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Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

MikeJF posted:

Yeah I'm really hoping since they're doing the 'improve the Voyager' thing they'll take it as a time to improve all the series flagships. After all, from a marketing point of view, the Galaxy, Defiant, Intrepid and Sovereign CONSTITUTION should really be head of the pack here.

Fixed for you.

It's nice to dream...

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Hah, I was actually thinking about future expansion packs, and imagining an expansion pack where you can create TOS-era characters that exist on their own little independent bit of the game. There's a single mission chain like Legend of Romulus, no levels or tiers; finishing the mission chain unlocks the TOS-era endgame with its own STFs and gearing up runs.

Yoink the Droz Flashback interiors and K7 exterior for stations and stuff, make a downgraded old-timey spacedock interior for the expansion hub. They've already got a lot of the ships they'd need in game as low-tier things. Set it just after the launch of Excelsior, give us Mirandas, TOS Connies, Refits, Excelsiors, Rommie BoPs, D7s and Klingon BoPs...

It'd get around the whole CBS doesn't want old-era stuff mixing with new-era stuff problem.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Aug 4, 2014

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

MikeJF posted:

Yeah I'm really hoping since they're doing the 'improve the Voyager' thing they'll take it as a time to improve all the series flagships. After all, from a marketing point of view, the Galaxy, Defiant, Intrepid and Sovereign should really be head of the pack here.

By that logic, they should redo DS9 "just because"

Oh god please update DS9 just because :allears:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I very much doubt they'll update DS9 until the Cardassian/Dominion expansion.

Assuming that's expansion 3, that's when they'll probably update DS9 and revamp the horrendous cardie missions the way they did the Borg.

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
Didn't ds9 already have an update at some point?

Bit of an odd predicament now, most of my game time is spent grinding to equip my many alts with fancy space stuff. Knowing now that it won't be top of the line for long makes me want to stop while realizing that things need to move on at some point or everyone would quit.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Look for things that'll last, I guess. Hanger pets, set bonuses of worth, strong single things like the AOE Photon Torpedo from Dyson.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I just dropped a metric fuckload of Xindi kits in the bank, so hopefully they come in handy for people who just hit 50.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Cyberball 2072 posted:

Bit of an odd predicament now, most of my game time is spent grinding to equip my many alts with fancy space stuff. Knowing now that it won't be top of the line for long makes me want to stop while realizing that things need to move on at some point or everyone would quit.

Dil and marks. I'm sure the rep trees will be adjusted to give level 60 gear, earn your marks to pour into level 60 projects.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Hey, on a whim I decided to start playing STO again. Could I have access to the wesley guide, please? Username is SA_Gammatron.

MikeJF posted:

Hah, I was actually thinking about future expansion packs, and imagining an expansion pack where you can create TOS-era characters that exist on their own little independent bit of the game. There's a single mission chain like Legend of Romulus, no levels or tiers; finishing the mission chain unlocks the TOS-era endgame with its own STFs and gearing up runs.

Yoink the Droz Flashback interiors and K7 exterior for stations and stuff, make a downgraded old-timey spacedock interior for the expansion hub. They've already got a lot of the ships they'd need in game as low-tier things. Set it just after the launch of Excelsior, give us Mirandas, TOS Connies, Refits, Excelsiors, Rommie BoPs, D7s and Klingon BoPs...

It'd get around the whole CBS doesn't want old-era stuff mixing with new-era stuff problem.

If they did that, it would be cool if they added the Constellation class. I always figured it was out around the same time as the Connie refit and Miranda classes as it has the same nacelles. Also maybe have an endgame Oberth.

GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Aug 4, 2014

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.

Gammatron 64 posted:

If they did that, it would be cool if they added the Constellation class.

They have the model made, but they've yet to release it.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Cyberball 2072 posted:

Didn't ds9 already have an update at some point?

It did. It used to be the end game hub of the game. Which meant that every lunatic, tryhard, and person obsessed with the game or a specific series could be seen shrieking in zone chat about their complaint of the day there.

Then they switched away from the second end game system they had tried out to the reputation system. Pretty sure it's mostly dead nowadays.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
If these T6 ships are anything but T5.5 with the sci destroyer/vet ship mode switching as their special T6-only bonus I'll be surprised. Maybe they'll inflate the stats a little but if they do that there's no reason they can't tweak the lockbox/fleet ships the same way, as they did recently with the BoPs. Lore-wise it'd make sense too, building on the newer, prototype designs with that klank ship having aspects of the Mogh and sci destroyers in it's model.

