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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:A good and proper LA doesn't lose health when they engage folks, they just die because someone else got the drop on them. People say that, and yet a lot of the best LA players in the game constantly run with medkits  http://www.twitch.tv/vonicvs You could watch this right now and get a good idea of how hard Medkits can own and how often they can keep you alive and in a fight. A moment ago he just got jumped by a guy and was able to reverse, jet around a corner into a gravity lift and mid-jump he pulled out a medkit and brought himself back from near death which kept him going long enough to circle back around and kill the guy. What I find even more interesting that I never noticed before was that he actually keeps his medkit out and ready as often as he's got his gun out. Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Medkits seem more.... selfish? Like they're better for when you're indoors or killwhoring a large fight as a lone wolf rather than trying to have an effect on the fight as a whole. I know I can't stand being unable to hurt tanks so ignoring them never feels like an option to me. I think it was way more of a difficult choice before regen implants happened, personally. E: Fart Car '97 posted:
That's the MLG way to pad your KPH stats with guns by never having them equipped unless you're shooting mans
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Aug 1, 2014 22:00
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Fart Car '97 posted:Of course you found yourself wishing you had C4 in these scenarios. Its the exact scenario where a Medkit isn't that useful: medium range firefights where you have a lot of time to plan your movement, plenty of time to disengage the moment things aren't looking good, and smaller fights where you're not likely to be surprised by someone. I will give that a try. Those CQC fights often have lots of MAXes wandering around, though. Do you just run away from them? Fart Car '97 posted:What I find even more interesting that I never noticed before was that he actually keeps his medkit out and ready as often as he's got his gun out. It's because he knows that his reflexes are too slow to return fire fast enough to survive. (I'm kidding. Can't watch the video right now but 99% chance he's just stat padding his carbine KPH, same as a ton of MLG BR100s out there.)
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Aug 1, 2014 22:03
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Blasmeister posted:
oh lol NihilCredo posted:I will give that a try. Those CQC fights often have lots of MAXes wandering around, though. Do you just run away from them? Yes. Spot them and let people with rockets deal with em. Half the time things are so hectic in CQC I often find that I'll wiff the C4 drop on the max simply because he turned and walked in another direction for a moment.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:05
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NihilCredo posted:(I'm kidding. Can't watch the video right now but 99% chance he's just stat padding his carbine KPH, same as a ton of MLG BR100s out there.) Vonic actually doesn't really do that as much as others. He runs around with his guns out more often than most. You'll see him pull out the medkit while jetpacking and that's because you're vulnerable while jetpacking. If you start getting shot you can survive by using a medkit versus just sitting there and taking it with your carbine out.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:18
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:A good and proper LA doesn't lose health when they engage folks, they just die because someone else got the drop on them. That's why medkit and nano weave are kind of useless, especially when you can carpet bomb groups and MAXes like some sort of jetpack-attached B2 Bomber with C4. This. If the enemy is firing back you're playing Light Assault wrong.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:19
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Fart Car '97 posted:People say that, and yet a lot of the best LA players in the game constantly run with medkits If thats vonic its also because he does stupid poo poo like solo tower stomps in a TR/NC fight or way behind enemy lines because in a big fight you tend to get killed more. I like my kdr and try to improve it but i dont go out of my way to pad that poo poo like crazy. If your avoiding big fights and farming small ones to pad your kdr you cant brag about your kdr. This is why i love AC, they're a DA that actively sticks they're dicks into bigger fights and you can totally feel it when your close to them. GOKU will be at a techplant and it will be going surprisingly easy then you look at the closest VS tag and its an AC. I've seen us lose fights because that DA squad isn't prioritizing the point back in the day but they've gotten better. It was the most infuriating thing to see allies who could easily hold that point with you but they didn't because they might get killed. Personally if your using 5 medkits in under 10 minutes you either care way to much about your kdr or your doing something wrong. Trying to fight 20-30 people solo is doing something wrong, if your good you can make it work but thats alot of effort when you could be with some allies killing the same amount of people without all the stress.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:21
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Sounds like you just aren't MLG enough to hack it, Arghy.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:29
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I personally feel that you should always have your Emergency C4 on you no matter what class you play. Never know when you might run into a TR tank zerg and exploit their refusal to look behind them.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:29
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Being alive is more important than maybe killing a max, hope this helps.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:34
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Fart Car '97 posted:Sounds like you just aren't MLG enough to hack it, Arghy. I'm already making a gamers resume and trying to get KV's attention with some naked photos, still waiting on vonics naked photos so i can shame him. M. L. G.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:40
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Being alive is more important than maybe killing a max, hope this helps. This. Medkits 4 life.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:41
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This just in, Planetside 2 has lots of different ways to outfit your characters for all different types of playstyles! Pretty cool feature by the devs, nice way to avoid j/oing over who has the best build. I don't play LA except running around as a NOVA shitter sometimes so I normally go on a really big streak or die, so medkits and C4 don't get much use from me.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:46
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As much as I love being a support class, nothing is as fun as ruining a tank's day with C4 as a LA. There's something wrong with me because my best infantry vs infantry weapon in terms of accuracy is a silenced solstice. I have a terminus, I have a NS-11C and A, and I do poorer with them. Also, even the Regen 2 implant seems ridiculously powerful if you're doing mid range fights with cover.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:50
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Being alive is more important than maybe killing a max, hope this helps. Screw that. Some of us know we're cannon fodder and killing that MAX is totally worth getting stupidly killed. (I am the kind of idiot to jihad jeeps and suicide engy rushes, life is fleeting, live for the nanites.)
