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Torrannor posted:Of course GDP/capita isn't an exact science. I don't know if Americans are really 25% richer than the Dutch. Even if they are, are average Americans so much richer than average Dutch persons? Most people will think of 'the average American', 'the average European' etc as the median rather than the mean which is what GDP/capita measures.
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Hogge Wild posted:poo poo is expensive in EU and there are many developing countries in it also.
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kalstrams posted:I come from the red country and I have no idea what it means. Can someone explain it simply? You're not a filthy poor.
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Rumda posted:You're not a filthy poor. Anymore. 
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kalstrams posted:I come from the red country and I have no idea what it means. Can someone explain it simply? You vote Republican.
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kalstrams posted:I come from the red country and I have no idea what it means. Can someone explain it simply? On that map, the red countries are countries that were recently, but are no longer, green countries.
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Bongo Bill posted:On that map, the red countries are countries that were recently, but are no longer, green countries. Rumda posted:You're not a filthy poor. Disco Infiva posted:Anymore. Hogge Wild posted:You vote Republican.
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So Croatia and Slovakia are developed and Poland is not? That seems odd.
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ekuNNN posted:Nah not really, although there is a Fryske Nasjonale Partij. From Wikipedia: The FNP is a left-wing nationalist party, which advocates a federalist political system in which Frisians get more autonomy. It calls for greater autonomy of the region, government use, protection and recognition of the Frisian language and Frisian control over its gas reserves. English devolution is a marvellous beast to talk about. Currently, the English doesn't have an assembly, due to a general consensus that England very rarely can't get English needs through the Westminster parliament. That said, the two major issues that are brought up when it comes to English devolution are tuition fees and prescription charges, which were abolished in Wales and Scotland but still exist in England; tuition fees, controversially, were raised in 2004 by a margin of five votes, when about 17 Scottish Labour MPs voted for them, and consequently abolished them in Scotland. The primary supporters of English devolution tend to be the English Democrats and UKIP. Mostly, though, they seem to be interested in out-racisting each other. Currently, there are four regions in the UK that have devolved powers, in terms of the effective power they have: Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and London. Devolution to other areas is an open question and is most popular in Cornwall (due to its status as a Celtic nation), Wessex (also an ancient nation) and Yorkshire. Labour tried to bring in regional assemblies about ten years ago, but were cancelled after an advisory referendum in the North East (read: Northumberland, Durham, Newcastle, and Sunderland). Those three regions have active devolution movements and have sympathisers in the Liberal Democrats (who have generally supported devolution for decades), and field their own parties: Mebyon Kernow, Yorkshire First, and the Wessex Regionalist Party. Hilariously, Yorkshire First is pretty much a splinter off the Liberal Democrats, led by someone who was skipped over to replace his wife as a MEP (for conflict of interest reasons). TinTower fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Torrannor posted:Of course GDP/capita isn't an exact science. I don't know if Americans are really 25% richer than the Dutch. Even if they are, are average Americans so much richer than average Dutch persons? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html?abt=0002&abg=0
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The UK could totally give local autonomy to Cornwall, Wessex, Mercia, and Yorkshire. Don't know how the other bits would be organized.
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cheerfullydrab posted:The UK could totally give local autonomy to Cornwall, Wessex, Mercia, and Yorkshire. Don't know how the other bits would be organized. Do that and you'll start paying Danegeld again. 
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Hogge Wild posted:Do that and you'll start paying Danegeld again. I don't care if we were still worshipping trees when this poo poo was first going on, we Finns want a cut this time! We're the only ones with a real army anyway 
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Hogge Wild posted:Do that and you'll start paying Danegeld again. Wouldn't that Jork if its under Danish control? At least that's what CK2 taught me.
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Peanut President posted:Jesus Per Capita GDP is that low? What are they doing over there? Seriously? The answer to this is both completely obvious and so perfectly simple that I must assume you are joking or something.
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Vorpal Cat posted:Wouldn't that Jork if its under Danish control? At least that's what CK2 taught me. Jorvik.
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Hogge Wild posted:Do that and you'll start paying Danegeld again. That's a lot of swamps.
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Kainser posted:That's a lot of swamps. Welcome to early medieval England, enjoy your stay. Be sure to check out our world famous petty bickering nobles, crumbling infrastructure, terrible climate, and semi regular foreign invasions.
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Vorpal Cat posted:Welcome to early medieval England, enjoy your stay. Be sure to check out our world famous petty bickering nobles, crumbling infrastructure, terrible climate, and semi regular foreign invasions. Don't forget plague! Also this was Northumberland's golden age, so I'm totally fine with a return to that.
