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Cool Cherry Cream posted:I've always wondered how those benign Pay Day Loan commercials worked and how they were probably scams. And now I know thanks John! It's still an issue that needs to be brought up, this is a another way to keep the poor in an endless debt cycle, while skirting regulation with the most bullshit ways. Besides, I feel it was all worth it for the line "I call dingo".
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Part of me suspects he actually just read them. Maybe he's studying up for a piece on how 50 Shades of Grey is the world's most profitable plagiarized fanfic.
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BigRed0427 posted:Oh, THAT'S what Money Mutual is. Before Sarah Silverman showed up I was hoping that Oliver would have gotten Maury Povich or Sally Jesse Raphael for that bit.
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Aug 11, 2014 20:06
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Okay, it was bound to happen. That was the first celebrity cameo I wasn't thrilled with. They should have gotten a daytime talk or game show host.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:14
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So disappointed he didn't bring up Dat fine print!
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Was this the first episode without an "And now....this" segment? Also, rieslings are delicious. 
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Brock Samson posted:So disappointed he didn't bring up Didn't he? I swear I remember him mentioning somebody were reincorporating on a reservation to avoid regulation.
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ultramiraculous posted:Didn't he? I swear I remember him mentioning somebody were reincorporating on a reservation to avoid regulation. Not sure but I think it was the other fine print in reference.
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A A 2 3 5 8 K posted:Stewart lives for the criticism of media and politics and puts it above celebrity interviews. I read a profile of him a while ago that talked about how his office has banks of DVRs to record all the news shows and he's glued to them with his staff for hours each day. A network job would bore Stewart. This is from a few pages back but I find this a really interesting thing to know about.
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ultramiraculous posted:Didn't he? I swear I remember him mentioning somebody were reincorporating on a reservation to avoid regulation. Not that specific company with that huge loan and repayment, that I always see commercials for.
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Cool Cherry Cream posted:I've always wondered how those benign Pay Day Loan commercials worked and how they were probably scams. And now I know thanks John! I'm surprised they talked about payday loans and NA tribe affiliations and didn't mention Western Sky, aka the guys whose commercials basically say "Yeah, if you use us we're gonna gently caress you and gently caress you hard, but you probably need us so what're you gonna do."
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If anyone lives in the Boston area he is doing standup here on December 30th.
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I really hope his extended segment this Sunday is on what's happening in Ferguson. It fits the qualifier of "barely noticed by MSM"! *weeps*
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raditts posted:I'm surprised they talked about payday loans and NA tribe affiliations and didn't mention Western Sky, aka the guys whose commercials basically say "Yeah, if you use us we're gonna gently caress you and gently caress you hard, but you probably need us so what're you gonna do." I believe Western Sky was actually one of the few payday loan places that actually got taken down. That's how bad they were.
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uublog posted:Ferguson. It fits the qualifier of "barely noticed by MSM"! *weeps* Uh, what?
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blue squares posted:Uh, what? That post was two days ago, while there was still practically a media blackout.
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I did some research and Western Sky shut down last year because they basically got sued out of existence. They tried to say that literally NO laws other than that of their tribal council applied to them. Turns out that the Federal government and quite a few states don't take kindly to someone declaring themselves above the law!
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Max22 posted:That post was two days ago, while there was still practically a media blackout. It's really strange how so many networks had like a delayed reaction it whatever to anything out of the ordinary going on there. I know it's literally been declared a war zone and they're not really letting anyone close, but still.
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uublog posted:I really hope his extended segment this Sunday is on what's happening in Ferguson. It fits the qualifier of "barely noticed by MSM"! *weeps* Looks like you got your wish.
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I was sort of disappointed by the Ferguson coverage in that he seemed to completely gloss over any actual violence (like the gassings, LRADs, wooden bullets) and just focused on TANKS DUDE. The sort of police violence happening there is scary and isn't really particularly related to militarisation, which ended up being the main thrust of the episode.
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Christ, I love this episode and John isn't even through with this Ferguson bit. How would I got about watching that weird, over-the-top Crimea celebration online? Can't find anything outside of celebrations about the referendum on YouTube.
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Lancelot posted:I was sort of disappointed by the Ferguson coverage in that he seemed to completely gloss over any actual violence (like the gassings, LRADs, wooden bullets) and just focused on TANKS DUDE. The sort of police violence happening there is scary and isn't really particularly related to militarisation, which ended up being the main thrust of the episode. I think he just wanted to get some attention on the generalized, nation-wide problem rather than really delving into the specifics of Ferguson. He also only very lightly touched on the racial component of the situation, which I think is much bigger and more serious in the country as a whole (or big chunks of it, anyway) than anyone wants to talk about.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:How would I got about watching that weird, over-the-top Crimea celebration online? Can't find anything outside of celebrations about the referendum on YouTube.