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Gammatron 64 posted:

Hey, on a whim I decided to start playing STO again. Could I have access to the wesley guide, please? Username is SA_Gammatron.

You're in.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Korgan posted:

You're in.

Thanks, appreciate it!

I might reapply to Dental when I get a chance to play tomorrow but I'm pretty casual and might just be a waste of a spot in the fleet.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Gammatron 64 posted:

Thanks, appreciate it!

I might reapply to Dental when I get a chance to play tomorrow but I'm pretty casual and might just be a waste of a spot in the fleet.

Ahem, I think you might have the wrong idea about our attitude to internet spaceships. Nobody who plays this game for any amount of time takes anything too seriously. Welcome aboard!

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
Didn't you get the memo? We're a hardcore, STF raiding elite fleet now. You need 100k DPS to keep your spot and daily attendance to farm the Borg Queen in Hive is mandatory.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

CrushedWill posted:

Unless I'm missing something, there is no incentive for them to update past lockbox ships and every incentive for them to not offer an upgrade. Introduce a Galor T6, and all Galor T5 owners will get instawood to have the latest and greatest.

Those that don't pine for the upgrade are just taking up bandwidth.

Special Lockbox or Zen store item that's like the fleet upgrade module but can be applied to any Tier 5 ship.

Please paypal me my cut of this Cryptic, thanks.

andurilprime
Nov 4, 2009
Just getting back in the game now; haven't played it seriously since Dental first started the starbase construction projects. Where should I be jumping in to start again? Also, can I get access to the wiki, so I can puzzle out what the heck I should be doing with the changes to my characters since the last time I played? Username is SA_anduril

Thanks!

Oh yeah -- Lillith@andurilprime fedtac (working on my romtac)

andurilprime fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 4, 2014

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
Create a new RomTac. Join the KDF, raid the Feds, sell space blow, gently caress the space police.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Technical Analysis posted:

Create a new RomTac. Join the KDF, raid the Feds, sell space blow, gently caress the space police.

Don't forget the constant slaughter of Tribbles. Hearing their tepid cries, their furry bodies bouncing away as you bring out the slim hunting knife from it's sacred scabbard. You watch as they consume each other, feeding off their own until only the hungry are left. With their corpses you can build a temple of Gold Press Latinium, and with this temple you will finally be able to purchase your place among the Gods of Disco.

Tribble genocide, the Good War.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

DancingShade posted:

Ahem, I think you might have the wrong idea about our attitude to internet spaceships. Nobody who plays this game for any amount of time takes anything too seriously. Welcome aboard!

Okay, cool. I'm a level 50 Engineer with a Refit Soverign and Refit Excelsior but no Aux2bat setup yet. (Although I'll try to build them, soon.) I also have a Defiant, Galaxy and some assorted escorts \ science ships I might gently caress around with occasionally. I'm aware of how bad the Galaxy class is and how escorts\science ships are a bad match for an engineer, I probably only play them solo in story missions and stuff so I don't have to drag down a team. Hey man, the Defiant and Promethus are cool, sometimes you wanna play as them, you know?

I also have a 46 klank tactical and a 14ish romulan science officer. I like Romulans and I'd like to get one to 50, and I may have to do a feddie tactical officer because I like the federation the best but Engineer isn't as good as it used to be when I played.

Mostly though I came back because my roommate plays the game also and it has dino riders in it. And I just finished watching all of TOS, TNG and DS9 and need more Trek.

I need to take care of my parents' dog tonight so I won't have access to my computer and be able to join till tomorrow, though. I really need to invest in a laptop sometime.

GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Aug 4, 2014

Tactical Bonnet
Nov 5, 2005

You'd be distressed too if some pile of bones just told you your favorite hat was stupid.
Apparently, GoonTrek is dead.

Long Live TheNextGooneration?

Traa@Ansgrim, Klingon Tactical officer.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Burning_Monk posted:

Don't forget the constant slaughter of Tribbles. Hearing their tepid cries, their furry bodies bouncing away as you bring out the slim hunting knife from it's sacred scabbard. You watch as they consume each other, feeding off their own until only the hungry are left. With their corpses you can build a temple of Gold Press Latinium, and with this temple you will finally be able to purchase your place among the Gods of Disco.

