|
 Splashing white for Graceful Antelope.
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 22:59
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 18:23 |
|
|
Sarcastro posted:Wouldn't it have been cool if at some point subsequently they'd printed a Flash creature with "whenever an opponent would draw a card, they draw seven cards instead"? Yeah, or maybe just give YOU the cards instead? Like some sort of thief of notions? That would be so cool, surely people would play it. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:05
|
|
|
They should make a creature with planeswalkerwalk.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:07
|
|
|
Ranpire posted:Yeah, or maybe just give YOU the cards instead? Like some sort of thief of notions? That would be so cool, surely people would play it. It definitely seems weird that Notion Thief has seen more play as an anti-Jace/Brainstorm card in legacy than an anti-Revelation card in standard.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:09
|
|
|
Ranpire posted:Yeah, or maybe just give YOU the cards instead? Like some sort of thief of notions? That would be so cool, surely people would play it. I am extremely skeptical that any kind of theoretical card could deal with Sphinx's Revelation, as we've seen it dominate time and time again with no resistance. If such a card did exist surely it would see play, considering the state of this UW menace.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:10
|
|
|
The real tragedy is that since Jund Walkers is such a good matchup, we'll have to deal with Ivan Floch playing a cool deck that takes a long time to win vs Jackson Cunningham, king idiot fucker that takes forever to decide if his wurm token is really going to die, representing nothing since his opponent has his goddamn deck list.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:12
|
|
|
Ableist Kinkshamer posted:It definitely seems weird that Notion Thief has seen more play as an anti-Jace/Brainstorm card in legacy than an anti-Revelation card in standard. I remember people trying it at an SCG Open shortly after Notion Thief came out. It didn't really do anything.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:14
|
|
|
Could Invoke the Firemind be reprinted to say "and"? Looking at Rakdos' return and Sphinx's revelation (and maybe debt to the deathless?), it seems like draw X cards, deal X damage wouldn't be too crazy. Bare minimum it could be creature only. I'm just sad that the card seems so bad... Also, is there a Black/blue card with the draw/discard X line? wondering how many cards have effects like this...
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:15
|
|
|
Minority Deport posted:I remember people trying it at an SCG Open shortly after Notion Thief came out. It didn't really do anything. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:18
|
|
|
How much did he get off that Notion Thief? 7?
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:25
|
|
|
Count Bleck posted:How much did he get off that Notion Thief? 7?
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:26
|
|
|
Count Bleck posted:How much did he get off that Notion Thief? 7? 3 off the Jace brainstorm, which drew him into a force to counter the guys hymn to tourach, allowing him to swords to ploweshares a Baleful Strix so his Notion Thief could attack and kill the Jace. Then with the second game pretty much in hand, he flashes one in off a brainstorm cast off a Shardless Agent cascade trigger
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:28
|
|
|
BizarroAzrael posted:And the other Sphinx's Revelations it draws. And the piles of degenerate combos like Quicken/sweeper it assembles with ease. I don't get this sentiment. UW control isn't even the best deck in standard.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:33
|
|
|
clamiam45 posted:I don't get this sentiment. UW control isn't even the best deck in standard. Most people hate it because you have to work for your wins, harder than most decks have to. Because usually the deck wipes the board once and starts to do its thing. Which is make sure you never stick another spell ever again and slowly kill you. It's not fun to play against unless you absolutely crush it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:39
|
|
|
Ranpire posted:Yeah, or maybe just give YOU the cards instead? Like some sort of thief of notions? That would be so cool, surely people would play it. Yeah, I know, but as long as I was imagining, I wanted to imagine something that didn't just steal the cards, but literally won you the game on the spot.
|
|
#
?
