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triplexpac posted:In the past Dave said Sinclair would be cool with ROH getting a bigger TV deal. In the big picture, if a big tv station wants to pay for ROH programming and give ROH more spotlight that would be good for Sinclair's wrestling company and bring in more money, so why not? This. And Sinclair isn't really competing at all with what Viacom does so I can't imagine that being a major issue. There's room for a two-hour weekly show with a one-hour Sinclair program that highlights first-run house show stuff.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:52 |
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Spikeguy posted:I still really enjoyed that Cena/Cesaro match. Great for Raw and I would have accepted it as a PPV match. Does Dave have a bone to pick with Cena or is he unbiased?
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:54 |
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The Cesaro/Cena match got my all hyped up for Raw so I am still counting it as a good match despite what Big Dave says!!!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:55 |
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Cena should probably stick to what he does best and that's punch and do five moves of doom. He is a great performer but he's not great at doing wrasslin moves.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:55 |
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weekly font posted:Cena should probably stick to what he does best and that's punch and do five moves of doom. He is a great performer but he's not great at doing wrasslin moves.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:59 |
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Spikeguy posted:I still really enjoyed that Cena/Cesaro match. Great for Raw and I would have accepted it as a PPV match. Does Dave have a bone to pick with Cena or is he unbiased? Nobody in the world is unbiased, but I'd say Dave has been more fair to Cena than most internet wrestling personalities.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:11 |
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John Cena does a great powerbomb
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:13 |
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Cena's hurricanrana is really bad I wish he would stop doing it. The dude is really great at power moves, he should stick to pulling out lariats and powerbombs and stop with the sloppy faux-lucha poo poo.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:14 |
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Most people here would probably consider the huricánrana as it's actually done in Mexico 'sloppy'. It's supposed to be a roll up not an impact move. Cena's actually looks fine from that perspective except uh he doesn't actually pin with it.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:17 |
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NienNunb posted:Cena's hurricanrana is really bad I wish he would stop doing it. The dude is really great at power moves, he should stick to pulling out lariats and powerbombs and stop with the sloppy faux-lucha poo poo. He's too loving big and it always ends up looking like a bad powerbomb counter instead of a rana.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:18 |
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Um, he's clearly doing a Frankencena, not a hurricanrana.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:20 |
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Endless Mike posted:Um, he's clearly doing a Frankencena, not a hurricanrana.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:37 |
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He needs to master the squisher IMO.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:37 |
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Perigryn posted:He should at least listen to Austin and tighten up on that STF. I've kinda always assumed he does it so loosely so when kids copy their #1 hero they don't end up cranking each other's necks and choking people out...
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:38 |
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Jeez Meltzer buried Cena so badly there. He's normally one of Cena's biggest defenders. I didn't see the match but I may have to see it now.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:54 |
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It's pretty clear (at least to me) that watching all the G-1 shows is making Dave salty toward other wrestling. I had Cena/Cesaro around ***, not MOTYC level at all but also nowhere near deserving of the burial Dave put on Cena. Especially when compared to the actual Bad Match later on the card that they both appropriately hated. Every match I've ever heard Dave dismantle like that was in the negative stars territory, and no one could say that about Cena/Cesaro.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:28 |
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To be fair to Dave, he's probably tired as hell and irritable since this news cycle has been batshit crazy even without having to cover a bunch of long G1 matches.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:34 |
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I was a little surprised at all the HM nominations it got while other good recent tv matches like the Cesaro/Ambrose match on Smackdown I liked a lot got barely anything, but I guess that's one of the things about a bigger audience and live watching. Also I am a sucker for dumb weapon spots
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:39 |
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Dave is clearly going crazy with all the workload, judging by him cracking up at Bryan's jokes on this episode
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:44 |
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triplexpac posted:In the past Dave said Sinclair would be cool with ROH getting a bigger TV deal. In the big picture, if a big tv station wants to pay for ROH programming and give ROH more spotlight that would be good for Sinclair's wrestling company and bring in more money, so why not? Right. Sinclair's entire model of doing business is: 1: Buy local television stations 2: Get into disputes with cable / satellite providers over carriage fees and threaten to take said stations off the air 3: Goto 1 I'm sure they'd have no issue whatsoever making a cable deal for ROH to get the programming in better timeslots than 9 a.m. on Sunday mornings.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:51 |
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Timby posted:Right. Sinclair's entire model of doing business is: Well it's kind of a moot point anyway, since seemingly no one on cable wants to pay for pro wrestling programming .