Tribble genocide, the Good War.

Somewhere in the world Denu just broke out into a cold sweat and has no idea why.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Cold Storage

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


Atrayonis posted:

Also NPC races.




wait aren't they just the doctor who potato motherfuckers

DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime
If anyone hasn't been reading the TrekRadio scandal thread on the forums, you are missing out.

mustachemav posted:

well first off in my opinion, I have read this thread from top to bottom and found that there is way too much speculation for a 10 second snippet. You would have to be there to understand, and i was.

But that not withstanding, many things said here actually have nothing to do with the clip but more on how devs react to, or lack there of, the community.

Some get it, some don't. Some here are spot on and some are way off base as it pertains to the clip comment. And some people here are also venting their opinions on dev / community interaction.

Simply put focusing on the clip that should never have been is a waste of time imo, but if it fuels debate and makes for fun forum times, then let loose.

Cheers


This was written by the "Marketing and Communications" manager at Trek Radio. Watch what happens after a few more pages:

mustachemav posted:

To the the viewing and listening audience,

This situation has already been resolved with Cryptic and all parties involved.

We apologize to the listening and viewing community for the use of foul language on the livestream and subsequent on demand content.

We thank you for listening and watching our coverage of the STO Dev panel at the 2014 Las Vegas Convention.

Tom "Maverick" Cruz
Marketing & Communications Manager
TrekRadio.net

Thanks for manning up, Trek Radio, we knew you'd all come around eventually. loving lol.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Maybe link the clip instead of posting a bunch of words about a thing no one probably knows about?

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Gammatron 64 posted:

Okay, cool. I'm a level 50 Engineer with a Refit Soverign and Refit Excelsior but no Aux2bat setup yet. (Although I'll try to build them, soon.) I also have a Defiant, Galaxy and some assorted escorts \ science ships I might gently caress around with occasionally. I'm aware of how bad the Galaxy class is and how escorts\science ships are a bad match for an engineer, I probably only play them solo in story missions and stuff so I don't have to drag down a team. Hey man, the Defiant and Promethus are cool, sometimes you wanna play as them, you know?
Don't worry too much about this. Mudflation and the fact that most STO players don't know how to fit a ship means that a lot of goons could solo many of the space STFs. No one will care if we have to carry you.

quote:

I also have a 46 klank tactical and a 14ish romulan science officer. I like Romulans and I'd like to get one to 50, and I may have to do a feddie tactical officer because I like the federation the best but Engineer isn't as good as it used to be when I played.
Definitely work on a Romulan. If you really want to be over-powered, ditch the sci and start a Romulan Tac officer. But honestly it's been so long since they've done a balance pass on the STFs that you can play whatever you want and still destroy most end-game content.

DAVE!!!(c)(tm)
Feb 22, 2003

Mondian posted:

Maybe link the clip instead of posting a bunch of words about a thing no one probably knows about?

I started reading that thread yesterday and they had already taken down the clip and disabled their stream library.
http://www.livestream.com/trekradiotv/video?clipId=pla_8d4c152e-a913-4ea3-ae97-4e182830bfbc&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

It devolved pretty rapidly into an argument of whether or not it was okay to treat the Devs like poo poo.

Here's the link again:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1185461

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Sooooo what exactly was said that's making pubbies mad? Thread only mentions vague swearing.

DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime

Mondian posted:

Maybe link the clip instead of posting a bunch of words about a thing no one probably knows about?

Pretty sure a lot of people know about this, as it's been on the thread/mumble for for awhile now, and it's been linked before.

But to recap: Some Trek radio DJ said "gently caress AL" on their convention livestream, not knowing the mic was on(referring to Gecko -- they were pissed Priority One got a shout out and not them) and I blew it out of proportion on the forums to the point that Trek radio had to make an apology to the forums and the Cryptic devs.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1185461

Edit: Sorry, I forgot they removed that video to avoid embarrassment, but I uploaded a backup to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UM_I1y_UY

The video itself is really no big deal, but the drama we got out of it was great.

DonDoodles fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Aug 5, 2014

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

Game with sperglord playerbase has sperglord podcasters.

Who knew

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
For everyone coming back after a long hiatus take note that the base level of excitement related to this game is so low that the above passes for drama, excitement, and entertainment. We really should all quit and take up wood carving or something.

