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I'm going to assume they gambled with Dead Souls purely because Zombies Are Popular, Right Guys? 
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Im honestly shocked that we even got that many. I got hooked on Yakuza 2, from that I bought Yakuza 3 and played through it. I came to the conclusion that Yakuza 3 sucked, and it kept me from buying Yakuza 4 until recently. But then again, I mainly play these games for their story, and Yakuza 3 had a story that took forever to get anywhere, and then when it did, they explained the whole story in a plot dump.
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Jul 17, 2014 09:16
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Yeah but gamers say Heavy Rain is a good story, so writing quality isn't really a concern when localizing a game. I've seen tons of people say Yakuza 3 had the best story in the series. (Much to my bewilderment)
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Jul 17, 2014 09:20
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Croccers posted:I'm going to assume they gambled with Dead Souls purely because Zombies Are Popular, Right Guys?
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Jul 17, 2014 09:20
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, and to test the waters for Binary Domain probably.
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Jul 17, 2014 09:28
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TechnoSyndrome posted:Yeah but gamers say Heavy Rain is a good story, so writing quality isn't really a concern when localizing a game. I've seen tons of people say Yakuza 3 had the best story in the series. (Much to my bewilderment) Which is loving odd, because barely anything happens of note until you get invited to speak to the Diet office. Thats pretty much when they tell you the whole entire plot line for the whole game. I honestly got to the last chapter and didn't realize that it was the end of the game because I was expecting more.
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Jul 17, 2014 09:30
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Croccers posted:Binary Domain came out before localized Dead Souls though. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's why they MADE Dead Souls, but I guess not why they localized it.
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Jul 17, 2014 09:30
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Croccers posted:Binary Domain came out before localized Dead Souls though. It was less than a month between them, from what I remember, or thereabouts also.
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Jul 17, 2014 09:47
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Yeah, not really enough time to test the waters. JPN Dead Souls might of laid the foundation for Binary Domain but neither seemed to have an effect on localization itself. Considering how closely they were released I'm betting they were translated around the same time.
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Jul 17, 2014 10:04
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Samurai Sanders posted:I am not normally one to say that things in marketing are simple but this time I think they are: Yakuza games are stupid expensive to localize, and leaving aside the beatemup gameplay, the content is very Japan-specific and doesn't appeal to enough people out here. Whoever did got totally owned because it sold quite poorly. Croccers posted:I'm going to assume they gambled with Dead Souls purely because Zombies Are Popular, Right Guys? It was a shooter instead of pure JRPG. That's about all the justification that's necessary in my mind.
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Jul 18, 2014 00:33
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blackguy32 posted:Im honestly shocked that we even got that many. I got hooked on Yakuza 2, from that I bought Yakuza 3 and played through it. I came to the conclusion that Yakuza 3 sucked, and it kept me from buying Yakuza 4 until recently. But then again, I mainly play these games for their story, and Yakuza 3 had a story that took forever to get anywhere, and then when it did, they explained the whole story in a plot dump. I liked the story in Yakuza 4, particularly the side stories for each of the characters. Akiyama's interactions with his clients are some of the best moments in the game for me, and it kind of boggles my mind that they are completely optional.
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Jul 18, 2014 01:49
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Quiet Python posted:I liked the story in Yakuza 4, particularly the side stories for each of the characters. Akiyama's interactions with his clients are some of the best moments in the game for me, and it kind of boggles my mind that they are completely optional. Yakuza 4 had an amazing story. I loved it
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Jul 18, 2014 03:18
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blackguy32 posted:Which is loving odd, because barely anything happens of note until you get invited to speak to the Diet office. Thats pretty much when they tell you the whole entire plot line for the whole game. I honestly got to the last chapter and didn't realize that it was the end of the game because I was expecting more. I actually liked Yakuza 3 story and didn't mind the slow start. Then again, my favorite part about the series is just doing kind of a themepark workaround while beating various thugs into submission and visiting the stupid stores. That said, I did like Okinawa and the beach even though not much happened. It was certainly no Yakuza 2 or 4, but still very good.