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The border between Wissex and the Danelaw is roughly the same as the modern division between the East and South East regions of England, isn't it?
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:The border between Wissex and the Danelaw is roughly the same as the modern division between the East and South East regions of England, isn't it? It also happens to run along the Thames. Edible Hat fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Hogge Wild posted:Do that and you'll start paying Danegeld again. How much remains of the swamps and alluvia shown in this map?
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Hedera Helix posted:How much remains of the swamps and alluvia shown in this map? Most of the remaining swamp land outside of nature reserves is in the Fens (north-east of Cambridge) and the Thames estuary. Most of Somerset and Yorkshire was drained centuries ago.
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Benito Hitlerstalin posted:Seriously? The answer to this is both completely obvious and so perfectly simple that I must assume you are joking or something. Congratulations! It was indeed a joke.
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Beamed posted:Jorvik. 
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I honestly think you could cobble together some heroic myths, make the flag a locally recognized symbol, get the term used by the media, among many other things, and drum up genuine Mercian nationalism within two generations. Then we'll see about the Danes. Disclaimer: only been to the UK twice, never in that region.
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cheerfullydrab posted:I honestly think you could cobble together some heroic myths, make the flag a locally recognized symbol, get the term used by the media, among many other things, and drum up genuine Mercian nationalism within two generations. This reminds me of G. K. Chesterton's The Napoleon of Notting Hill, in which a future king decides to establish London boroughs as microstates, in the interests of poetry and pageantry - quote:"To-morrow morning at twenty-five minutes past ten, if Heaven spares my life, I purpose to issue a Proclamation. It has been the work of my life and is about half finished. With the assistance of a whisky and soda, I shall conclude the other half to-night, and my people will receive it to-morrow. All these boroughs where you were born, and hope to lay your bones, shall be reinstated in their ancient magnificence...Hammersmith, Kensington, Bayswater, Chelsea, Battersea, Clapham, Balham, and a hundred others. Each shall immediately build a city wall with gates to be closed at sunset. Each shall have a city guard, armed to the teeth. Each shall have a banner, a coat-of-arms, and, if convenient, a gathering cry. I will not enter into the details now, my heart is too full. They will be found in the proclamation itself. You will all, however, be subject to enrolment in the local city guards, to be summoned together by a thing called the Tocsin, the meaning of which I am studying in my researches into history. Personally, I believe a tocsin to be some kind of highly paid official. If, therefore, any of you happen to have such a thing as a halberd in the house, I should advise you to practise with it in the garden." 
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cheerfullydrab posted:I honestly think you could cobble together some heroic myths, make the flag a locally recognized symbol, get the term used by the media, among many other things, and drum up genuine Mercian nationalism within two generations. For the moment, though, Mercian nationalism is really just a few blokes with beards that would make Alan Moore weep. So basically, Lib Dems.  (Seriously, though, Lib Dems get weirdly aroused at the idea of localism. There was a motion to their conference in Spring in which the argument was not whether regional assemblies should happen, but in what form (NUTS regions vs. contiguous local authorities). TinTower fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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Countries that use M16 rifles. (8 million produced) Countries that use Ak-47 rifles. (100 million produced!)  Red Nations that currently operate with the AK-47. Orange Nations that currently operate with AK-47 derivatives. Pink Nations that currently operate with modernized AK-47 derivatives. Grey Nations that never operated with the AK-47 and/or AK-47 derivatives.
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Hogge Wild posted:what do germans use The Germans use the Heckler und Koch G-36. Other European nations do as well, I know about Croatia for sure. No idea about the Swedes.
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Count Roland posted:Countries that use M16 rifles. (8 million produced) What does slate gray represent, in this map?
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Ammat The Ankh posted:I thought the Brits used the L-85 rifle. The maps simply show countries that have used the rifle in question in ay part of their regular military equipment, not what their primary rifle is. The Germans, Poles and Baltic states obviously still have plenty of AK47s and derivatives from cold war stock (obviously for Germany's case, from the eastern part) and post-cold war replacements for units already trained on them.
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Hogge Wild posted:e: and swedes Modified FN FNCs. Adapted for arctic conditions and cold weather poo poo. Before that; Heckler & Koch G3s. Cake Smashing Boob fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Hedera Helix posted:What does slate gray represent, in this map? Edit: according to Wikipedia the Afghan National Army replaced its M16s with a Polish AK-derivative Pitch fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Pitch posted:Former users. Australia, for instance, used some M16s in the Vietnam era but switched to a locally-built Steyr Aug in the late '80s. And almost immediately regretted that decision as the Steyr Augs magazine are plastic and would, at sub-zero temperatures celsius, crack if hit or dropped.
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