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Burning_Monk: Jan 11, 2005; Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

MoraleHazard posted:

Are doing the duty officer assignments and R&D worthwhile or are they kind of pointless?

And thanks very much for the Wesley wiki. The advice of "don't mix beams and cannons" makes a lot of sense, but when you get your free ship at LCDR, what does the ship default with? Beams and Cannons.

DOFFs yes, Crafting no.

Cryptic is horrible with default builds. They just throw everything on them and let the pubbies figure it out. It's kinda like Darwin.

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MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Burning_Monk posted:

Cryptic is horrible with default builds. They just throw everything on them and let the pubbies figure it out. It's kinda like Darwin.

Sadly without the part where the failures are eliminated from the population.

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Morglon: Jan 13, 2010; Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Technical Analysis posted:

Enterprise says otherwise.

Enterprise says lots of things I don't care to remember

# ? Aug 11, 2014 21:05

Lagomorphic: Apr 21, 2008; AKA: Orthonormal

Burning_Monk posted:

DOFFs yes, Crafting no.

Cryptic is horrible with default builds. They just throw everything on them and let the pubbies figure it out. It's kinda like Darwin.

With crafting I'd say just do the 6000 xp projects. You'll get the trait unlocked after like 100 days with no effort expended. Beyond that just ignore it.

# ? Aug 11, 2014 21:10

Acer Pilot: Feb 17, 2007; put the 'the' in therapist

Melchior posted:

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1192311

This dude is asking for people to make Cardassian POV missions involving Gallitep, which has pubbie furor in a frenzy due to it basically being a concentration camp simulator. He's offering a 100m EC prize for the best submission. The thread is pretty entertaining in more ways than one.

Wow, I was already planning Bijor 3. I think I found my favourite pubbie now.

E: how do you post on that forum?

Acer Pilot fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Aug 11, 2014

# ? Aug 11, 2014 21:30

g0del: Jan 9, 2001; Fun Shoe

Burning_Monk posted:

Cryptic is horrible with default builds. They just throw everything on them and let the pubbies figure it out. It's kinda like Darwin.

And they don't even give any good way for people to figure it out. There are tons of different skills, abilities, traits, equipment, all interacting with each other without any good way to see in-game exactly how they're interacting. There are stats on your character sheet, but they lie most of the time. Combat tends toward a mess of particle effects and neon lights everywhere*, with buffs and debuffs appearing and disappearing constantly. You get helpful icons showing what's affecting you, but there are a lot of them and they're too small to be easily identifiable. You can't even tell how your damage output compares to other people on your team without turning on logging and running an external program. I somtimes wonder if cryptic actively tries to make it hard to figure out how to be effective in the game.

*and that's before we break out the disco balls.

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Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

g0del posted:

You get helpful icons showing what's affecting you, but there are a lot of them and they're too small to be easily identifiable.

Not to mention the majority of them don't have any tooltips. What's Plasma Fire do? I think it used to say on the website somewhere but it sure as hell doesn't say in game.

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Tunicate: May 15, 2012

I saw a guy next to me on ESD who had red and blue sparks. He had a tooltip that said 'Mainframe virus', but hell if I know what that means.

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Asimo: Sep 23, 2007

g0del posted:

And they don't even give any good way for people to figure it out.

Yeah. STO is in this weird place where the mechanics are actually surprisingly complicated, there's a lot of different factors that interact in weird ways (skills, abilities, equipment, power levels), and there's very few useful tutorials... but it also doesn't really matter, since for the most part the game is balanced around the people who don't know how it works.

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Coq au Nandos: Nov 7, 2006; I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Morglon posted:

Enterprise says lots of things I don't care to remember

We're staring down the barrel of a Voyager-themed expansion because of attitudes like this.

# ? Aug 11, 2014 23:19

Morglon: Jan 13, 2010; Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

SKY COQ posted:

We're staring down the barrel of a Voyager-themed expansion because of attitudes like this.