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Jul 18, 2014 03:46
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Policenaut posted:A big problem is not so much getting a game translated and put out onto discs and/or the PSN, but rather the fact that most localizations require the original development team (in some capacity) to be present to recreate the game with said localization. Sega of America localizes the game then sends it to Team Yakuza who then rebuilds the game with their work, and apparently Nagoshi really wanted to go make Yakuza: Samurai JRPG of a Million Features instead of stick around with Yakuza 5. You know that ISHIN and 5 aren't on the table because Nagoshi and Team Yakuza are already balls deep in on another game. At the same other companies managed to figure it out somehow. Look at Atelier series, look at Tales recently, etc... It all can be done if the game is designed with localization in mind. The problem is that neither Yakuza team nor SEGA couldn't be bothered even though their home market is shrinking and the rest of the world is growing in importance even to other Japanese publishers (hey there MGS). If Nippon Ichi can manage to get their yearly Neptunia games translated while doing other poo poo at the same time, there is no excuse. And yes, I realize that average Yakuza game has a lot more script then Neptunia (not sure how much text is there) but Atelier and Tales have decent amount of storyline to translate.
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Jul 18, 2014 03:51
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Good news, the yakuza are getting translated into English after all! 
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Jul 21, 2014 14:57
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Actual Yakuza organizations are more internationally minded than SEGA.  oblomov posted:At the same other companies managed to figure it out somehow. Look at Atelier series, look at Tales recently, etc... It all can be done if the game is designed with localization in mind. The problem is that neither Yakuza team nor SEGA couldn't be bothered even though their home market is shrinking and the rest of the world is growing in importance even to other Japanese publishers (hey there MGS). If Nippon Ichi can manage to get their yearly Neptunia games translated while doing other poo poo at the same time, there is no excuse. And yes, I realize that average Yakuza game has a lot more script then Neptunia (not sure how much text is there) but Atelier and Tales have decent amount of storyline to translate. Let's not pretend people weren't praying for miracles out of Bamco until Graces F showed them that people outside of Europe wanted good Tales games. SEGA wasn't the only company afraid that their own efforts would be wasted, it just currently the only company that apparently can't do anything to remedy this because its Western branch is deader than Dead Souls.
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Jul 21, 2014 15:21
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Crabtree posted:Actual Yakuza organizations are more internationally minded than SEGA. They may pull a Capcom and just give up on us like what they did with the Gundam VS series.
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Jul 22, 2014 06:19
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Who's ready to do this poo poo again? The newest Yakuza title will be unveiled on August 24th. From what I can gather, only the game's title and "visual" will be revealed, and the rest is presumably coming to Tokyo Game Show the following month. Could it be a new PS3 game? Is Team Yakuza making the jump to PS4? Or is this that weird Vita game they said they were making like 2 years ago and haven't brought up. Oh, and Atlus reps met with Sega and Nagoshi to talk about their title line-up over the next three years and possible collaborations. So, anyone import ISHIN! yet? I'm probably going to plunk down the cash because holy poo poo the game is only $40 used now for PS4 on eBay.
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Aug 4, 2014 10:41
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Policenaut posted:So, anyone import ISHIN! yet? I'm probably going to plunk down the cash because holy poo poo the game is only $40 used now for PS4 on eBay.
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Aug 4, 2014 16:37
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Yeah, I thought the different weapons and the dungeon minigame threw off the combat balance a bit too much. It's just too easy to sit back with a gun that hits multiple targets and jam on the fire button in most situations. I enjoyed the story though, and they came up with some very cool set pieces. Speaking of combat balance, I still need to do the RGG5 Amon fight. Urghhhh.
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Aug 4, 2014 16:52
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uiruki posted:Yeah, I thought the different weapons and the dungeon minigame threw off the combat balance a bit too much. It's just too easy to sit back with a gun that hits multiple targets and jam on the fire button in most situations. I enjoyed the story though, and they came up with some very cool set pieces. The single sword is by far the most powerful style in my opinion. Real easy to guard/counter anyone who attacks you and you can do a lot of damage, especially when you start doing a lot of quests and getting exotic swords.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:43
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Policenaut posted:Who's ready to do this poo poo again? Probably a Persona tie in. Remember, SEGA like Capcom has given up on the west completely and made sure anyone who tries to follow be punished for being a international fan.
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Aug 7, 2014 06:43
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So what was the plot of 5? How does it stack up to previous entries? What happens to the major characters?