"Some Trek radio DJ said "gently caress AL" on their convention livestream, not knowing the mic was on(referring to Gecko -- they were pissed Priority One got a shout out and not them) and I blew it out of proportion on the forums"

That is the peak of fun to be had in STO. loving think about how lame that paragraph is and how lame that means the actual game is. Anyone that ever had an STO account should feel at least a twinge of embarrassment and shame for having a connection to any of this.

Cyberball 2072 fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Aug 5, 2014

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

I would but in order to carve anything decent I have to wait 4 months or pay money :v:

Dingdong914
Jul 31, 2014

DonDoodles posted:

Pretty sure a lot of people know about this, as it's been on the thread/mumble for for awhile now, and it's been linked before.

But to recap: Some Trek radio DJ said "gently caress AL" on their convention livestream, not knowing the mic was on(referring to Gecko -- they were pissed Priority One got a shout out and not them) and I blew it out of proportion on the forums to the point that Trek radio had to make an apology to the forums and the Cryptic devs.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1185461

Edit: Sorry, I forgot they removed that video to avoid embarrassment, but I uploaded a backup to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UM_I1y_UY

The video itself is really no big deal, but the drama we got out of it was great.

I for one enjoy your work. :munch:

DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime

Cyberball 2072 posted:

For everyone coming back after a long hiatus take note that the base level of excitement related to this game is so low that the above passes for drama, excitement, and entertainment. We really should all quit and take up wood carving or something.

"Some Trek radio DJ said "gently caress AL" on their convention livestream, not knowing the mic was on(referring to Gecko -- they were pissed Priority One got a shout out and not them) and I blew it out of proportion on the forums"

That is the peak of fun to be had in STO. loving think about how lame that paragraph is and how lame that means the actual game is. Anyone that ever had an STO account should feel at least a twinge of embarrassment and shame for having a connection to any of this.

We work with what we have, and, admittedly, it's not nearly as good as it once was. Trek Radio is a poo poo station that hires literal pedophiles as DJs, so I was after a little public embarrassment (succeeded). Pubbies flip the gently caress out when anyone says something nice about Gecko, so there were plenty of tears. Add the usual "loving Dental thread" responses, and that's about as good as you can do on the forums when Old Khemaraa isn't sending out legal threats.

DonDoodles fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Aug 5, 2014

DAVE!!!(c)(tm)
Feb 22, 2003

Cyberball 2072 posted:

We really should all quit and take up wood carving or something.


I have taken up wood carving. It's just that pubbie tears are a fun side hobby.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

Figure 2 in a series of 3
I dont know, it seems pretty whitebread as far as drama goes. new marquisnoir chatlogs would be immensely more entertaining and require a hell of a lot less legwork (both for you and for the readers of this thread)

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Cyberball 2072 posted:

For everyone coming back after a long hiatus take note that the base level of excitement related to this game is so low that the above passes for drama, excitement, and entertainment. We really should all quit and take up wood carving or something.

"Some Trek radio DJ said "gently caress AL" on their convention livestream, not knowing the mic was on(referring to Gecko -- they were pissed Priority One got a shout out and not them) and I blew it out of proportion on the forums"

That is the peak of fun to be had in STO. loving think about how lame that paragraph is and how lame that means the actual game is. Anyone that ever had an STO account should feel at least a twinge of embarrassment and shame for having a connection to any of this.

And yet this is still more entertaining to read about than "serious" video games I would actually have to pay money to play.

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DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime

Melchior posted:

I dont know, it seems pretty whitebread as far as drama goes. new marquisnoir chatlogs would be immensely more entertaining and require a hell of a lot less legwork (both for you and for the readers of this thread)

If you want marquisnoir logs then knock yourself out: http://pastebin.com/fR84Qvaa

All from the last two or three days. Trying to keep everyone happy here.

quote:

[Local] Mecredi Addams@marquisnoir: lost your ego, it is in the bloodwine urinal pool

quote:

[Zone] Mecredi Addams@marquisnoir: there must be a german word for the type of idiot nbreeki is

random pubbie posted:

[Zone] Avarak@Captain_Thompson: on my final note, i would just like to say that no matter what you guys do, your reputation will never change.. you are griefing assholes that 90% of STO players hate.. so, yeah.. good luck changing

DonDoodles fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Aug 5, 2014

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