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Away all Goats posted:The real magic tech in Thor's movies is how those little pieces of his armor sleeves seem to come out of nowhere and magic themselves together on to his arm In the first Thor you can see they actually do just slide over his arms when he powers up.
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Barry Convex posted:If they deemphasize the origin (I imagine Faraci is exaggerating when he talks as though it's been excised entirely), I wonder how they'd explain the lack of actual magic in the MCU thus far, or why he was only known to SHIELD/HYDRA as a potential future threat rather than a current one. Not an insurmountable obstacle, but I'm curious. The answer can be that Strange has been keeping it under wraps as the previous sorcerer supreme did. Just explain that the job of the sorcerer supreme is to combat magical threats, and to prevent people from uncovering anything too dangerous, keeping magic in the hands of the worthy. We know he has been active as shield had a file on him in cap 2. His fatal flaw is arrogance. So things are going good, he gets cocky and out pops dormamu... First flick there. Roydrowsy fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Aug 18, 2014 |
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They could explain it that the Sorcerers on earth are actaully people who have learned how to preform Asgardian "magic", but as they don't fully understand it, it really is magic to them, filled with ritual and such, while someone like Loki and Freya could use it at will.
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Waterhaul posted:It'll be the same as Avengers, Guardians and Ant Man. The heroes exist already but there will still be an origin story of them learning to stop being selfish and self absorbed so they can save the day Thor falls under that banner too, since his actual origin story would involve an Anthony Hopkins / Rene Russo sex-scene.
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twistedmentat posted:They could explain it that the Sorcerers on earth are actaully people who have learned how to preform Asgardian "magic", but as they don't fully understand it, it really is magic to them, filled with ritual and such, while someone like Loki and Freya could use it at will. It's magic to asgardians Jane sciences away the Soul Forge and Frigga rolls her eyes like "whatever you stupid housecat"
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Don't they actually establish even many of the Asgardians think their technology is magic?
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Lobok posted:I think it makes sense that Strange is fairly under the radar. He's one of the few Marvel heroes who takes pains to hide himself, and many of his adventures are on different planes of existence or beyond the physical realm. Strange doesn't really hide himself. Everyone knows where his house is. But nobody is dumb enough to bother him because he could magic you into Dormammu's realm or something if you pissed him off. Plus Wong is terrifying.
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Codependent Poster posted:Strange doesn't really hide himself. Everyone knows where his house is. But nobody is dumb enough to bother him because he could magic you into Dormammu's realm or something if you pissed him off. Plus Wong is terrifying. He wore a mask for awhile.
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Codependent Poster posted:Strange doesn't really hide himself. Everyone knows where his house is. But nobody is dumb enough to bother him because he could magic you into Dormammu's realm or something if you pissed him off. Plus Wong is terrifying. I do hope Wong gets a chance to just brutalize somebody in the movie.
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How about just have Dr. Strange do magic and not even mention science at all? I like that plan.
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They emphasized that everything the Asgardians do is science and not magic so that when Dr. Strange shows up and does actual magic it's more impressive and special.
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WickedHate posted:"Actual" magic isn't a thing. Magic only stops being magic to people when it's explained.
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By the hoary host bus of Hoggoth!
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Bongo Bill posted:They emphasized that everything the Asgardians do is science and not magic so that when Dr. Strange shows up and does actual magic it's more impressive and special. No they didn't. They said it was both. Very explicitly.
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theflyingorc posted:With that definition, Doctor Strange in the comics doesn't do "actual" magic, as it's something that can be studied, quantified, and understood. Exactly. Kind of. The magic in Thor isn't any less magic just because it's approached scientifically. There isn't a separate magic that's more real then it. The concept of "actual" magic vs "just science" shouldn't exist in the first place.
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WickedHate posted:Exactly. Kind of. The magic in Thor isn't any less magic just because it's approached scientifically. There isn't a separate magic that's more real then it. The concept of "actual" magic vs "just science" shouldn't exist in the first place. Which they kept trying to hammer (  ) home in the Thor movies.It's both you nerds and Jane Foster.
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I think Strange's brand of incantations and spells that involve invoking gods and demons and whatever is probably a bit more real.
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greatn posted:Justice society with like, Tommy Lee Jones as Guy Gardner, Sly Stallone as Wildcat, Morgan Freeman as sandman, Harrison Ford as Jay Garrick, Diane Lane as Red Tornado. Just the old people versions. Oh Lord Almighty, please let this happen if nothing else than for a decent set-up for a Crisis on Multiple Earths movie. 