The game has been Voyager online for a long time now and honestly it beats the feeding the dog cheese and a short guy rubbing down two chicks themed expansion. And some time travel. That's actually all I remember from Enterprise.

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Acer Pilot: Feb 17, 2007; put the 'the' in therapist

Dance party at Gallitep!

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Dootman: Jun 15, 2000; fishbulb

You have been sentenced to 10 years of hard disco.

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Servicio en Espanol: Feb 5, 2009

Morglon posted:

The game has been Voyager online for a long time now and honestly it beats the feeding the dog cheese and a short guy rubbing down two chicks themed expansion. And some time travel. That's actually all I remember from Enterprise.

Missed out on some rad Andorians in Enterprise then

# ? Aug 12, 2014 03:57

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
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Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
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Servicio en Espanol posted:

Missed out on some rad Andorians in Enterprise then

Andorians were probably one of the better things to be salvaged from Enterprise.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 04:03

Mondian: Apr 24, 2007

Everyone should take this walk down STO memory lane:

http://stoplanner.com/

Check this page out for a glimpse at what launch era skills were like. Much confusion was had over the difference between Deflector Field and Deflector Dish. You also never got more than 2 examples what it would affect and absolutely no clue as to how it actually affected them. Of course there's also the energy and ship pigeonholing.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 05:00

Asimo: Sep 23, 2007

Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that the launch-era tooltips were somehow worse and even more useless, and they only added the "this is affected by skill X" to the full item/power information after the skill revamp. :psyduck:

# ? Aug 12, 2014 05:47

Dinictus: Nov 26, 2005; May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!; Soiled Meat

Acer Pilot posted:

E: how do you post on that forum?

Oh dear

The process used to be 'make account, post' but now I think you can log on using your launcher log-in credentials. I think.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 07:54

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Mondian posted:

Everyone should take this walk down STO memory lane:

http://stoplanner.com/

Check this page out for a glimpse at what launch era skills were like. Much confusion was had over the difference between Deflector Field and Deflector Dish. You also never got more than 2 examples what it would affect and absolutely no clue as to how it actually affected them. Of course there's also the energy and ship pigeonholing.

I also note the fact that the Escort path carries both Attack Pattern Beta 3 and Attack Pattern Omega 3, where the Cruiser path and Science Vessel path gets nothing.

...I wonder what speed and turning was like with and without the ship skills? I mean, you regard most cruisers as 'slow turning' now. And those skills have been removed.

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FrostyJones: Sep 23, 2012

Bloodly posted:

I also note the fact that the Escort path carries both Attack Pattern Beta 3 and Attack Pattern Omega 3, where the Cruiser path and Science Vessel path gets nothing.

...I wonder what speed and turning was like with and without the ship skills? I mean, you regard most cruisers as 'slow turning' now. And those skills have been removed.

Turning was fine. You just threw everything into aux power.

:negative:

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Acer Pilot: Feb 17, 2007; put the 'the' in therapist

I forgot how annoying the foundry was.

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Mondian: Apr 24, 2007

FrostyJones posted:

Turning was fine. You just threw everything into aux power.

RIP Efficient MK IV engines

# ? Aug 12, 2014 11:10

Lord Frankenstyle: Dec 3, 2005; Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Hunh. I've been playing this game for a year, and never thought to see if there was a thread on it. Wish I'd seen the OP a few months ago since it would have saved me so much buyers remorse. Anyway here's a mundane question that I haven't seen on the STO forums, does anybody else have an issue with the new Xindi ships? To me they're totally invisible other than the partial box that marks all ships, and the new dreds frigates I can see. I kinda want to try one out, but I don't want to risk it in case I can't see my own ship.

*Graphic card is newish, and I've had zero other issues.

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bubbles depo: Jul 25, 2006; doot doot!

