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Safety Dance posted:The extra $$$ goes toward lightness and quietness. A $60 Scorpion will protect you roughly as well as a $600 Schuberth, but I'd rather wear the Schuberth if I could afford it. I kept my last helmet, which was a cheap POS modular helmet, the modular part broke at the hinge. I epoxied it in the closed position. If I'm ever in a position where I'd have to use it though, I think I'll just take the car.
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Safety Dance posted:The extra $$$ goes toward lightness and quietness. A $60 Scorpion will protect you roughly as well as a $600 Schuberth, but I'd rather wear the Schuberth if I could afford it. Of course. I wear a $350 Nolan, but the Scorpion works just as well - I'm just not as comfortable when I wear it.
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Megaspel posted:Yo heads up, sorry if I keep derailing this thread into cycle hat chat, but it seems as though mostly everyone is having a good time with it. You've gotten a lot of advice in this thread, but IMHO it is all pretty bad and wrong. Most of the stats you'll see here are gamed by equipment manufacturers to make you think that helmets somehow make you hugely safer. In reality helmets, both bicycle and motorcycle, are very dangerous. You'll hear about how their weight can cause neck damage in an accident or how they can snag on things, and while those are true, that's not what's so dangerous. Helmets, and protective equipment in general, gives you a false sense of security. You will push yourself to go faster and try more dangerous maneuvers if you're wearing a helmet than if not. I saw a study once (sorry don't have a link handy  ) that showed that on average, a helmet wearer will ride 6 mph faster than otherwise. Overconfidence breeds mistakes, and when you're on two wheels you don't want to make any mistakes. Helmets are also hot and uncomfortable which also leads do dangerous riding. They decrease your visibility, and as you mentioned, mess up your hair. poo poo, the biggest reason why I ride my motorcycle is to look cool, it's such a pain that wearing a helmet messes that up. My brother's girlfriend was in a bicycle accident last fall. She was wearing a helmet and mashed her head up pretty bad. She's just now learning to walk with a walker and she'll never have full use of her motor skills. We still don't know exactly what caused the accident since she can't remember what happened, but that helmet sure didn't do much - speed definitely could have bee a factor. It's too bad I live in such a nanny state since I'm required to wear a helmet. I know it makes me a less safe rider. I do take solace in the fact that the biggest reason why I ride is the adrenaline so I try to rationalize my helmet wearing by the fact that it pushes me that much closer to the edge. If anybody brings up the fact that professional racers wear helmets, just remember that they're already taking it right to the edge so there isn't any more danger added by the helmet. Also, before anybody jumps down my throat by taking such an anti-CA hive mind stance: I'm just trying to show the OP both sides of the issue. I just hope he does his own research and comes to his own conclusions. This is a sensitive topic so I don't want anybody to make a decision after hearing from only one side. Whatever decision you come to in the end should be your own.
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Koruthaiolos posted:You've gotten a lot of advice in this thread, but IMHO it is all pretty bad and wrong. Most of the stats you'll see here are gamed by equipment manufacturers to make you think that helmets somehow make you hugely safer. In reality helmets, both bicycle and motorcycle, are very dangerous. You'll hear about how their weight can cause neck damage in an accident or how they can snag on things, and while those are true, that's not what's so dangerous. Helmets, and protective equipment in general, gives you a false sense of security. You will push yourself to go faster and try more dangerous maneuvers if you're wearing a helmet than if not. I saw a study once (sorry don't have a link handy A fair and balanced post.
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Post your sources. I assume you are making this poo poo up.
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Jul 30, 2014 00:48
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Jesus take the wheel, err... handlebars.
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Jul 30, 2014 01:00
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Speed doesn't kill, helmets do . I'm glad there's at least one like-minded person in CA.Despite helmet laws in my state, I make sure my 4 year old daughter never wears her helmet when she's riding on my sportbike's handlebars, and I explain to her that the extra risk I'm taking by wearing a helmet is my own personal choice, and she should never follow my example, while I show her how to clutch up in second.
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Baller Witness Bro posted:I love that everyone is so trained to throw out the usual gear advice they don't even flinch at getting trolled. Basically this. I thought it was obvious but poe's law is a bitch I guess. e: VVVVV 
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Koruthaiolos posted:In reality helmets, both bicycle and motorcycle, are very dangerous. Hahahaha holy poo poo you've got to be kidding me.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:Hahahaha holy poo poo you've got to be kidding me. <insert jet noise here>
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Jul 30, 2014 07:52
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I was fine with everything except the part about only riding to look cool.