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Aug 7, 2014 09:42
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Cyra posted:So what was the plot of 5? How does it stack up to previous entries? What happens to the major characters?
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Aug 7, 2014 17:04
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yep, I played through Ishin. I don't think it's one of the best games in the series (among other things, the gunplay part of it is just hosed and no fun at all) but it's still Yakuza and there are still lots of street thugs who need justice inflicted on them. Yeah, I got a copy for $50 including fast shipping for PS4. Probably won't start for a while though. I still think Sega is just leaving money on the table, especially on PS4, but Sega is going to Sega.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:10
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Samurai Sanders posted:The theme of 5 is "dreams". Haruka wants to be an idol, Kiryu wants a life away from crime, the new guy Shinada wants back into pro baseball, and so on. It's way different than the previous ones, and has no real connection to anything else, but I really liked it. Isn't Kiryu some tazi driver now as well or something?
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Aug 7, 2014 17:13
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Crabtree posted:Isn't Kiryu some tazi driver now as well or something?
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Aug 7, 2014 17:17
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, that's the job he works to stay away from crime, and send money back to the orphanage. He just drives a taxi for the entire game and never gets in fights with gangsters or anything. I thought we were beyond Yakuza 4 at this point! 
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Aug 7, 2014 17:25
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, that's the job he works to stay away from crime, and send money back to the orphanage. He just drives a taxi for the entire game and never gets in fights with gangsters or anything. Sega does own the rights to Crazy Taxi, and they did put A Car in a fighting game before. You could make a super interesting Yakuza game without taking him out from behind the wheel.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:27
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What happens to Majima in Yakuza 5?
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Aug 7, 2014 17:45
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Skeezy posted:What happens to Majima in Yakuza 5? edit: you know what is always interesting to me about the Yakuza series? It's pretty drat nationalist, and lots of nationalists in Japan hate Koreans, but Koreans often feature prominently and sympathetically in the games, especially 5. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Aug 7, 2014 17:47
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Samurai Sanders posted:Not to him directly, but Haruka's manager, Mirei Park, is his ex-wife, so he kind of gets sucked into that So where does that newspaper article about Majima getting killed come in? I seem to remember someone posting that in relation to Yakuza 5.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:54
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Skeezy posted:So where does that newspaper article about Majima getting killed come in?
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Aug 7, 2014 17:56
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Samurai Sanders posted:My memory is a bit dim but I think that was just a reason to link the story to Mirei, and to not have him appear in most of the game. Oh wow so Majima isn't really in the game? That's a drat shame.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:58
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I dunno if this was posted before or is helpful in anyway, but I saw this playlist of Yakuza's 5 cutscenes subbed in English that goes halfway through before stopping suddenly. I dunno if it's good translations but I figured it might be interesting for some people?
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Aug 7, 2014 18:03
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Skeezy posted:Oh wow so Majima isn't really in the game? That's a drat shame.
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Aug 7, 2014 18:11
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gyrobot posted:More like angry and bitter at how crap from NISA and XSEED keeps coming over here while good games like Yakuza and SB4 isn't because Capcom and SEGA are more sensitive to the opinions of Journalism than the pedo pandering crap from Compile Heart who can live on the wallets of a tall fandom. This is hands-down the most incomprehensibly awful argument I have ever seen someone make on these forums. Is there some corner of the internet where these insane and completely unsubstantiated assumptions you're making are accepted as common knowledge?
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Aug 7, 2014 21:23
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MacGyvers_Mullet posted:This is hands-down the most incomprehensibly awful argument I have ever seen someone make on these forums. Is there some corner of the internet where these insane and completely unsubstantiated assumptions you're making are accepted as common knowledge? Don't worry about it too much. It's well established by now the gyrobot is some kind of conspiracy theorist.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:35
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Ryoga posted:Don't worry about it too much. It's well established by now the gyrobot is some kind of conspiracy theorist. I consider myself a spiteful NISA and Compile Heart hater in whom to focus my hate on. And most former fans of Japanese pop culture often take it out on creepy fandoms to be honest. I wish I still had that quote from some guy who talks about Japan's lovely tastes.
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gyrobot posted:I consider myself a spiteful NISA and Compile Heart hater in whom to focus my hate on. I consider you a loving idiot, because that's what you are.
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