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Wheany posted:i think it could be improved by having the characters also wipe into view from under the cursor, that would be really cool. also, have both the cursor move and the text appear at a constant speed, like 10 pixels per second. it's you! YOU! YOU'RE THE IDEAS GUY! GET HIM!!!
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Thank you for the great ideas fellows, I will forward them to the appropriate departments
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pram posted:Thank you for the great ideas fellows, I will forward them to the appropriate departments pram... i'm going to ask you a serious question here are you roz ho
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Blackula69 posted:this is what happens why you try to run that file apple: "what the gently caress is a microsoft? block this poorly-coded poo poo!" once again, tim is correct
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univbee posted:apple: "what the gently caress is a microsoft? block this poorly-coded poo poo!" more like microsoft: "gently caress paying apple to sign our installer package that's horseshit, our users are perfectly fine getting around the limitations WE put in to windows, surely mac users are too"
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Sniep posted:more like are you suggesting microsoft doesn't know its userbase or how they use computers?
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univbee posted:are you suggesting microsoft doesn't know its userbase or how they use computers? 
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to be fair, apple's updater on windows is just as poo poo. at least for me it never works. ninite updater has no problem updating itunes, but apple's own piece of poo poo always fails in updating their other piece of poo poo.
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univbee posted:are you suggesting microsoft doesn't know its userbase or how they use computers? with the amount of market research and user experience testing they do, the know very well how their userbase uses computers they just do not give a gently caress
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apple updater for windows has always done exactly what I wanted hth
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Cocoa Crispies posted:why are y'al even shocked that updates to a microsoft product require updates to the updater first, when was the last time they managed to ship a software update without requiring an updater update "Hey should we just make a very simple download system that sucks down OS X packages and bootstraps them?" "No, that would be insanity, we need support for X Y Z"
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Sniep posted:more like signing code doesn't actually cost money, like there are free software projects that have better OS X packages edit: err, doesn't cost money beyond having one person have a $100 developer account with Apple, you don't need to buy a certificate like you do for Windows Authenticode raruler fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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and since nobody was paying attention the first time, they already have an Apple Developer ID, it is required to publish to the iOS App Store
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qirex posted:office 2015: 
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pseudorandom name posted:and since nobody was paying attention the first time, they already have an Apple Developer ID, it is required to publish to the iOS App Store iirc you can't generate osx certs with a ios dev account but I haven't really tried isn't one note in the Mac App Store though?
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moar ribbon
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pram posted:moar ribbon the ribbon is legit good and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot i dont miss the toolbar soup not one bit
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holy poo poo. is this in 2010 excel too? I won't see my work PC until Monday but this could change my life
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:the ribbon is legit good and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot hmm nope
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:the ribbon is legit good and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot the ribbon is exactly as efficient as toolbars and menus but it introduced a huge switching cost so basically everyone had to re-learn the whole UI for no benefit
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qirex posted:the ribbon is exactly as efficient as toolbars and menus but it introduced a huge switching cost so basically everyone had to re-learn the whole UI for no benefit nah it's actually much quicker than mousing over a loving nested toolbar menus real pros were using keyboard shortcuts, if u bitched about menus changing u were a gui scrub
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Malcolm XML posted:nah it's actually much quicker than mousing over a loving nested toolbar menus hmm nope
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adding the ribbon to paint hosed IT really hard. seriously, gently caress ribbonized paint it is god awful
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mod sassinator posted:adding the ribbon to paint hosed IT really hard. seriously, gently caress ribbonized paint it is god awful yeah its overkill for paint/explorer but we're talking office here
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Malcolm XML posted:nah it's actually much quicker than mousing over a loving nested toolbar menus actually research funded by microsoft has shown it to be exactly as efficient as the old system
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look guys its not a standard toolbar ok. its teh ribban
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pram posted:look guys its not a standard toolbar ok. its teh ribban it is the ribbon though??
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qirex posted:actually research funded by microsoft has shown it to be exactly as efficient as the old system was this before or after u learned it cause if it's after, thats the point iirc the rationale was that it was quicker for new people to pick up regardless they are not bringing the ol' menu cascade back pram posted:the ribbon was so good they completely abandoned it microsoft: damned if they try something new, damned if they attempt to stick to ui conventions office for ipad is p great tho since iwork generally sux (except keynote)
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pram posted:see youre an idiot no u
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Malcolm XML posted:iirc the rationale was that it was quicker for new people to pick up seems more like change for the sake of change and a reason to keep a 100 person ux team employed for three years
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this is a theme in OWA 2010. 
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FMguru posted:except that after 2003 or so how many "new people" were there who were encountering office for the first time? especially compared to the number of people who had to re-learn all their workflow processes when it changed supposedly the primary motivator behind it was that they'd been getting feature requests for stuff office already did
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qirex posted:supposedly the primary motivator behind it was that they'd been getting feature requests for stuff office already did yeah i had heard that as well. granted i'm not sure the ribbon does a better job at showing where those features are than the toolbar did
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qirex posted:supposedly the primary motivator behind it was that they'd been getting feature requests for stuff office already did p much theyd add poo poo and it was buried under 5 layers of cascading menus if u want office and menus, stick to 2k3 or office xp which still owns o
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