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A really likely way to do a non origin Strange movie would be the "average Joe/Jane" maneuver. Like Blade or Hellboy, just bring in a character to act as the viewer, and have them stumble into Strange's world. Now everything the character/viewer sees must be explained and voila.
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"He's like Iron Man and Doctor Who combined, but with magic and demons instead of science and aliens."
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I didn't see anything posted about this so here it goes: http://www.slashfilm.com/john-slattery-ant-man-casting/ Looks like were getting more middle aged Howard Stark in Ant-Man.
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Saw a commercial for the home release of ASM2 and they made a point of having 19 deleted scenes. That's a loving lot.
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muscles like this? posted:Saw a commercial for the home release of ASM2 and they made a point of having 19 deleted scenes. That's a loving lot. Well, the cut MJ out entirely, that probably accounts for a good chunk.
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muscles like this? posted:Saw a commercial for the home release of ASM2 and they made a point of having 19 deleted scenes. That's a loving lot. Or not nearly enough, depending on who you ask.
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hi liter posted:I didn't see anything posted about this so here it goes: http://www.slashfilm.com/john-slattery-ant-man-casting/ Roger Sterling is Howard Stark is John Slattery.
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Kingtheninja posted:A really likely way to do a non origin Strange movie would be the "average Joe/Jane" maneuver. Like Blade or Hellboy, just bring in a character to act as the viewer, and have them stumble into Strange's world. Now everything the character/viewer sees must be explained and voila. They could keep it true to the books and the everyman stand-in is a college co-ed Strange is perving on.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:They could keep it true to the books and the everyman stand-in is a college co-ed Strange is perving on. Night Nurse?
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Kingtheninja posted:A really likely way to do a non origin Strange movie would be the "average Joe/Jane" maneuver. Like Blade or Hellboy, just bring in a character to act as the viewer, and have them stumble into Strange's world. Now everything the character/viewer sees must be explained and voila. If you don't mind giving up any chance to ever do Runaways, you could probably use Nico for this. Brought on as an apprentice via mystical family connections or whatever.
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There was that girl from the Mark Waid miniseries a few years back. Casey, I think?
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The Lord of Hats posted:If you don't mind giving up any chance to ever do Runaways, you could probably use Nico for this. Brought on as an apprentice via mystical family connections or whatever. No. Bad enough that every Marvel lead is a white dude. Let's not start reducing the few heroic female minority team leaders to the role of annoying kid in film.
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Soylentbits posted:No. Bad enough that every Marvel lead is a white dude. Let's not start reducing the few heroic female minority team leaders to the role of annoying kid in film. Yeah; I like the character, but wanting them in a movie shouldn't get in the way of letting them be who they actually are. It's just that it's hard at this point to really imagine Runaways being done in the Marvel movie universe at this point, because so much of the story depends on being set in a world where these heroics are vaguely commonplace.
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Also there's no point in bringing in Nico when Clea is around to serve as both audience stand in and a built in "Dormammu wants you dead because you have a legitimate claim to his throne through you conveniently to dead to teach you magic parents" plot
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Soylentbits posted:No. Bad enough that every Marvel lead is a white dude. Let's not start reducing the few heroic female minority team leaders to the role of annoying kid in film. At least women get positive roles in films. let's give Strange a sidekick from a real minority. Interstellar psychic dragonflies.
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Captain Bravo posted:At least women get positive roles in films. let's give Strange a sidekick from a real minority. Interstellar psychic dragonflies. Why haven't they got MGK to write Doctor Strange, anyway?
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Last I checked his reaction to certain Spider-man storylines really hurt his stock with Marvel.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Last I checked his reaction to certain Spider-man storylines really hurt his stock with Marvel. You mean his love of Superior Spider-Man? I'd have thought that would have made him popular in Marvel, but lynched around these parts? Edit: I know what you are talking about. But I thought he had more of a blow-up over Civil War then he did about OMD. I can't even remember if he really posted that much about OMD.
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Paul Rudd in Ant Man http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=106266
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lomzus posted:Paul Rudd in Ant Man Or Paul Rudd in literally any movie at all
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Almost as exciting as those leaked pics of Bruce Wayne
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Huh, I didn't know Paul Rudd was a bridge, interesting direction to take the movie.
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