Frankenstyle posted:

Hunh. I've been playing this game for a year, and never thought to see if there was a thread on it. Wish I'd seen the OP a few months ago since it would have saved me so much buyers remorse. Anyway here's a mundane question that I haven't seen on the STO forums, does anybody else have an issue with the new Xindi ships? To me they're totally invisible other than the partial box that marks all ships, and the new dreds frigates I can see. I kinda want to try one out, but I don't want to risk it in case I can't see my own ship.

*Graphic card is newish, and I've had zero other issues.

Maybe you need to force verify your files. Takes a little bit of time but it seems like you're missing textures or something.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 14:40

Lord Frankenstyle: Dec 3, 2005; Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

That didn't work. Guess I'll learn to live without, and hope the tier 6 ships don't do the same thing.

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the Pixies fukken SUCKED: Jul 16, 2003; Figure 2 in a series of 3

When force verify doesn't work actually uninstalling the game, deleting all the files (since 'delete local content' on steam doesnt seem to do it), and reinstalling seems to help.

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Korgan: Feb 14, 2012

Small update on the leaks page.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 16:52

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Mondian posted:

RIP Efficient MK IV engines

They're still about, I think. There are other engines that also give similar things, also.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 17:39

Aleth: Aug 2, 2008; Pillbug

Korgan posted:

Small update on the leaks page.

The pubbies are going to hate having to talk to the Butts npc to get their ships upgraded with a third nacelle.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 17:44

Lorak: Apr 7, 2009; Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

Bloodly posted:

They're still about, I think. There are other engines that also give similar things, also.

Yes, but they don't have the same effect they once did. People would use the engines because they would give a flat power boost to all systems, making them more useful than higher-mark engines. That, and mission replays didn't give scaled-up items.

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Insert name here: Nov 10, 2009; Oh.
Oh Dear.

I remember when mission replay didn't even exist

# ? Aug 12, 2014 18:41

Szcwczuk: Dec 20, 2011; I ruin everything

I just started playing and am obviously fully retarded. How exactly do I go about reading the wiki linked in the OP? I just get "Sorry, you don't have enough rights to continue. Perhaps you forgot to login?"

# ? Aug 12, 2014 18:42

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Szcwczuk posted:

I just started playing and am obviously fully retarded. How exactly do I go about reading the wiki linked in the OP? I just get "Sorry, you don't have enough rights to continue. Perhaps you forgot to login?"

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Ches Neckbeard: Dec 3, 2005; You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Registered for the wiki give me some access.

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Sterling_Archer: May 10, 2012; "What do you mean we're not in compliance?"

nope

Sterling_Archer fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Aug 27, 2014

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Szcwczuk: Dec 20, 2011; I ruin everything

ah cool thanks.

wiki name: LoadingSA

# ? Aug 12, 2014 21:48

Goat Pillager: Mar 1, 2013

So after the ERP channel became alive, we may have, possibly, probably not, saved the soul of a potential ERPist through the power of dance.

http://pastebin.com/NmkTMvWs

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DonDoodles: Aug 18, 2010; by general anime

Goat Pillager posted:

So after the ERP channel became alive, we may have, possibly, probably not, saved the soul of a potential ERPist through the power of dance.

http://pastebin.com/NmkTMvWs

Sadly, there are many pubbies out there desperately needing salvation:

quote:

im sorry but dental has been a plague not just on sto, but on pretty much all mmo's and forums they are apart of.. they have made a name for themselves long before they came to sto. ive always looked at anyone with dental attached to them as a possible shady person, and to steer clear.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 23:23

Morglon: Jan 13, 2010; Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

That's pretty good to know, here I thought Dental was founded when STO early access started or late beta or whatever because one idiot said some things and the rest is legend.

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Mazreal: Oct 5, 2002; adjusts monocle

I just started playing this a few days ago, and I have to say, this romulan campaign is the best star wars mmo on the market.

Edit- Registered for the wiki as Mazreal (same name).

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