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Jul 30, 2014 14:22
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Wait, you don't ride just to look cool? I thought that's why we all did it. Also, for freedom. 
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Jul 30, 2014 14:28
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There's nothing cooler than a shirt full with yellow bug streaks and a puffy face.
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Jul 30, 2014 15:19
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I only ride because it gives me a socially acceptable way to wear tight leather suits all the time.
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Finally got my held sambia gloves in the mail. And they look nice, and build quality seems good. Fc-moto took 6 days to ship my package(wont be shopping there for anything I need fast) then the local post sevice decided to try to send a package with c.o.d(only the import tax) to my mailbox, which is a service they do not provide. As in the normal postman does not handle payments of any kind, just straight delivery. They left a package slip in the mailbox instead, but didnt manage to get the package to the local post office as it was missing when I went to pick it up the next day.. It finally got there after another day in limbo and when I picked it up the box was smashed to poo poo, glad gloves dont break easily. gently caress the norwegian post service.
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Sagebrush posted:I only ride because it gives me a socially acceptable way to wear tight leather suits all the time. Don't forget leather chaps.
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MoraleHazard posted:Wait, you don't ride just to look cool? I thought that's why we all did it. Also, for freedom. Hell, I ride to make the bike look cool ~~flicks cigarette, wheelies away~
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Jul 31, 2014 00:41
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Petition to make arguments against gear bannable.
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Sagebrush posted:I only ride because it gives me a socially acceptable way to wear tight leather suits all the time. Motorcycling is socially acceptable?
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Halo_4am posted:The list I am about to submit to the insurance man: Z3n posted:I'd personally just claim everything I was wearing at the time. I rarely buy poo poo at MSRP so usually an accident nets me a pretty nice payout. I went back and forth on this, and finally decided gently caress it... going to go ahead and get new gear. Anything they decide not to cover no big deal, and I'll just look at it as a righteous discount on quality gear I probably should have spent the coin on in the first place. As a result : The list I actually ended up submitting to the insurance man. Daytona Road Star GTX Boots  My feet are 9.5 wide which ruled out the previous choice of the Dainese tour boots. We actually have a D-Store in Chicago so I went and tried them on in person. No way in hell was anything Dainese makes for narrow Italian feet going to work with my All'merican-beef-eating-self. These came in a wide (43 wide specifically), and some of TCX offerings come in a Plus/wide variety. I probably wouldn't have sprung for these if not for the possible insurance coverage, but they're really nice. Only complaint is that the leather overhangs the sole kind of a lot... so much so I was considering returning them because I was sure my foot was over the sole, but couldn't quite tell. I ended up having a friend with normal sized feet try them on to see if they did the same thing on him, and they do, and so I kept them. The most technical boot I've ever owned, and all the protection is internal so they're very minimal on the power ranger look. Tour Master Flex Pants  Dainese D-Stormer D-Dry Jacket  Pants and jacket are 4 season with multiple liner for multiple occasions. One thing that really sucked on a road trip in early May was packing multiple jackets to be sure to have something for cold mornings and scorching afternoons. Way easier to pack liners, and so I got poo poo that allows me to just pack additional liners rather than additional pants and jackets. I didn't end up with Dainese pants to go with the jacket based on various reviews of the matching pair. So unfortunately the zipper on the pants doesn't work with the jacket, but in all likelihood I'd never take the time to bother with that anyway so it wasn't really a big priority when shopping. Klim D3O Viper T5 Pro Back Protector  Alpinestars GP Air Gloves  Shark Vision-R Series 2 Inko Helmet  Unfortunately the bike is still in shop. So aside from the occasional ride on the wife's bike or a friend's bike the stuff is largely untested. No complaints about anything so far, but I've only had 30-45 minutes at a time in relatively mild (60-80 degrees) weather. Mostly I'm just all dressed up with no place to go. If anybody wants any details or reviews of anything in particular just ask.  Halo_4am posted:(Allstate is) $170 or so a year for the 80's technology drag bike. $75 a year for the old babby Honda's I had. That's largely due to having multi-car, multi-bike, and condo insurance with the same company and being married over 25. This claim will also no doubt change those sweet low rates This ended up breaking down to replacing the helmet outright as safety gear, but the rest of the gear wasn't tit for tat and maxed out a $1000 'stuff damaged in the wreck not related to the bike' rider of the policy. Ultimately it cost me about $200 - which is about what I was over the MSRP of all my old poo poo so I can't complain. Not sure why gear other than helmet is not considered in the same category, but whatever. All they wanted was pictures of my existing poo poo to prove I had something in the same category and that it's now damaged. Then receipts of all my new poo poo. They didn't care about MSRP of existing stuff. The only thing with this arrangement was I had to actually front the money for all the stuff before they reimbursed. However they sent the check right away so I was able to order on a credit card, and pay it off before the monthly statement even hit. No complaints about Allstate when it comes to gear. Halo_4am fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Who is your insurer since they seem to be behaving like decent humans about it?
