bad impression, and I only made it through one Saudi mission before losing interest. I don't have much money for games at the moment, so I went through my never-finished Steam games last week and reinstalled AP. Still didn't much like it at first, but I really started getting into it when I realized how much poo poo I wasn't seeing--the end of Saudi was the first hint that my choices had some pretty major consequences. After that, I was sold. Can't wait to play it again. Edit: Just discovered a friend of mine from high school worked on this. Glad he did well for himself. Asbury fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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3Romeo posted:but I really started getting into it when I realized how much poo poo I wasn't seeing--the end of Saudi was the first hint that my choices had some pretty major consequences. In my opinion the most interesting thing about this game is that there are just as many choices you don't even necessarily realize you're making and the minor consequences they can have. They have thought of so many small things and even when you just get a small perk for it, it's insane realizing they thought of it 
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Fathis Munk posted:In my opinion the most interesting thing about this game is that there are just as many choices you don't even necessarily realize you're making and the minor consequences they can have. They have thought of so many small things and even when you just get a small perk for it, it's insane realizing they thought of it Right, sometimes on a playthrough I'd see something turn out a little bit differently, and it was exciting because I couldn't be completely sure exactly what I did to make that happen. Little changes in dialogue when I'd thought I was doing things just the same as a previous playthrough, all the way up to moments I had no idea were even a thing. For Pete's sake, you can go through the whole game and never even know SIE exists.
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3Romeo posted:Thorton's goony crouch animation Crappy Jack posted:For Pete's sake, you can go through the whole game and never even know SIE exists.
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Uh, so I just finished the game. Major spoilers. I was friendly with literally everyone except SIE but she wasn't much in my game so I kinda shrugged that off. Called in a ton of favors, had Albatross as my handler. I'd slept with Mina but didn't rescue her (I constantly sacrificed people eg St. James for the greater good) and Yancy found her and killed her. So I killed him. Killed Leland. Killed Darcy. Convinced Parker to help me. Marburg got away; no idea what happened to Scarlet. I know I shouldn't expect anything less from Obsidian, but the writing in this game is incredible. I'm peeking under some of the spoilers posted throughout the thread, and some of what I'm reading I can't believe--it's so entirely different from my run that it feels like it isn't even the same plot. The game sets new standards for story interactivity, and games that helped set the benchmark for it (Deus Ex) and games that pretend to do so (Mass Effect) don't come even remotely close. Starting a new (recruit) run now. Probably do a veteran run after that. Edit: I'd even say that the game is a great spiritual successor to Deus Ex (not in the story or theme so much as in the RPG mechanics and the desire to make a new kind of interactivity), and like Deus Ex, it's also frighteningly prescient. edit: purely suave recruit is already loving hilarious Asbury fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jul 30, 2014 |
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Crappy Jack posted:Right, sometimes on a playthrough I'd see something turn out a little bit differently, and it was exciting because I couldn't be completely sure exactly what I did to make that happen. Little changes in dialogue when I'd thought I was doing things just the same as a previous playthrough, all the way up to moments I had no idea were even a thing. For Pete's sake, you can go through the whole game and never even know SIE exists. What, really? What do you have to do to not meet her?
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Everyone misses Mina. I mean, they tried to signpost it, but you're rushing forward while being taunted over the intercom system and you have to make a hard (left?) turn into a door you can't even see.
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moller posted:Everyone misses Mina. I mean, they tried to signpost it, but you're rushing forward while being taunted over the intercom system and you have to make a hard (left?) turn into a door you can't even see.
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Speedball posted:What, really? What do you have to do to not meet her? When you're in Russia, if you don't do that trainyard mission that ends with a boss fight against her (do all the other Russia missions and take the priority mission to finish the hub), you never meet SIE and the game drops all future references to her, pretty much. Of course, that means you miss out on a whole mission full of stuff, but the game basically assumes that SIE doesn't exist after that point.
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Crappy Jack posted:When you're in Russia, if you don't do that trainyard mission that ends with a boss fight against her (do all the other Russia missions and take the priority mission to finish the hub), you never meet SIE and the game drops all future references to her, pretty much. Of course, that means you miss out on a whole mission full of stuff, but the game basically assumes that SIE doesn't exist after that point. But then you miss out on the best sex scene. 
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moller posted:But then you miss out on the best sex scene. I'm sorry, but Heck riding a subway car full of machine guns to kill your enemies is a much greater romantic payoff.
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Just finished playing this for the first time and I have to play it again I know I missed stuff like like who attempted to assassinate Sung, I'm pretty sure Halbech are responsible but I'm sure in a game like this you should be able to find the assassin. Anyway that was a great game from a narrative perspective but the combat mechanics were pretty meh. It ended with me and my main bro Heck (who I had spent the whole time encouraging) sailing off into the sunset probably gonna cause some more chaos as we try to discover if it was an Aloha Protocol within an Alpha Protocol, Heck is the best.
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