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icantfindaname posted:For the record I've never played a paradox game, maybe making this map is a sign that I'm the kind of person who should steer clear of them
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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SkySteak posted:Come on dude, no independent Cornwall? Also: Friesland isn't independent from the Netherlands in that map, and Belgium isn't two separate countries but got absorbed by the Netherlands and France. A shameful Balkanised Europe map 
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PittTheElder posted:This is exactly the wrong conclusion to draw. You need to pick up EU4 and then the Europa Gooniversalis mod, pronto. Or just save yourself the time and buy all of the current games except hearts of iron 3.
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ekuNNN posted:Also: Friesland isn't independent from the Netherlands in that map, and Belgium isn't two separate countries but got absorbed by the Netherlands and France. A shameful Balkanised Europe map Well it's more of an irredentist/nationalist map than balkanized per se. Hence Germany absorbing Austria  and Belgium and Switzerland being dismantled. Independent cornwall is a pretty big oversight though, my mistake. Is there a significant Frisian independence movement in the Netherlands?vvvvvvvvvvvvvv Low German / High German. Also Protestant/Catholic is about the same line, although I think western Germany is Catholic so not quite icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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Aug 20, 2014 01:55
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What's the line going through Germany? Protestant/Catholic divide?
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Edible Hat posted:The Tuvans are a Turkic people whose language and culture more closely resemble Mongolia's than China's. Most Tuvans practice Buddhism. In fact, when the leader of Tuva instituted Buddhism as the state religion, the USSR orchestrated a coup and put in a place a Stalinist puppet. One of my favorite bands, Yat-Kha, is from Tuva. I got into Tuvan music after seeing "Genghis Blues", a documentary about a blind American songwriter who learned Tuvan throat singing and entered a contest in Tuva. Genghis Khan's greatest general, Subotai, was from Tuva.
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SkySteak posted:Come on dude, no independent Cornwall? Excuse me it is called Kernow.
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Why not just divide England into the medieval Heptarchy while you're at it? Imagine that! An independent Wessex in this modern day!
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I get Brittany and Occitania, but what's the area in France bordering Switzerland?
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Recreate 17th century Holy Roman Empire. 100+ new nations instantly created out of the current German borders.
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Radio Prune posted:I get Brittany and Occitania, but what's the area in France bordering Switzerland? That is the French region of Rhone-Alpes. A large number of Franco-Provencal speakers live there (and in Switzerland and Italy.) Franco-Provencal is one of the three Gallo-Romance languages recognized by the French government. I honestly don't know if a large enough number of speakers exists or that the region has a strong enough identity to constitute a separate country.
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Amused to Death posted:Recreate 17th century Holy Roman Empire. 100+ new nations instantly created out of the current German borders. Ah yes, the land where conquering every province gives you country level infamy because every province is a country! I hated that whole area in EU3 and when playing Ottomans, Napoli or France I would just ignore it and conquer around it. Oh, also annoying was when you declared war on someone and then you got 100 pop-ups of "Worthlessburg/Fries Land/etc has declared war on you"
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Kennel posted:During the cold war communist used to have 15-25% Finland's the last place you'd expect that. Stockholm Syndrome?
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Phlegmish posted:Finland's the last place you'd expect that. Stockholm Syndrome? It's just one of those places, where communism rose in late 19th century/early 20th. We even started with a civil war between Capitalistic-pig-dogs (whites aka. Butchers) vs. Communists (reds) during the WW1. Initial frontlines of the war: Reds controlling the bigger cities and the south, whites controlling countryside.  Reds lost and got butchered by their captors, hence the "popular" nickname for whites.
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Phlegmish posted:Finland's the last place you'd expect that. Stockholm Syndrome? Helsinki Syndrome, surely.
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icantfindaname posted:
You could make a socialist breakaway state out of Northern Sweden, it's a D&D wet dream!  
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made of bees posted:What's the line going through Germany? Protestant/Catholic divide? From Wikipedia:  Religion, 2011 Census. Yellow: Roman-Catholic purple: Protestant blue: non religious dark color: absolut majority light color: relative majority Also, with any given map of Germany, you can always play "guess the GDR's borders"
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What was the main religion in East Germany (before the GDR)?
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Kurtofan posted:What was the main religion in East Germany (before the GDR)? Here's an 1895 map of religious people per 1,000 residents:  So, mostly Protestants.