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ShaneB posted:Hyped on my new lid. That's a nice helmet. I love blue, red and white lids, I've got the GT-Air in a similar colour scheme.
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Halo_4am posted:Tour Master Flex Pants I have these pants and love them. Wear them everyday to and from work. Have worn great and take quite a beating. Great buy.
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Just got my Pinlock installed on my Nolan N104. This thing is the real deal! It turns riding in the rain from a major, dangerous pain in the rear end to a fun experience. I'd say it's about 85% fog free under the worst conditions, and 100% fog free once you're up at speed.
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MoraleHazard posted:Who is your insurer since they seem to be behaving like decent humans about it? Allstate. Allstate. Allstate. Medical was poo poo because single vehicle means nobody but me at fault (and I was) which means bodily injury doesn't apply. So $1000 for all medical bills. Didn't even cover the ambulance ride. Gear is apparently a "all the poo poo on your bike limited to $1000" + helmet. Though they did cover all mods (luggage, shield, etc) and all scratched up parts of the bike ride to the tune of $3-4k. All of this took about 3 weeks once I fetched the bike from Tennessee. No real bullshit along the way, but I am really glad I wasn't counting on the medical or carrying rare collectables or whatever at the time of the wreck. Halo_4am fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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ShaneB posted:Hyped on my new lid. How do you like it? Thinking of getting the same thing.
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I'd really like your take on this, it's on my very short list of helmets to buy.Halo_4am posted:
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M. Night Skymall posted:How do you like it? Thinking of getting the same thing. I like mine a lot. Ventilation isn't great, at least on my bike, but it's adequate. But it's really comfortable and well made, pretty light, and seems to do a pretty good job of minimizing buffeting.
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NippleFloss posted:I like mine a lot. Ventilation isn't great, at least on my bike, but it's adequate. But it's really comfortable and well made, pretty light, and seems to do a pretty good job of minimizing buffeting. I think the wind buffeting is astounding. It cuts through the wind like a knife and even doing head checks feels great. The shield is nice and stiff so articulating it is a pleasure, and the optical quality of the shield is perfect so you almost forget it's on. It's small and light. It's fairly quiet even with vents open, but I haven't had to ride in super hot temperatures so I can't vouch for venting quality. The main things I was comparing against was the gt-air and the arai rx-q. The gt-air just had really awful padding around the ears that made me have to pull it off in less than a minute. It felt totally wrong. I have large ears though so that's my cross to bear. The arai felt perfect, even better on my head than the 1200 (say 100% vs 93%), but it felt more like a track helmet than the shoei. The visor has no detents, so it feels like it's designed to be up or down completely and could move around if you left it halfway up for ventilation. Also it doesn't come with a pin lock visor out of the box, and new ones are like $60. Ultimately I felt like I was getting a better everyday helmet, and more for my money, with the 1200.
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Southpaw posted:I'd really like your take on this, it's on my very short list of helmets to buy. Feature for feature with the GT-Air but $100 cheaper. Mind that it is the Series 2 Vision R, which has improved ventilation and refinement of the vent controls vs the series 1. Watch the break down vid on RevZilla for more details on the difference between rev 2 and rev 1. Great ventilation but not as good as the GT Air supposedly. Better SHARP rating than the GT Air. Quiet as gently caress. The 1 piece neck roll with sinching chin curtain combined with the really nice gasket system is amazing. Almost certainly not safe for human ears at highway speeds but you can expect your helmet comms to sound great due to lack of background noise. Speaking of comms, that 1 piece neck roll means the out of the box Sena clamp and attached boom looked like butt. I got a different mount with a slack wire to feed into the helmet to correct that, and now it's fine. There is a Shark OEM Bluetooth thing but I had no cares to try it as I already had the SMH-10. Built in breath gaurd means shield and glasses fogging is minimal. Though I won't know if it's non existent until colder temps. So far much less than my old Bell Vortex where it was poo poo in warm weather and dangerous in cold. The only bitch I have with it is with all Shark helmets and it's their stupid slide for the slack on the d rings. It's hard to work with bare hands, and impossible for gloves on the occasion you put them on first. Bell does this right with a magnet. Others do this better with a snap. This little sleeve system they have sucks, but like anything else once you do it a few times you don't even notice it. Get the GT Air if you live in the desert and ventilation is top priority. Save $100 and get this instead if you live anywhere else.