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Aug 1, 2014 23:18
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Tempest_56 posted:Screw that. Some of us know we're cannon fodder and killing that MAX is totally worth getting stupidly killed. (I am the kind of idiot to jihad jeeps and suicide engy rushes, life is fleeting, live for the nanites.) LAs are not meant to live very long, that's why our ammo clips are so tiny!
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Aug 1, 2014 23:31
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Surely, having the same standardized amount of ammo as everyone else is a severe disadvantage to your class. Unless you're TR, then you're OP cause you have too much.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:33
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NihilCredo posted:I will give that a try. Those CQC fights often have lots of MAXes wandering around, though. Do you just run away from them? p.s. I wanna marry the Lynx. Is it wrong to love a carbine? ...Yes.
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Aug 2, 2014 00:48
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Nakar posted:p.s. I wanna marry the Lynx. Is it wrong to love a carbine? ...Yes. Isn't that the gun that TR literally hates and wants to trade for the GD-7F? Oh wait that's literally every TR gun. Ah, forumside. 
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Aug 2, 2014 01:36
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 lmbo I just killed six guys with a single Deci shot and then killed another three with an AV grenade right after which I think somehow caused my Recursion overlay to crash. 
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Gonkish posted:Isn't that the gun that TR literally hates and wants to trade for the GD-7F?
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Aug 2, 2014 02:50
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The Lynx and the Jaguar are loving amazing. I can only beat people who use them in a straight up CQC 1v1 if I either have the Carnage, GR-22 or the Gauss SAW. I need to get them on my TR alt once I'm done loving the TORQ.
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Aug 2, 2014 04:50
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The Lynx is a super-armistice, I only lose in CQC if the other guy has a shotgun. It's stupid how powerful that gun is and confirms my theory that bad players (TR) need good guns to stay competitive.
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Aug 2, 2014 04:55
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I think the only load out I use medkits on is my Medic that uses the regeneration field but I also use a regeneration implant so I rarely need to use a medkit. Hell, half the time I forget I'm carrying them and spend the twenty seconds hiding when I could have been right back in the fight. Is it generally agreed that med kits trump restoration kits? I've been told a fun room clearing technique on a Heavy is to run adrenaline shield with nanoweave and right before you run into the room you use a restoration kit so you'll be healing for the first few seconds when you run in. Klowns fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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Hajj Podge posted:The Lynx and the Jaguar are loving amazing. I can only beat people who use them in a straight up CQC 1v1 if I either have the Carnage, GR-22 or the Gauss SAW. I need to get them on my TR alt once I'm done loving the TORQ. The Jaguar may very well be the best overall carbine in the game. It does everything extremely well. If you want a mid-range carbine, you put a grip on it and it's great. If you want to be a hipfire hero, you slap a laser on that fucker and it's great. I think the only way you could possibly make the Jaguar bad is if you don't use it. The real kicker, though? It's only 250 certs.
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So, let's talk about Cyclone Heavies. What have we learned? They are pretty good. Is there anything that could potentially make them better? Like, overpowered beyond all reckoning better?  ...Oh no. Oh no. SOE, stop, you have no idea what you are about to do.  Like, I mean, the Betelgeuse will be a straight upgrade to the Orion, so it's probably one of the top three Auraxium variants. But the Tempest (and to a lesser extent, the Skorpios) will be a straight upgrade to the entire NC. God help us if anyone gets the Auraxium SMG Directive other than lovely useless Infiltrators or a handful of LAs, anyone who understands what this gun means. God loving help us all.
