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| Elminster |
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20 | 6.45% |
| Elmara |
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20 | 6.45% |
| Entwine |
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13 | 4.19% |
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99 | 31.94% |
| El Kabong |
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153 | 49.35% |
| Elves |
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5 | 1.61% |
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Covok posted:What makes the physical cards so bad? Anime art or just bad layout? The layout's awful. Let me see if I can find a picture and I'll explain better. edit Here we go:  Look at all those symbols that mean absolutely nothing without some sort of knowledge of the game. They make the card look incredibly busy and even as someone who plays other card games I can't even guess at what this card does because I can't compare it to the (for example) Magic analog, or use the name of the ability to help me understand what it does. It's really busy and distracts from the art and doens't look very good. Which leads into problem number two, which is that there's effectively no break between the art and the next. Most card games will have that delineation to help you process it better, here it's all just one clusterfuck. The cards being full art means you not only have these little images all over the place, but they're mixing in with art and ughhhhhhh BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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dwarf74 posted:I love sword & planet poo poo, but hate the whole idea of Gor. Is there anything innovative about the setting, beyond misogyny?
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Aug 22, 2014 22:19
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Apparently there are giant riding birds. That's probably not unique, though.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:21
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Literally The Worst posted:The layout's awful. Let me see if I can find a picture and I'll explain better. Also it seems to suffer the same problem yu-gi-oh has where everything should honestly have about 2 less zeroes.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:27
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Literally The Worst posted:The layout's awful. Let me see if I can find a picture and I'll explain better. They also misspelled "apocalypse" which is not a super-great indicator of quality.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:29
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Tzarnal posted:Also it seems to suffer the same problem yu-gi-oh has where everything should honestly have about 2 less zeroes. I heard someone once say, no idea if it's true, that they did that so they could use decimals without using decimals. Literally The Worst posted:The layout's awful. Let me see if I can find a picture and I'll explain better. Yeah, I see what you mean. It's all pretty clustered. That said, I do believe icons are a good way to memorize things. Does the official playmat have a quick reference of the icon's meaning on it?
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Aug 22, 2014 22:31
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Tzarnal posted:Also it seems to suffer the same problem yu-gi-oh has where everything should honestly have about 2 less zeroes. I can understand that though, it makes everything seem that much bigger and cooler. I don't agree with it, but I get it. My biggest problem with Vanguard is the layout.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:31
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BrainParasite posted:Both men and women can end up HHUUUUUUUAAAAAAGHHH Goreans, in their simplistic fashion, often contend, categorically, that man is naturally free and woman is naturally slave. But even for them the issues are far more complex than these simple formulations would suggest. For example, there is no higher person, nor one more respected, than the Gorean free woman. Goreans do believe, however, that every woman has a natural master or set of masters, with respect to whom she could not help but be a complete and passionate slave girl. These men occur in her dreams and fantasies. She lives in terror that she might meet one in real life. When creepy fantasies and role-playing games collide, Zak S. wins. And if you hate this game, you're a feminist-hating sex-negative loser virgin who's incapable of imagining a world outside of your prudish room in your parent's moral abode. Besides, where's the proof that playing these kinds of games promotes negative attitudes towards women? It's all just a fantasy, dude  Please don't take this seriously, I'm just parodying that shitlord.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:33
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Covok posted:Yeah, I see what you mean. It's all pretty clustered. That said, I do believe icons are a good way to memorize things. Does the official playmat have a quick reference of the icon's meaning on it? I want to say that it does. I looked at a starter rulebook once for ten minutes, but it's been six months, easily. I just think it's a poor decision because you can't look at this card and translate it into familiar terms from other card games. For example, YGO, where I can go "Oh so basically when this dude hits the graveyard he sacs three guys and I put two onto the field from my yard" even though it's not phrased that way because there's enough commonality between the phrasing and Magic's rules. It's...not a barrier to entry, but it's definitely a thing that makes the game not as appealing as it cuold be to someone who just happens to see it. Now, who wants to hear my thoughts on resource systems in TCGs??????
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Aug 22, 2014 22:34
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Literally The Worst posted:Now, who wants to hear my thoughts on resource systems in TCGs?????? Me.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:38
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Hearthstone's can eat my taint. Magic is great. WoW TCG was the best. Kaijudo/Duel Masters runner up. YGO is poorer for not having one. (I like them to require either luck or skill (ideally a mix of both, leaning a bit more towards skill just because of how I play Magic more often than not), and I think WoW TCG's balancing act of "should I play this card as a resource or should I wait to see if I can play it next turn" is nifty as poo poo. Hearthstone does neither. Hearthstone can suckle my nuts.) BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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Aug 22, 2014 22:39
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Hearthstone is kind of a terrible game in general, though. It's the most boring part of magic (comparing creature numbers to other creature numbers), exacerbated by the fact that to balance permanent damage, you get a bajillion creatures to play.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:49
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Literally The Worst posted:Hearthstone's can eat my taint. Magic is great. WoW TCG was the best. Kaijudo/Duel Masters runner up. YGO is poorer for not having one. What do you think of Mojang's Scrolls?