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Lancelot posted:I was sort of disappointed by the Ferguson coverage in that he seemed to completely gloss over any actual violence (like the gassings, LRADs, wooden bullets) and just focused on TANKS DUDE. The sort of police violence happening there is scary and isn't really particularly related to militarisation, which ended up being the main thrust of the episode. They also forgot to talk about how they're keeping reports from filming what they're going during the riots and taking cameras and footage.
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No.1 Special posted:They also forgot to talk about how they're keeping reports from filming what they're going during the riots and taking cameras and footage. Instead of talking about what they forgot, examine the facts that a) you're obviously informed about it already, b) it's not this shows job to inform people about what you think they should be informed about and c) it's a comedy show and perhaps there's not a lot of humor to squeeze from that particular topic. (Like racism in ferguson, the conflict in gaza, or journalists being hassled.)
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Lancelot posted:I was sort of disappointed by the Ferguson coverage in that he seemed to completely gloss over any actual violence (like the gassings, LRADs, wooden bullets) and just focused on TANKS DUDE. The sort of police violence happening there is scary and isn't really particularly related to militarisation, which ended up being the main thrust of the episode. I think this was because it's clearly far from over. Last night was the worst they've seen yet. Of course, that only makes it harder to wait three weeks until the next episode... The equal wage segment was even more on point, IMO. It's incredible to me that instead of addressing an issue and how to resolve it, news networks think that they can just recalculate it into a non-issue (they can, because Oliver's the only one I've seen call them on their bullshit, so it was apparently working until now)
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Brock Samson posted:So disappointed he didn't bring up I prefer losing all my money at indian casinos.
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Lancelot posted:I was sort of disappointed by the Ferguson coverage in that he seemed to completely gloss over any actual violence (like the gassings, LRADs, wooden bullets) and just focused on TANKS DUDE. The sort of police violence happening there is scary and isn't really particularly related to militarisation, which ended up being the main thrust of the episode. All the things you named is a symptom of the militarization of police, and the militarization of the police is a symptom of the increased will to use violence/fear from the constituency. If you have tanks, APCs and tear gas launchers and SWAT-teams and Apache attack helicopters the hurdle to use these is very, very low. And the more this stuff is there the more it will get used. The more you fear the people you are there to serve and protect the more you want military grade poo poo to keep them down.
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One significant detail he did point out is that you only get these military vehicles if you use them within a certain timeframe. I get that one would want to have applicants actually prove that they have necessity for the equipment they're looking to acquire, but not tying that proof of necessity to anything outside of "did you use it at all?" is pretty stupid. /ninjaedit: To clarify, as an unwashed hipster from the socialist hellscape that is europe, I don't see any necessity in general for the type of hardware sold off to police forces at all, but not even checking what they might need it for is exuberantly stupid as opposed to giving it to them to execute search warrants and such, which is "just stupid". Duzzy Funlop fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:To clarify, as an unwashed hipster from the socialist hellscape that is europe, I don't see any necessity in general for the type of hardware sold off to police forces at all, but not even checking what they might need it for is exuberantly stupid as opposed to giving it to them to execute search warrants and such, which is "just stupid". Oh, that's because there isn't one at all. I don't know what any of this poo poo is supposed to be for besides loving with minorities. At least the drug bust excuse had some relation to reality, even if it'd be overkill for most raids. No one needs an APC that takes up three lanes of traffic for any police action, even if a terrorist just blew up a bomb somewhere down the street. It just doesn't make any sense.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:The Army has thousands of them and absolutely no use for them they just want to get rid of them so they don't have to pay maintenance costs. Yeah, they're being given away to police departments for free under some programs. In some cases it's because departments are going 'well, we can buy an appropriate large enforcement vehicle for half a million dollars, or we can get this army beast for nothing' and going with the cheaper option.
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, they're being given away to police departments for free under some programs. In some cases it's because departments are going 'well, we can buy an appropriate large enforcement vehicle for half a million dollars, or we can get this army beast for nothing' and going with the cheaper option. My department got one about a month ago, and so far all it's been used for is being in the Fourth of July parade and for various department heads to take it joyriding through the streets.
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No.1 Special posted:They also forgot to talk about how they're keeping reports from filming what they're going during the riots and taking cameras and footage. If only the technology to live stream video existed, we'd have definitive proof of
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Irish Joe posted:If only the technology to live stream video existed, we'd have definitive proof of Because journalist have only been treated with respect.
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Those links all reference journalists who were arrested for ignoring curfew and police instructions during a declared State of Emergency, which sounds perfectly reasonable because owning a camera and a vest that says "Press" is not license to violate the law.
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Irish Joe posted:Those links all reference journalists who were arrested for ignoring curfew and police instructions during a declared State of Emergency, which sounds perfectly reasonable because owning a camera and a vest that says "Press" is not license to violate the law. ...and the home of the brave....
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Reminder: It's Irish Joe. He is to serious posting as Fox is to serious news.
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