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Aug 2, 2014 05:54
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How many SMGs do you need to Aurax to get the special version, anyhow?
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Nakar posted:God help us if anyone gets the Auraxium SMG Directive other than lovely useless Infiltrators or a handful of LAs, anyone who understands what this gun means. God loving help us all.
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Aug 2, 2014 06:19
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Raxed my last carbine with the NS11c now i just gotta work on 3 AR's and 2 SMG's. The PDW/MKV is loving terrible and the eradani has that annoying loving rattle--i might just ignore the SMG directives if the aurax one has the same stupid rattle because there is no way to loving compensate for your bullets go to either side of your aim point. Is it true that my lasher aurax medal will need to be unlocked again? i thought it was a visual glitch that poo poo had better be unlocked for the directives i got nearly 1400 kills with it.
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Hey, I have some good news. Have you see the Auraxium Armistice?  I'm going to go Full Arghy here just this once. What the actual gently caress is SOE thinking giving experienced players these super guns? If they come with some kind of built-in handicap like a 3.4x on all the LMGs and ARs then I'm kind of OK with it but jesus loving christ this seems stupid.
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Auraxed my GD7F tonight, making it the first one I've managed to do so with. People say its a bad gun to use nowadays, but it still melts faces from close to medium. Helped clear up many of TR gal drops on Eisa tech.
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o muerte posted:Hey, I have some good news. Have you see the Auraxium Armistice? Seriously, the Auraxium variant SMGs are just... Jesus Christ. If you thought you hated fighting against the Orion and Cyclone before, just you wait.
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Broose posted:Auraxed my GD7F tonight, making it the first one I've managed to do so with. People say its a bad gun to use nowadays, but it still melts faces from close to medium. Helped clear up many of TR gal drops on Eisa tech. It's a "bad gun" in that there are better options now, like the cyclone. At launch with how the flinch mechanics worked, it was the best that we had. Now that flinch is fixed we got all sorts of choices.
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Nakar posted:Some of them seem balanced to a particular niche, like the Battle Rifles or Assault Rifles. The Carbines and Shotguns aren't things you'd automatically use either. But the LMGs and SMGs... they just seem like upgrades to the defaults, although how good that is does vary from weapon to weapon - the Betelgeuse probably gets more out of its +15 mag size than the other two do out of their +50 but they're still good, and the Tempest is nuts but the Shuriken and Skorpios look almost as bonkers. Yeah, I'm really disappointed by this implementation. The game needs things to bring various skill tiers in to balance - not more tools for MLG superspergs to farm more newbies.
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I don't know if the Tempest will be a straight upgrade - remember that in that picture it's being compared to a stock Cyclone. But every single Cyclone user actually runs SPA on it. For a SMG, improving the max-damage range shoud be a lot more valuable than improving minimum range, velocity and ADS accuracy. The Tempest will be way better as a carbine impostor, but I would predict that the regular Cyclone will still be the better SMG. Also, the Tempest can't equip IRNV. Roughly 75% of the time it won't matter but in those 25% of dark night fights you will dearly miss it. (But if you unlocked the Tempest you will certainly have a Cyclone to switch to, so I wouldn't count this as an actual drawback.)
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NihilCredo posted:I don't know if the Tempest will be a straight upgrade - remember that in that picture it's being compared to a stock Cyclone. But every single Cyclone user actually runs SPA on it. If only SOE released the loving stats of things then we could know for sure but NOPE! shits gotta stay in the dark.
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Aug 2, 2014 10:38
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Wait the eridani/PDW/sirius has literally the exact same accuracy stats yet the PDW has better horizontal and lower FSM and 5 more rounds compared to the eridani. TR/NC get a crazy loving murder machine for their 1st gen SMG while VS gets a lovely PDW? PDW http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/7494 Eridani http://stats.dasanfall.com/ps2/item/29000
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Aug 2, 2014 11:08
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"It's like someone else's gun, but worse somehow." is the VS trait, Arghy.
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Getting killed by a guy using a lasher while I'm jetpackin around. Light Assault life: live fast, die stupid.
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Yeah, 143 damage at 750 RPM sure makes a gun a lovely PDW. The Orion is just a lovely PDW with 20 more rounds!
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