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Aug 22, 2014 22:51
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PeterWeller posted:Umm, excuse me. That is a life style. A lifestyle that's fallen on pretty hard times if its options now are seeking greater recognition from the gamer culture.
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Aug 22, 2014 22:54
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18 Character Limit posted:A lifestyle that's fallen on pretty hard times if its options now are seeking greater recognition from the gamer culture. The Second Life contingent just isn't what it used to be.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:05
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Asymmetrikon posted:Hearthstone is kind of a terrible game in general, though. It's the most boring part of magic (comparing creature numbers to other creature numbers), exacerbated by the fact that to balance permanent damage, you get a bajillion creatures to play. Yeah they tok it in a really boring direction, and I'm someone who gets off on running duds into dudes. That they then removed any variance from the game by making it so you're always on-curve makes it even worse. I was hoping expansions would make it better but then you have to pay to play and it's balls hard and the grinding idea in general is terrible and Nope. Covok posted:What do you think of Mojang's Scrolls? Never heard of it. Tell me about it?
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Aug 22, 2014 23:08
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I'm not familiar with Hearthstone at all, but my ideal system is sLiterally The Worst posted:Hearthstone's can eat my taint. Magic is great. WoW TCG was the best. Kaijudo/Duel Masters runner up. YGO is poorer for not having one. Cool. I'm not at all familiar with Hearthstone, or Duel Masters, but I agree with the rest of this.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:26
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Literally The Worst posted:Hearthstone's can eat my taint. Magic is great. WoW TCG was the best. Kaijudo/Duel Masters runner up. YGO is poorer for not having one. What about the Pokemon TCG.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:30
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18 Character Limit posted:A lifestyle that's fallen on pretty hard times if its options now are seeking greater recognition from the gamer culture. It's only for the truly discerning neckbeard.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:30
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PeterWeller posted:It's only for the truly discerning neckbeard. 
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Aug 22, 2014 23:34
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Literally The Worst posted:Never heard of it. Tell me about it? Scrolls is a digital only, collectible card game created by Mojang, the creators of Minecraft. There are currently 4 main resources (Growth, Energy, Decay, Order) and 1 pseudo resource (Wild) to make multiresource decks more viable. Every turn, you may discard one card from your hand to either a) increase your max resource of 1 type by 1 or b) draw two more cards. The type of resource gained by discarded cards depends on the card you discard. You discard a card that costs Growth, you increase your max growth per turn by 1. At the beginning of every turn, you regain your current max of every resource you have discard for. In other words, if you start a turn with 3 Growth resources and discard a growth card for 1 more resource, you get 1 more resource (4) that turn and next turn your start with 4 Growth resources to spend. Every card costs a number of 1 type of resource. So a card may cost 3 Energy to use. Once you pay the cost of a card, you lose that much of the resource for the rest of your turn. If you had 3 Growth and you played a card costing 1 Growth, you have 2 Growth left to spend this turn. You can use as many cards as you like on a turn as long as you can pay the resource cost. They just added in Wild, a new pseudo resource to make multiresource decks more viable. Every turn, you can instead discard a card of any resource type to get 1 more Wild resource per turn. However, you can only get as many Wild resources as your current lowest resource. In other words, if you have 2 Growth and 1 Energy, you can only have a max of 1 Wild. You can spend Wild to supplement the cost of any other resource. Sacrificing for 6 resources (2 Growth, 2 Energy, 2 Wild) lets you play scrolls of either resource costing up to 4. I won't lie, I'm really bad at explaining things so...yeah. If I can just say, the game is still rough around the edges, it is still being worked on, but I like it. Covok fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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Aug 22, 2014 23:41
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everythingWasBees posted:What about the Pokemon TCG. Haven't played it. The fact that they don't bundle energy into packs is really stupid though. Covok posted:Scrolls is a digital only, collectible card game created by Mojang, the creators of Minecraft. ... So's Minecraft. Giving this one a miss.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:55
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Literally The Worst posted:So's Minecraft. Giving this one a miss. Well, the game is still in playtest. It's just an open one.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:58
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Literally The Worst posted:Hearthstone's can eat my taint. Magic is great. WoW TCG was the best. Kaijudo/Duel Masters runner up. YGO is poorer for not having one. One game I also had fun with was the old Marvel Trading Card Game for DS and PSP, which was based on the VS System; you also play your card as resources (one per turn) and it offers some nice mechanics like abilities and equipment, plus the appeal of using your favorite comic characters. I also played a bit of Scrolls but it didn't really grab me, though I'm not quite sure why; perhaps because it reminds both of a card and a tactics game and doesn't do either of them very well.