Aug 3, 2014 23:59
|
|
|
Oh, thank goodness, green white aggro pulls a second forest. Hopefully Cunningham can turn this right back around. edit: WOO! Go green white! Ramos fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Aug 4, 2014 |
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:04
|
|
|
And U/W will take this tournament.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:07
|
|
|
Ramos posted:Oh, thank goodness, green white aggro pulls a second forest. Hopefully Cunningham can turn this right back around.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:08
|
|
|
That semifinals was loving nuts. Too bad the finals is gonna be awful.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:08
|
|
|
I'll personally be rooting for Floch because I like him more as a person. He also plays his deck very quickly and efficiently, which is less offensive to me than an aggro player taking forever to make every single decision.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:08
|
|
|
YeehawMcKickass posted:And U/W will take this tournament. Yeah but the match will last until next morning, judging by the speed of the GW player.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:08
|
|
|
Congrats UW, I'm out for the day.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:11
|
|
|
Wow, this thread must be filled with black coffee, because it's bitter as hell.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:17
|
|
|
Don't get me wrong, I want G/W to win this. Roughly the only way he's going to pull it off is to resolve AND monstrosity a Fleecemane Lion.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:17
|
|
|
YeehawMcKickass posted:Don't get me wrong, I want G/W to win this. Roughly the only way he's going to pull it off is to resolve AND monstrosity a Fleecemane Lion. Genesis Hydra for 2. I don't think this deck is even running Genesis Hydra, unfortunately.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:20
|
|
|
There's no reason for him to run Genesis Hydra, he doesn't ramp mana like green devotion does. Anyway, it's going to be a difficult match for green white, but I think there's still a solid chance to pull off the win.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:21
|
|
|
U/W will probably take it down, but I'm fine with that. It's been awhile since an all-out control deck takes it, and I think Floch operates it about as fast as you can reasonably expect. My original rooting interest was Pat Cox on Brave Naya for the Washington DC representation.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:23
|
|
|
Too bad he doesn't have Dryad Militant over that Sunblade Elf.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:23
|
|
|
Lurchington posted:U/W will probably take it down, but I'm fine with that. It's been awhile since an all-out control deck takes it, and I think Floch operates it about as fast as you can reasonably expect. Floch plays pretty fast from what I've seen. This won't take all night.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:23
|
|
|
YeehawMcKickass posted:Floch plays pretty fast from what I've seen. This won't take all night. Its not that he plays slow, its that his deck has no win condition outside of his opponent conceding.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:28
|
|
|
I missed it, does this UW list have literally any way at all to deal with a monstrous Lion? I realize having 5 untapped lands and and lion in play is non-trivial, but having that sort of silver bullet is sorta hilarious.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:28
|
|
|
YeehawMcKickass posted:Floch plays pretty fast from what I've seen. This won't take all night.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:29
|
|
|
Boxman posted:I missed it, does this UW list have literally any way at all to deal with a monstrous Lion? I realize having 5 untapped lands and and lion in play is non-trivial, but having that sort of silver bullet is sorta hilarious. Azorius Charm and a ton of life gain.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:29
|
|
|
Boxman posted:I missed it, does this UW list have literally any way at all to deal with a monstrous Lion? I realize having 5 untapped lands and and lion in play is non-trivial, but having that sort of silver bullet is sorta hilarious. Nyx-Fleece Ram and counter every Ajani which could put a counter on. ShadeofBlue posted:Azorius Charm and a ton of life gain. Azorious Charm can't do anything to Lion.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:31
|
|
|
Actually one of the rarely discussed wincons in the deck is that your opponent might get hit by a meteor during the course of the match. Few other decks can play to that out.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:31
|
|
|
Angry Grimace posted:Nyx-Fleece Ram and counter every Ajani which could put a counter on. Yah I always forget the hexproof.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:33
|
|
|
Double Mana Confluence.  Granted, this won't really hurt all that bad against white blue.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:33
|
|
|
Hey stupid. You know what jace +1 does. Play faster.
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:35
|
|
|
I'm glad I've chosen to do other things today instead of watch whatever you guys are watching (Pro Tour?). 
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:36
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 18:23 |
|
|
mcmagic posted:Hey stupid. You know what jace +1 does. Play faster.  Cernunnos posted:I'm glad I've chosen to do other things today instead of watch whatever you guys are watching (Pro Tour?).
|
|
#
?
Aug 4, 2014 00:37
|
|