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Halo_4am posted:Feature for feature with the GT-Air but $100 cheaper. Mind that it is the Series 2 Vision R, which has improved ventilation and refinement of the vent controls vs the series 1. Watch the break down vid on RevZilla for more details on the difference between rev 2 and rev 1. I definitely wanted to try on the Shark, but like literally the only place I could find them is on Revzilla and I didn't want to deal with mail-order try on. Re: RF-1200 and the Sena SMH-10, it requires a modicum of creativity to get it mounted cleanly. I basically followed this page: http://ocmoto.com/index.php?topic=31352.0 The cutting the plastic step doesn't really look like it does on this page, because the RF-1100 and 1200 appear to have different designs there. You have to cut a tiny "U" out of the plastic part of the neck roll, the part that slides up between the padding and shell, so the wires have somewhere to go when the neck roll is refitted. It goes in between two cutouts that help the neck roll stay put, so it's non-destructive and I haven't seen the neck roll try to come out at all. I have the brand newest SMH-10 that comes with the button mic option, so that makes it easier to wire it all cleanly. ShaneB fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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The one piece of gear I am missing right now are a good pair of riding pants. I'm looking at the cheaper stuff of Revzilla right now (mainly the ICON Brawnson and Device overpants) but was wondering if there were any good suggestions out there. I am more a fan of overpants as I commute to work, so it would be nice to take them off once I get to the lab. If anyone has good budget suggestions for pants, I'd love to hear it!
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Dr. Light posted:The one piece of gear I am missing right now are a good pair of riding pants. I'm looking at the cheaper stuff of Revzilla right now (mainly the ICON Brawnson and Device overpants) but was wondering if there were any good suggestions out there. I am more a fan of overpants as I commute to work, so it would be nice to take them off once I get to the lab. If anyone has good budget suggestions for pants, I'd love to hear it! I've had great luck with Tourmaster overpants. They aren't awesome in the heat (not much ventilation), but if it's not super hot where you are, call it 80F+, they should work great. They're surprisingly waterproof. I've worn them through winter, fall, and summer in Oregon. I also like the Rev'It Air, which are a mesh pant, for hot weather. I don't know your size, but NewEnough/Motorcycle Gear is having a sale on some Fieldsheer pants. http://www.motorcyclegear.com/street/closeouts/last_chance_bargains/fieldsheer/slip_on_textile_motorcycle_pants.html For people looking for gear, I recommend the MotorcycleGear.com folks. They're a small shop, but they tend to have some excellent deals on closeout stuff a few times a week. Sign up for their newsletter.
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Their newsletter is easily the best promotional email I receive. Consistently good deals, not too frequent, friendly folks and no BS. I literally cannot endorse them enough.
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Lynza posted:I've had great luck with Tourmaster overpants. They aren't awesome in the heat (not much ventilation), but if it's not super hot where you are, call it 80F+, they should work great. They're surprisingly waterproof. I've worn them through winter, fall, and summer in Oregon. Awesome - thanks for the input! I do love motorcyclegear.com, but I wanted to check for recommendations. The Tourmaster overpants sound good, and are probably the cheapest I've found with hip protection as well. I might have to go for that one. Thanks for the input!
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Got a chance to try out the Sena this weekend. Even by just sloppily throwing it in my helmet without using any of the tape I was impressed. It has a pretty amazing volume range, pairs quickly and consistently with my phone, and is easy to use with a glove on. Can't wait to get a new helmet and properly mount this thing.
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Kobayashi posted:Got a chance to try out the Sena this weekend. Even by just sloppily throwing it in my helmet without using any of the tape I was impressed. It has a pretty amazing volume range, pairs quickly and consistently with my phone, and is easy to use with a glove on. Can't wait to get a new helmet and properly mount this thing. I just did the same thing and was going to write an effort post review. I'll do it after breakfast
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Going boot shopping today after 3 years of not having any. Sidi, Alpinestars, and TCX are what I have to choose from. I'm liking the Sidi Cobras, but I'm liking the Alpinestars SMX-5 boots too. Anyone with experience in either? Going to pick up an HJC CL-17 as well, time to retire my CL-16. Can anyone here talk about the CL-17?
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BlackMK4 posted:I've been to The Helmet Center a few times ... Great guys over there and the staff is at like every local trackday.
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