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TerminalSaint: Apr 21, 2007; Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Plom Bar posted:

What a coincidence!

Hahahahaha.

I believe you'll find that's an empty airsoft magazine. :spergin:

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:21

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 10:21

PUGGERNAUT: Nov 14, 2013; I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD

I am sure this happened.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:27

gatesealer: Apr 9, 2011

PUGGERNAUT posted:

I am sure this happened.

I worked retail. We never had to check $20s. I have to wonder where this person worked.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:32

LeJackal: Apr 5, 2011

Legitimate complaint about police or attempted appropriation? You decide.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:33

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

LeJackal posted:

Legitimate complaint about police or attempted appropriation? You decide.

Here's the full story:

quote:

Salt Lake City police shooting investigation could take 2-3 weeks

Victim was unarmed when police confronted him, brother says.

t could be several weeks before investigators probing Salt Lake City police officers� fatal shooting of a 20-year-old man present their findings to prosecutors, police said Friday.

"The only thing new I can tell you is that our investigators are optimistic that they will have a case ready for review by the [Salt Lake County] district attorney�s office in the next two to three weeks," South Salt Lake police Sgt. Darin Sweeten told The Tribune.

Dillon Taylor was shot by police Monday night outside a 7-Eleven store at 2102 S. State St. The officers involved were responding to a report of a man brandishing a handgun in the area of the store.

The South Salt Lake police department, which is investigating the incident, has declined to say whether a weapon was found, or what actions by Taylor � verbal or physical � were deemed threatening enough for police to fire at least twice.

Meanwhile, Jerrail Taylor insists his brother did not have a handgun on him.

Jerrail Taylor said he, his brother and a cousin had just gotten drinks at the 7-Eleven when the officers, guns drawn, confronted them.

Dillon Taylor initially didn�t hear the officers� demands to get down on the ground with his hands on his head, Jerrail Taylor said, because he was wearing headphones.

Witnesses gave conflicting accounts of whether Dillon Taylor reached toward his waistband or, as his brother claimed, was just adjusting his pants.

Sweeten has said Dillon Taylor reportedly was "belligerent" toward officers. He has declined to further detail the nature of that alleged attitude.

Court documents show a $25,000 arrest warrant had been issued Aug. 7 for Taylor, alleging he had violated his probation on earlier felony robbery and obstructing justice charges.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:39

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

gatesealer posted:

I worked retail. We never had to check $20s. I have to wonder where this person worked.

That sort of policy is set at the company level, and usually involves a national or regional warning from the Secret Service or Treasury Dept that there's a counterfeiting operation involving the currency at issue (the Secret Service handle currency forgery investigations).

LeJackal posted:

Legitimate complaint about police or attempted appropriation? You decide.

It happened 3 days ago, and the investigation (like in Ferguson) is ongoing. There was no racial element to the incident that I'm aware of, so at a minimum the racial injustice elements of the complaint aren't similar. The meme's purpose is probably general anti-police rhetoric from the libertarian camp.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:44

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Discendo Vox posted:

It happened 3 days ago, and the investigation (like in Ferguson) is ongoing. There was no racial element to the incident that I'm aware of, so at a minimum the racial injustice elements of the complaint aren't similar. The meme's purpose is probably general anti-police rhetoric from the libertarian camp.

It's more like "the Mike Brown case couldn't possibly be racism because the cops are poo poo towards everyone!"

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gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Aug 18, 2014

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:51

ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

Discendo Vox posted:

It happened 3 days ago, and the investigation (like in Ferguson) is ongoing. There was no racial element to the incident that I'm aware of, so at a minimum the racial injustice elements of the complaint aren't similar. The meme's purpose is probably general anti-police rhetoric from the libertarian camp.

That may have been what was originally intended by the creator of the image, but the intent of the people posting it is most likely to minimize what happened to Michael Brown and others at the hands of the police. They did this same thing during the Trayvon Martin case where they would go around cherry-picking times when black people shot a white person. In this case it's trying to say the racial component doesn't exist because the police sometimes shoot white people too. It's a false equivalency.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:53

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

gradenko_2000 posted:

It's more like "the Mike Brown case couldn't possibly be racism because the cops are poo poo towards everyone!"

I don't think it's even considering the racial element- the logo is from "Police the Police - (A Community Project)", which is a facebook group that has a generally anti-police bent (note there's another one with a similar name, but a different logo and ideology. From their latest post:

Police the Police posted:

It is safe to acknowledge that police disproportionately profile black people in this country on a daily basis but I really hope this doesn't turn into a race issue.

At this point, it's police vs the people. Police have made themselves the enemy of humanity, that should be the focus. Don't let them divide us like they have in the past and don't ever forget we have the numbers. Where there is unity, there is strength!

Their position is really strongly anti-police, to the point of incoherence. That said, other posts indicate a lack of racial animus, including memes discussing how black community members were protecting storefronts during the rioting.

^^^^^^ Yeah, that makes sense. This example of perverse use is exactly why I dislike particular-to-general arguments in this area.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 02:58

Mormon Star Wars: Aug 13, 2005; It's a minotaur race...

El Anansi posted:

This is overwhelmingly the way Islam is portrayed in the west, but Islam actually has an amazingly fractious history both on sectarian and doctrinal levels. Everyone uses the same Koran, true, and the text is the same as it's always been, but as a proportion of the religious texts of Islam, the Koran itself makes up only a tiny piece of the picture, even if it's the most important part. The remainder is mostly filled in with Hadith, which are the accounts of the sayings, teachings, and works of the Prophet, and those are almost hilariously contentious among scholars and laypersons alike.

The infallibility of the Koran doesn't really help that it's missing a lot of the necessary doctrine to form the kind of comprehensive faith that Islam is charged with being, so it was left to people to fill in the gaps. Even immediately following the death of the Prophet, the fact that he hadn't given specific instructions regarding the ascendancy of leadership of the faith caused the Sunni-Shia split, and they and their respective subgroupings have had fifteen hundred years to develop their own opinions and traditions about the strength and relevance of different Hadith as well as incorporate pre-Islamic traditions into their religious practice. (FGM is a good example, that's straight-up a North African regional thing that both Christian and Muslim Egyptians practice in roughly equal measure, yet Monolithic Global Islam constantly gets tarred with that brush.)

Muslim friends have shared with me the adage "Ask one question of two Muslims; get three answers", which sums it up in my experience.

Just to illustrate this, even stuff like "What food is Halal?" has a huge number of variations. Depending on Madhab, Fish can be haram, or fish are okay but everything else from the sea is haram, or everything from the sea is halal, etc. Even the basics have a huge amount of diversity.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 03:00

Ham Equity: Apr 16, 2013; The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.; Grimey Drawer

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I don't even know where to start.

Thank god Christians don't support that kind of thing.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 03:07

Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

gatesealer posted:

I worked retail. We never had to check $20s. I have to wonder where this person worked.

We always did when I worked at Hardee's, though that was in 2005, so it could have changed by now.

Also, gently caress anyone who says "could of" instead of "could have."

# ? Aug 18, 2014 03:07

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

gradenko_2000 posted:

It's more like "the Mike Brown case couldn't possibly be racism because the cops are poo poo towards everyone!"

I unironically support the message that "Cops are poo poo."

# ? Aug 18, 2014 03:09

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin