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Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
Aren't they where he gets all his money.

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Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

:frogsiren::frogsiren::frogsiren::psyduck:


wherein we all run afoul of the new anti-terrorism legislation

Come be a Vicious Lawless Associate... er, politically active goon.

Where: Sukachi Chicken and Beer 115-121 Albert St, City.
After dinner, find a bar.
When: Saturday 23rd August. 6pm onwards. <<<This Saturday>>>
What: Drink and talk poo poo about how world is fukt.

"Do you have stairs? gently caress. This is stupid."
No codephrases, I'll make a booking under "Goons", I'll be in a green shirt and i may have a plastic potplant with something topical on it. Like Hungry Hungry Gina.

But I'm a goony tard that lives in a rat hole in Cooperooo and the busses dont run after 10pm
Well, nobodys perfect, come out and forget your awful life.

But I'm poor and cant buy any more money. I'm eating shoeboxes.
Sukachi is like Gami, big plates of fried chicken in sauce for not a lot of money.
If you are super prole I'm sure one of the nice wealthier goons can buy you a drink.

But I...
Come out.

I'm Clive Palmer.
Really?
I require sustinance
Oh, thats a shame.
We must stop those Communist Chinese Mongrels
uh... have a chicken wing.
Om nomnom nomnom

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Gough Suppressant posted:

So Clive just went on about Chinese mongrel bastard communists taking over the country on live tv?

Wong's facial expressions were amazing through the entire diatribe.

apples
Oct 16, 2004
I thought auspol would like this snip it I just found on google news.



I never knew the Queensland flag was black nor that people carried AKs

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Breetai posted:

Wong's facial expressions were amazing through the entire diatribe.

I love you Penny Wong. Please take the Labor Left, split off and form some kind of green/labor supergovt.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

hooman posted:

I love you Penny Wong. Please take the Labor Left, split off and form some kind of green/labor supergovt.

I'll pass on that, thanks. She defends Labor's refugee policies to the hilt

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Jonah Galtberg posted:

I'll pass on that, thanks. She defends Labor's refugee policies to the hilt

Wait, so you would prefer the status quo?

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

What a terrible question.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Jonah Galtberg posted:

What a terrible question.

And yet you don't want a government comprised of the vestigial remnants of the alp left and the greens. What other conclusion should I draw?

I think this is what people mean when they say that perfect is the enemy of good.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
The title of Gratten's new article seems to pretty much sum up Palmer at the moment: A climate change convention: Clive Palmer really knows how to mess with Abbott’s mind

Such a brilliantly rear end in a top hat'ish move, announcing a climate change convection immediately after the G20, while at the same time calling the Chinese government Mongral bastards. It really is fascinating seeing how much and little effort he can put into pissing people -and countries- off, apparently just for shits and giggles.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

mrdull posted:

interested people can listen to james carlton's takedown of this article here. it's pretty fun.

"please select your media player , windows media player or real audio"

What loving decade is this? Is real player even a thing anymore?

Cos I appear not to have either of these installed on my god drat ipad.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

I believe...

quote:


East coast fast-rail link back on track
RICK WALLACE THE AUSTRALIAN AUGUST 19, 2014 12:00AM

THE push for an east coast, high-speed, rail link has received a boost, with the Abbott government holding a series of high-level meetings with Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and French rail companies in Australia and abroad.

Trade Minister Andrew Robb said the talks had included discussions on financial models to make the project viable, despite its hefty estimated price tag of $110 billion and the government’s fiscal constraints.

Renewed interest in the project comes as Central Japan Railway Company declared Japanese tunnelling methods could strip 20-30 per cent off the projected cost. The company, Japan’s most profitable high-speed rail operator, has also revealed that Japanese government lender JBIC is prepared to bankroll construction if Australia shares the risk.

Albury-Wodonga and other regional cities and shires along the planned route have thrown their support behind the project as a way to boost their populations and encourage development.

The Melbourne-Sydney leg, the likely first stage of any east coast, high-speed, rail venture, is the fifth busiest air route in the world, underscoring the potential for fast rail to attract enough customers to defray the cost.

The Rudd-Gillard government pushed the rail project, which would connect Melbourne and Brisbane via Sydney and Canberra in its full form, and opposition infrastructure spokesman Anthony Albanese remains a strong supporter. After the Coalition won power, the advisory group charged with planning the route was wound up as part of budget cuts, and it was assumed the idea was dead in the short term.

With public support for the venture running at 82 per cent, and interest from a range of Asian and European players deepening, it has floated back into the political consciousness.

Mr Robb’s comments reveal the Coalition is continuing to ­explore options to build the project, provided it can be predominantly privately funded, and the government has committed to trying to purchase the identified land corridor for the route.

“High-speed rail is certainly one of those things that could deliver huge efficiency gains to Australia, if it could be financed in a viable way,’’ Mr Robb said.

“Historically, it has never been seen as something that could deliver the type of return on investment to warrant support. If it is to materialise it will require some innovative financing mechanisms that don’t rely on substantial debt funding and such innovative ­approaches are being examined.”

Travel times for Melbourne-Sydney and Sydney-Brisbane would be less than three hours. For the project to be viable without subsidy, the highest ticket prices would need to be about equal to a business-class flight, about $300-$400 for the Melbourne-Sydney sector, proponents say.

Australasian Railway Association chief executive Bryan Nye, who has been lobbying for the project, said he wanted the government to call for expressions of interest as soon as possible.

Central Japan Railway Company’s Gen Okajima confirmed the company’s strong interest in the project but said it was waiting for an invitation from the Australian government before detailing its plans as a matter of protocol and courtesy. Mr Okajima, the company’s Sydney representative, said the feasibility study was conservative and the cost of $110bn could be brought down by 20 to 30 per cent by using tunnels cut to suit Japan’s Shinkansen bullet trains.

He confirmed that the Japan Bank for International Co-operation was willing to fund the project if the Australian government was prepared to underwrite a certain minimum level of patronage


Personally don't see this happening because Abbott's invested so much loving stupid time and energy into budget emergency. Maybe he'll shelve all the roads projects and replace it with this (lol nope).

In any case I would loving love high speed rail links between the major cities.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Ler posted:

Personally don't see this happening because Abbott's invested so much loving stupid time and energy into budget emergency. Maybe he'll shelve all the roads projects and replace it with this (lol nope).

In any case I would loving love high speed rail links between the major cities.

I wouldn't mind a decent internet connection.

But I guess you guys over east can have your loving train line :(

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

I believe...

duck monster posted:

I wouldn't mind a decent internet connection.

But I guess you guys over east can have your loving train line :(

A real NBN would also be loving tops but we can't have everything, or in the LNP's case - anything.


As someone who is from Perth as well, I guess we just have to live with the fact the state will be pretty isolated for many years to come.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

I believe...
Where do I start with this?


quote:

Children and their families who arrived under the former Labor government will be allowed to settle in the community.
The new policy will apply to asylum seekers now in community detention housing and 150 children in immigration detention centres such as Villawood.
It is expected most of the children will be released by the end of the year, saving taxpayers an estimated $50 million.

HUNDREDS of children held in immigration detention on the Australian mainland will be released into the community under a plan by the federal government to bring an end to child incarceration.

The Daily Telegraph has learned all children and their families who arrived and were detained under the former Labor government will be allowed to settle in the community on bridging visas while their refugee applications are processed.
The new policy of releasing children into the community will be available to 1547 children under 10 and their families being held in community detention housing or on bridging visas but for whom a community detention place had not been available because of a lack of facilities and services.

More significantly, it will apply to 150 children still being held in immigration detention centres such as Villawood in Western Sydney, who will be granted visas to be settled in the community with their families.
It is expected the majority of these children will have been released into the community by the end of the year, a move that will save taxpayers $50 million — the cost of keeping them in detention.

Immigration and Border Protection Minister Scott Morrison told The Daily Telegraph the government had been prevented from releasing the children earlier because of the lack of community detention facilities.
Community detention is housing provided by the Immigration Department — primarily for families — as an alternative to being confined to a centre, but with modest restrictions and still formally considered detention.
Mr Morrison said he had been working for months on finding safe and appropriate housing in the community — through private rentals or supported accommodation — to deal with the backlog.
The families of children released into the community would also be offered assistance with managing financial hardship, access to affordable transport, healthcare and help with language barriers.
“It is the Abbott government’s policy to keep children out of detention by firstly stopping the boats and then releasing as many children as possible, who had already arrived, into available community residential facilities,” Mr Morrison said.
“It has been the lack of community residential facilities in the community detention program that has until now prevented more children being released from mainland detention into the community.
“The alternative of releasing children and families on bridging visas has not been preferred as the support arrangements put in place by Labor were insufficient.
“The advice I have received is that children and families on bridging visas could become quickly isolated in the community and were vulnerable to exploitation. These are not conditions into which you responsibly release children.
“I was simply not prepared to dump children in the community to satisfy the chattering calls of those who claim to be advocates for children, but were happy to have them placed in a position of potentially even greater risk in the community.”
But the new policy will not apply to those transferred from offshore for medical treatment — of which there are several hundred.


1. Showing the faces of asylum seeker children on the front page of the loving newspaper.
2. The bullshit about how Tony Abbott is saving these poor children from Labors horrible clutches when both of these dipshits were responsible for their incarceration
3. The blatant fallacy that this was the Liberals plan at all
4. The humanisation of lord pickleshit himself Morriscum

So loving angry.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark

Ler posted:

Where do I start with this?

So loving angry.

Wow. Glad there's no bias in private media, just facts! Still, I guess one positive asylum article in a sea of bile was bound to happen. I guess these are the good ones. Not the ones who tried to rought the system by hurting themselves?

More tele:

quote:

JOE Hockey has defended his practice of claiming a $270-a-night taxpayer-funded travelling allowance to stay in a Canberra house majority-owned by his wife on the grounds that it is an entirely legitimate practice embraced by scores of Labor MPs.

The Treasurer has legitimately claimed $108,000 in travel allowance for 368 nights over the past four years including many nights for parliamentary sitting weeks where he has stayed at the Canberra house.

rest here (Tele!)

I almost feel sorry for the prick.

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
This sounds like something I recall Tony Burke setting up just prior to the election to troll the Libs. Did they finally have to make good on it and have to stop torturing kids?

e: "Have you stopped torturing children yet?"

fliptophead
Oct 2, 2006
An article last week about Morrison fronting the enquiry into child abuse allegations in detention centres and now they're all miraculously being released...

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Clive Palmers outburst from his "we've had a victory in the supreme court...Those chinese mongrels..." tirade at Tony on qanda last night featured on the 8am radio news.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Jesus gently caress, so that's how they're spinning it? I just heard on my drive up how they were releasing those children... but only ones that arrived during the previous government.

Sorry any kids that arrived since then, you're hosed! But isn't this government so nice and wonderful, to choose to continue keeping you locked up, right now in the present, while releasing those other kids that the other government was ~~soooo eeevil~~ to have locked up, just like they're locking you up, gfrabrledsfkjdslfd

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Bifauxnen posted:

Jesus gently caress, so that's how they're spinning it? I just heard on my drive up how they were releasing those children... but only ones that arrived during the previous government.

Sorry any kids that arrived since then, you're hosed! But isn't this government so nice and wonderful, to choose to continue keeping you locked up, right now in the present, while releasing those other kids that the other government was ~~soooo eeevil~~ to have locked up, just like they're locking you up, gfrabrledsfkjdslfd

Blame it on the former govt. Privatise everything, remove the presumption of innocence, incarcerate kids arragahahagaarrblbele

Newman is at risk of losing Ashgrove, the LNP is behind in Toowoomba.

but this is QLD.



"Where else but Queensland?"

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

More Queensland.

quote:

On the night of Saturday, August 10, 2014, an 18-year-old transgender man Oscar Mcgregor was verbally and physically assaulted by three security guards for using the men's bathroom. Oscar received bruises, cuts, and swelling all over his body, and after reaching out for justice The Beat has still not responded or apologized for the incident.

https://www.change.org/petitions/th...justiceforoscar

Here is a written statement by Oscar, posted immediately after the assault on August 10, 2014:

quote:

"On Saturday night I was assaulted by three security guards at The Beat Megaclub for using the toilets of the gender I identify with. After one guard told me I couldn't use the mens bathroom I explained that I'm a transman and he allowed me to use the toilet. Half an hour later the same guard returned with two others and told me I'm not allowed to use the mens toilets and to leave. I explained to them again that I am a transman but then they asked for my ID (which I didn't give them) and said that until my ID says that I am male I cannot use the mens toilets. I told them that that is discrimination and they can't do that. They then asked me if I wanted to be treated as a man and when I said yes they threw me to the ground.

This is blatant transphobia and is disgusting behavior from a place that claims to be inclusive to people of all sexuality's and genders. I'd prefer not to be called a slurs by people employed at a place that is supposed to be a safe space for people like me. I especially don't understand why it was necessary to have three very large men restrain a person who is 50kg and 170cm with excessive force (e.g. knee to my throat, punched me in the face, stood on my leg). Drag queens use the female toilets all the time and no one seems to care.

I am honestly disgusted this kind of behavior came from the beat, now i have a bruised eye, cuts and swelling on the back of my head and cuts and bruises down my shins."

epipen
Aug 11, 2014

nyoom

xutech posted:

More Queensland.


https://www.change.org/petitions/th...justiceforoscar

Here is a written statement by Oscar, posted immediately after the assault on August 10, 2014:

for the sake of the thread - sounds like security contravened the anti-discrimination act, besides beating someone on bullshit grounds.
i hope they lawyer up and press charges, get some loving scum out of the security business.

Ol Sweepy
Nov 28, 2005

Safety First

epipen posted:

for the sake of the thread - sounds like security contravened the anti-discrimination act, besides beating someone on bullshit grounds.
i hope they lawyer up and press charges, get some loving scum out of the security business.

Yeah I don't know how the gently caress these guys got work at The Beat if they are Transphobic? It's, to my knowledge, the most famous LGBT destination in the city. What did they expect when they started working there?

Surely they aren't on the Beat payroll and were sourced through a security company like famous assholes Wilsons? Who will probably give them a slap on the wrist or make jokes about it in the office.

SERIOUS/UNRELATED TOPIC EDIT:

So a close family friend of my girlfriend recently had a lung transplant and is now having a number of problems associated with that and posted the following on facebook - I've paraphrased so it's not tldr; for goons:

quote:

Guys, I need your help. Cairns Hospital are trying to wipe their hands of me. They are too understaffed & want Brisbane to take over my plasma exchange. That means moving back to Brisbane indefinitely. My Specialist spent all morning convincing them this is a bad idea as my whole support network is in Cairns. For now, Cairns have agreed to continue on.

I need a tablet called eculizumab for a condition called Haemolytic Uraemic Syndrome. The drug company has agreed to supply the tablet for me provided the hospital/government pay for the first 2 to see if it works. The tablet is $35000 a pop. If you have a spare 5 minutes please write to our local MP, I have been going to Warren Entsch, & help me get my life back.

I know a couple of people are writing Lawrence Springborg. Are you guys aware of any other course of action? Is this something where it is worthwhile trying to tee-up Senators, MP's outside of her area?

Ol Sweepy fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Aug 19, 2014

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
The audio has the details:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/charities-social-media-campaign-strategies/5679960

Turns out the hand of the free market is poised to finger gently caress the charity sector as the move to found a medical research fund (Part of your Medicare co-payment) sees money already deserting the field from philanthropists.

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Grid-level electrical energy storage is really not anything like a reality yet. It's prohibitively expensive.

The best current bet is thermal storage, at least in Australia.
OK I read the article and apart from general free market lol sentiments:

1/ Demand 'smoothing' (Shifting is a more modern translation) is entirely feasible. It could be done using pricing signals in the same way 'off-peak' currently works.
2/ Basin Storage. Ironic that the article uses Germany as the basis for the 'problem' while ignoring the existing and very recent German Solution. Efficiencies of ~ 85% are claimed.
3/ With large scale solar thermal there is a built in (molten salt) storage factor.

tl;dr Original article is by a libertarian gently caress spray who couldn't find a single clue in a big box of them.

epipen
Aug 11, 2014

nyoom

Bompacho posted:

SERIOUS/UNRELATED TOPIC EDIT:

So a close family friend of my girlfriend recently had a lung transplant and is now having a number of problems associated with that and posted the following on facebook - I've paraphrased so it's not tldr; for goons:


I know a couple of people are writing Lawrence Springborg. Are you guys aware of any other course of action? Is this something where it is worthwhile trying to tee-up Senators, MP's outside of her area?

I think i recall hearing about something like this when the ABC was broadcasting the last couple days of the senate before the break - definitely write to every MP they can - and senator - regardless of electorate. Make as many politicians aware of it as possible. It's good press for them if they do something about it.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Bompacho posted:

Yeah I don't know how the gently caress these guys got work at The Beat if they are Transphobic? It's, to my knowledge, the most famous LGBT destination in the city. What did they expect when they started working there?

Surely they aren't on the Beat payroll and were sourced through a security company like famous assholes Wilsons? Who will probably give them a slap on the wrist or make jokes about it in the office.


I'd say you're right, they're probably just from some company contracted to provide security. It makes sense to do this, because the club can disown the actions of the security staff and then go after the security company for any potential losses caused by their staff, depending on the contract. I'd imagine hiring your own security staff yourself would probably be a clusterfuck of legislation to deal with.

As far as I know, it's the more "famous" LGBT club in Brisbane, but I don't think it's the safest by a long shot. From what I'm told, a lot of straight people go there too now and some of my gay friends don't really consider it a "gay club" so much now days.

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Bompacho posted:

SERIOUS/UNRELATED TOPIC EDIT:

So a close family friend of my girlfriend recently had a lung transplant and is now having a number of problems associated with that and posted the following on facebook - I've paraphrased so it's not tldr; for goons:

I know a couple of people are writing Lawrence Springborg. Are you guys aware of any other course of action? Is this something where it is worthwhile trying to tee-up Senators, MP's outside of her area?

* Close friend has to write to his Cairns state MP, and the state minister for Health but first:
* Close friend needs to go to legal aid http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au and get legal advice, they should also put him towards a support group that has experience with this. In any case, your friend will need to lawyer up.

I really want to emphasise your friend needs legal advice and support.

You can get pleasant wishes, and vague promises of action. But you really need it in black and white that Cairns hospital has a duty of care and they'd be failing their duty of care by sending you away to Brisbane and your support network. It will also give your friend a little piece of mind that he knows exactly where he stands and exactly what he's entitled to.

BCR fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Aug 19, 2014

epipen
Aug 11, 2014

nyoom
yeahhh queer clubs and events almost invariably end up becoming spectacles for straight people, because it brings in money, and almost as often becomes less safe for young queer folk as a result :smith:

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

epipen posted:

yeahhh queer clubs and events almost invariably end up becoming spectacles for straight people, because it brings in money, and almost as often becomes less safe for young queer folk as a result :smith:

AFAIK, the current choice spot for LGBT people to drink is the Sportsman, which is more of a pub than a club but it does seem to not attract the gawking straight people so much apparently. Wickham is closed (walked past it on the way to Merlo the other week), that's about all I know from talk with my friends but there could be others. I'm not the clubbing type so I have literally no idea what there is now days. The Valley at night is something not to behold.

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

The Beat is pretty much a straight tourist destination now, there are other hotels that have majority gay clients and they're off the radar like the Sportsman or Spring Hill hotel from memory up behind the Roma Street parklands.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Holy poo poo

quote:

Treasurer Joe Hockey has suggested his claim that the "poorest people either don't have cars or actually don't drive very far" was misreported by the media, re-opening debate about the embarrassing gaffe.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS JOE?

Ol Sweepy
Nov 28, 2005

Safety First

BCR posted:

* Close friend has to write to his Cairns state MP, and the state minister for Health but first:
* Close friend needs to go to legal aid http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au and get legal advice, they should also put him towards a support group that has experience with this. In any case, your friend will need to lawyer up.

I really want to emphasise your friend needs legal advice and support.

You can get pleasant wishes, and vague promises of action. But you really need it in black and white that Cairns hospital has a duty of care and they'd be failing their duty of care by sending you away to Brisbane and your support network. It will also give your friend a little piece of mind that he knows exactly where he stands and exactly what he's entitled to.

Thanks for this, Epipen too. I've directed Sarah to try and write Senators/MP's that have medical portfolios/history.

Also stressed the importance of legal advice.

Ol Sweepy fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 19, 2014

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Lid posted:

Holy poo poo


WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS JOE?

Secret Labor mole bringing down the Liberal party from the inside.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Lid posted:

Holy poo poo


WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS JOE?

Pride.

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

Lid posted:

Holy poo poo


WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS JOE?

Because he was forced to apologise and still doesn't think he has done anything wrong. A natural consequence of being a silver spoon baby with no understanding of consequences

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Smokin Joe: I'm just saying what we all know in Mosman/Manly, why do I have to apologise?

BCR fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Aug 19, 2014

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Lid posted:

Holy poo poo


WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS JOE?

Good, keep it going for as long as possible. Have as many people weigh into it as possible and absolutely trash his reputation beyond repair through the media and in the eyes of the public.

Kim Jong ill
Jul 28, 2010

NORTH KOREA IS ONLY KOREA.

Bompacho posted:

Thanks for this, Epipen too. I've directed Sarah to try and write Senators/MP's that have medical portfolios/history.

Also stressed the importance of legal advice.

Tell her to write to Richard Di Natale. He has a background as a GP and public health specialist in rural areas, I don't think you could find anyone an MP with as much relevant personal experience as him.

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Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Here, have a look at some emails in which Immigration Departmental officers chat about sending Syrian refugees back to Syria.

https://docs.google.com/a/guardian.co.uk/file/d/0B7woNJLKHttNSl9GRGhkM3lSM0E/edit

Article here: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/australia-going-to-unthinkable-lengths-to-return-syria-detainees-emails-show

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