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icantfindaname posted:Is there a significant Frisian independence movement in the Netherlands? Nah not really, although there is a Fryske Nasjonale Partij. From Wikipedia: The FNP is a left-wing nationalist party, which advocates a federalist political system in which Frisians get more autonomy. It calls for greater autonomy of the region, government use, protection and recognition of the Frisian language and Frisian control over its gas reserves. Here's a map of active separatist movements in Europe. Red names indicate regions with movements that only claim greater autonomy within the actual state. Black names indicate regions with important secessionist movements, although both categories include moderate movements. The nations highlighted in colors are the territories claimed by the local nationalist groups, including areas out of the state's borders and cases of annexation to other states: 
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computer parts posted:Here's an 1895 map of religious people per 1,000 residents: The GDR really evened things out.
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What the heck is Jan Mayen doing on here, isn't its entire population people running the weather/radio station
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Basil Hayden posted:What the heck is Jan Mayen doing on here, isn't its entire population people running the weather/radio station
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Kurtofan posted:The GDR really evened things out. Also all the Protestant Germans leaving Poland after WWII.
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Basil Hayden posted:What the heck is Jan Mayen doing on here, isn't its entire population people running the weather/radio station Population: 18 Demanding greater autonomy is probably some kind of in-joke among the scientists that run the volcanic polar bear radio station.
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Maybe a silly question, but did the person who made this forgot to remove European nations that make this EU superstate from ranking? I find it hard to believe that 80 year life expectancy in only 24th in the world without all those Western European socialist hellholes. Same for GDP per capita.
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Disco Infiva posted:Maybe a silly question, but did the person who made this forgot to remove European nations that make this EU superstate from ranking? I find it hard to believe that 80 year life expectancy in only 24th in the world without all those Western European socialist hellholes. Same for GDP per capita.
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Corek posted:Also all the Protestant Germans leaving Poland after WWII. "Leaving" is putting it very mildly.
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Disco Infiva posted:Maybe a silly question, but did the person who made this forgot to remove European nations that make this EU superstate from ranking? I find it hard to believe that 80 year life expectancy in only 24th in the world without all those Western European socialist hellholes. Same for GDP per capita. The European Union as a whole was 46th according to the world factbook and that's including the constituent parts of the EU. (e: it was 46th in 2012, it's 35th now)
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computer parts posted:The European Union as a whole was 46th according to the world factbook and that's including the constituent parts of the EU. This answers my question, thanks.
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Lutherstadt Wittenberg was in old GDR territory, it'd figure that most of the old GDR was probably Protestant before 1945.
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Most of East Germany was formerly part of Protestant Prussia, so you would be right.
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Disco Infiva posted:Maybe a silly question, but did the person who made this forgot to remove European nations that make this EU superstate from ranking? I find it hard to believe that 80 year life expectancy in only 24th in the world without all those Western European socialist hellholes. Same for GDP per capita. Yeah, it looks like they didn't remove EU members from rankings. The EU ranks somewhere between 25th and 31st in GDP per capita when all countries are listed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita). When EU members are removed, it's between 15th and 19th place.
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ekuNNN posted:I found it, but it looks a lot crappier than I remember Bit odd that they used KTP for Finland instead of SKP, which is a bit bigger. http://www.skp.fi/
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Jesus Per Capita GDP is that low? What are they doing over there?
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Peanut President posted:Jesus Per Capita GDP is that low? What are they doing over there? GDP/capita in Dollars: Romania: 13,200 Bulgaria: 14,400 Croatia: 17,800 Latvia: 19,100 Hungary: 19,800 Poland: 21,100 Estonia: 22,400 Lithuania: 22,600 Portugal: 22,900 Greece: 23,600 Cyprus: 24,500 Slovakia: 24,700 Czech Republic: 27,200 Slovenia: 27,400 Malta: 27,500 And the poorest of the "typical" Western European countries: Italy: 29,600 Spain: 30,100 Now comes the EU aggregated: 34,500 And the countries that are richer: France: 35,700 Finland: 35,900 United Kingdom: 37,300 Denmark: 37,800 Belgium: 37,800 Germany: 39,500 Sweden: 40,900 Ireland: 41,300 Netherlands: 41,400 Austria: 42,600 Luxembourg: 77,900 So the EU would be at rank 19 in GDP/capita if we don't count the 11 EU countries ahead of the whole European Union. Of course GDP/capita isn't an exact science. I don't know if Americans are really 25% richer than the Dutch. Even if they are, are average Americans so much richer than average Dutch persons? Torrannor fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Torrannor posted:
GDP/Capita doesn't tell you much, at the least you have to look at GDP/Capita and Gini together.
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Peanut President posted:Jesus Per Capita GDP is that low? What are they doing over there? poo poo is expensive in EU and there are many developing countries in it also.  
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