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:53 |
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I'm pretty surprised to hear even a rumor that Spike would be considering putting another wrestling program in that timeslot. After this mess, I just assumed they would be done with wrestling altogether.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 18:11 |
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ExplodeYourself posted:I'm pretty surprised to hear even a rumor that Spike would be considering putting another wrestling program in that timeslot. After this mess, I just assumed they would be done with wrestling altogether. It's spike tv. What else is there? As far as ROH, that would never work on Spike until those boys learn to slow down and sell, first. Between that and their lack of quality lighting, they won't have a chance.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 18:29 |
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Quicksand_Jesus posted:As far as ROH, that would never work on Spike until those boys learn to slow down and sell, first. Between that and their lack of quality lighting, they won't have a chance. And, goddahmut, whatever happened to countouts?
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 18:58 |
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If you want to cheer up go listen to part two of Austin and Shamrock. His story of the tryout for Pancrase is great
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:03 |
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Is Shamrock on Austin's show to plug something? Or just there to shoot the poo poo? I haven't listened to any of it yet
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:20 |
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triplexpac posted:Is Shamrock on Austin's show to plug something? Or just there to shoot the poo poo? I haven't listened to any of it yet From what I can tell they're just shooting the poo poo
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:21 |
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Quicksand_Jesus posted:It's spike tv. What else is there? You do realize Spike aired TNA for years and at one point Jeff Jarrett told the X Division to stop selling and move faster like a video game...
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:24 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:And, goddahmut, whatever happened to countouts? They're going to need heels too, but how can you be a heel these days when there's no rules? None of these guys know how to use the ropes!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:25 |
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MassRafTer posted:You do realize Spike aired TNA for years and at one point Jeff Jarrett told the X Division to stop selling and move faster like a video game... You obviously aren't a Ross Report fan. What a lucky guy you are.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 20:55 |
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Daniel Bryan posted:Jeez Meltzer buried Cena so badly there. He's normally one of Cena's biggest defenders. I didn't see the match but I may have to see it now. he did say that he likes Cena and that he usually thinks he's better than this, just for whatever reason on that night Cena was garbage
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 21:07 |
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I guess Spike kicked out of TNA's cover at one.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 21:37 |
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Quicksand_Jesus posted:You obviously aren't a Ross Report fan. When I typed that I knew there was a chance it was from TNAMecca or something, but this is the podcast thread, why would someone post that here? I looked at the next few replies and thought "hey people are making fun of him for having an opinion like Jim Ross, it must be real." I'm still having trouble believing even Jim Ross is that out of touch.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 21:48 |
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poo poo TNA even had a formula for a long time where they wouldn't even air any heat segments. Hot Open -> Cut to Commercial -> FINISH IMMEDIATELY AFTER COMMERCIAL.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 21:57 |
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HulkaMatt posted:poo poo TNA even had a formula for a long time where they wouldn't even air any heat segments. Hot Open -> Cut to Commercial -> FINISH IMMEDIATELY AFTER COMMERCIAL. That is Russo in a nutshell. He hates matches of any length, just get to the finish already
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 22:00 |
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triplexpac posted:Is Shamrock on Austin's show to plug something? Or just there to shoot the poo poo? I haven't listened to any of it yet The whole thing seemed to boil down to Austin bringing up Shamrock in a conversation during a podcast, stopping and mumbling,"You know I should really get in touch with Ken, maybe do a podcast with him...." and then actually following up on it. I really enjoy the shows where he just catches up with somebody because they haven't talked in a while or he's never had a chance to talk to the person at all and he just wants to shoot the poo poo. Nothing being sold or promoted (though Austin always makes a point to promote their e-mails/websites/twitter etc or any work they're currently doing), just a couple of guys talking about wrestling back in the day
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 23:24 |
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I finally got around to catching Colt's interview with JR and I liked it. They kinda debated in spots about the nature of wrestling and where its going. I wanna see JR's reaction to a Dragon Gate title match now.
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 00:21 |
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quote:Vince Russo @pyroballyhoo · 3h Can't wait for this trainwreck
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 00:45 |
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The best thing about TNA going out of business is that Mike Tenay will be able to do Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame preview audios again.
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 02:13 |
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coconono posted:I finally got around to catching Colt's interview with JR and I liked it. They kinda debated in spots about the nature of wrestling and where its going. I wanna see JR's reaction to a Dragon Gate title match now. Really? That was particularly terrible JR. Sounded like he just woke up and was in rear end in a top hat supreme mode. You could tell Colt didn't agree with most of what JR said, but I just don't think he's a confrontational guy.
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