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Aug 23, 2014 00:06
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Ratoslov posted:There are both Secret Ultra Rare and Ultra Secret Rare. Well, it is a game designed to make the situations that occur in the comic strip possible, and it was designed after the comic strip had been going for a while...
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Aug 23, 2014 01:21
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Glazius posted:Well, it is a game designed to make the situations that occur in the comic strip possible, and it was designed after the comic strip had been going for a while... You keep using that word "designed" and I don't know why.
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Aug 23, 2014 01:35
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LongDarkNight posted:Stretch goal. grossssss
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Aug 23, 2014 01:37
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Literally The Worst posted:The layout's awful. Let me see if I can find a picture and I'll explain better. I can understand that. While I like most of the layout on the top, the bottom has waaay too small text. It makes it hard to play with a friend of mine who's legally blind. That being said, it's nice that all the cards look different from each other. It's pretty easy, once you get used to each card's appearence, to keep track of what they do. As for the Yu-Gi-Oh power levels, Vanguard doesn't actually have any boosts below the thousands-digit (at least as far as I know). When I play, I tend to just drop the zeros as a result. Is there some thing with the Japanese and thousand based numbers? Does it just sound cool?
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Aug 23, 2014 01:37
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Tulul posted:They also misspelled "apocalypse" which is not a super-great indicator of quality.
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Aug 23, 2014 01:38
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It totally should be though.
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Aug 23, 2014 01:49
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TheSoundNinja posted:I can understand that. While I like most of the layout on the top, the bottom has waaay too small text. It makes it hard to play with a friend of mine who's legally blind. It sounds cooler. As far as the layout goes, I wouldn't mind the lack of a frame or border if they blocked off the text on its own and didn't put it on a bad transparent overlay on top of the actual art. It's really just that one block where the card-specific stuff goes that I have a problem with (besides the multitude of symbols). I spent two years reading about and selling card games. This is all I have left.
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Aug 23, 2014 01:50
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Kai Tave posted:It totally should be though.
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Aug 23, 2014 02:05
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Zereth posted:We already have "Draconic".
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Aug 23, 2014 02:41
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Zereth posted:We already have "Draconic". Look man, I don't know what to tell you, "Dragonic" is a rad as hell word and more things should use it.
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Aug 23, 2014 02:48
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Rockopolis posted:It's because in this setting, "Draconic" applies to Draculas, so you need a different adjective for dragons. That's uh...that's one hell of an avatar ya got there, son.
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Aug 23, 2014 02:56
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Since Gen Con has come and gone, what new games are people interested in?
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Aug 23, 2014 04:14
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I hear Slap 45 is loving incredible.
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Aug 23, 2014 04:16
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LuiCypher posted:You can't do the hotel dance a year in advance - the future dates of GenCon are already blacked out. You have to go through the housing portal, which is the rough equivalent of internet WWI. Everybody gets up out of the trench at precisely 12:00pm when hotel reservations open, and only a lucky few manage to make it through the system with a hotel room next to the con for the entire duration of the con. That said, when I booked for next year (July 30! Remember!) I got the Conrad for under $300/night which felt about like how it was five years ago, but I did notice nearly every downtown Hilton-brand hotel was indeed already "unavailable" so yeah it seems like every year one or two more nearby hotels get tossed into the "do not let anyone book even a year out" bucket. My emergency system will fall apart someday  dwarf74 posted:
clockworkjoe posted:welp: http://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/chronicles-of-gor-rpg-crowdfunding/  There we go. I was talking to people at Gen-Con about Gor because somebody put a special misogyny bundle of every published Gor novel into the Auction, and I think my favorite thing about the kind of people who seem into this is that I cannot imagine many of them actually have the follow-through or even the, like, stamina to actually be good dominants in real life. Yes, 350 pound 60-year-old man, I am sure that we should all live according to Gor rules; now, humor me, just TRY to restrain your mate. Maybe that is why they like this stuff, though, because they want to be into this in real life but hate how the woman usually actually expects to enjoy herself.
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Aug 23, 2014 04:54
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Quarex posted:Hey nice; my construction worker friend who said he was going to win that book or "die trying" was so disappointed that you had to win a lottery just to get a chance that we left and never actually knew who won. Those dudes both look about like you would expect, "burliest possible nerd"-type. What were they doing? Just trying to hold the box out for as long as they could?
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Cassa posted:What were they doing? Just trying to hold the box out for as long as they could? That's not a box. That's a book.
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