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Alexzandvar posted:Anita is only lionized because of all the people who hate her, her actual videos are extremely boring and poorly done, as in first year college student quality. She also purposefully generates controversy by refusing to use any nuance what so ever, so her videos end up just coming off as extremely negative and nonconstructive. So in summary she is p. cool glad we agree
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*everyone harassed phil fish instead David Copperfield fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 23:10
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Anita is fine Zoe is terrible Phil Fish is terrible Games Journalists are pretty universally terrible Gamers are terrible oh and Adam Baldwin is in there somewhere
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Aug 28, 2014 23:10
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:Anita is fine This is pretty much it yeah close thread goodnight everybody
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Aug 28, 2014 23:11
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:she isn't as smart or as groundbreaking as she thinks she is but her "opponents" are so totally vile I feel bad for saying anything critical about her pretty much, she's pretty uninteresting. Obviously the hate she gets is undeserved, but the content she creates is very poorly done despite having a 6 figure budget.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:12
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Alexzandvar posted:Anita is only lionized because of all the people who hate her, her actual videos are extremely boring and poorly done, as in first year college student quality. She also purposefully generates controversy by refusing to use any nuance what so ever, so her videos end up just coming off as extremely negative and nonconstructive. Let's have a discussion. What are the points you feel she misses the most?
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Aug 28, 2014 23:12
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I don't get the whole "she is saying basic 1st year freshman feminism stuff" because if the arguments were so basic and obvious then the entire internet wouldn't explode whenever she says it. It seems disingenuous to say that something is obvious if the act of saying it causes a multi year controversy. Also, fart
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Aug 28, 2014 23:14
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Alexzandvar posted:pretty much, she's pretty uninteresting. Obviously the hate she gets is undeserved, but the content she creates is very poorly done despite having a 6 figure budget. I'd like her more if she actually blew all the extra kickstarter money on shoes or liquor or books or whatever it is feminist spokeswomen spend money on.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:14
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I love video games, especially the original Halo did Zoe Quinn make halo? No She is not a video game developer, none of those people were 'journalists', none of this matters
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Aug 28, 2014 23:14
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Azraelle posted:Let's have a discussion. What are the points you feel she misses the most? She takes TV Tropes seriously as a resource, instead of recognizing it as a place for broken sexual deviants to do cargo cult media analysis.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:15
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The important thing guys is the whole internet is changed now thanks to plucky change artists, and now all anyone talks about is which flower is the prettiest type of flower and how stupid the world was back when we thought of "stuff" oh what were we thinking.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:16
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Azraelle posted:Let's have a discussion. What are the points you feel she misses the most? Everything about video games that I like. Her points about video games that I dislike are pretty valid, though.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:16
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David Copperfield posted:I think we would all benefit if: IMO making fun of oversensitive losers is fine but doxxing or trying to stir IRL poo poo is going way too far. Also game journos aren't the only people pissy about the Patreon policy, lol 
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Aug 28, 2014 23:17
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I don't get the whole "she is saying basic 1st year freshman feminism stuff" because if the arguments were so basic and obvious then the entire internet wouldn't explode whenever she says it. She's basically the Bill O' Reily of gaming feminsim.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:17
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:she isn't as smart or as groundbreaking as she thinks she is but her "opponents" are so totally vile I feel bad for saying anything critical about her if ray lewis got in a fistfight with ray rice it would be perfectly acceptable not to root for either side and hope they both beat the poo poo out each other
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Aug 28, 2014 23:17
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i mean give me a heads up when al roker fucks gabe newell now we're cooking with fire
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Aug 28, 2014 23:17
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Upon a long reflection Zoe Quinn seems p. cool you are really loving lame man
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Aug 28, 2014 23:18
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Mulefisk posted:She's basically the Bill O' Reily of gaming feminsim. What does that even mean
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Aug 28, 2014 23:19
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Mulefisk posted:She's basically the Bill O' Reily of gaming feminsim. Actually that's pretty accurate. Misrepresenting examples on top of manipulative and dishonest tactics.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:19
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:She takes TV Tropes seriously as a resource, instead of recognizing it as a place for broken sexual deviants to do cargo cult media analysis. This is quite damning, but is the definition of tropes she quotes wrong?
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Aug 28, 2014 23:20
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What does that even mean
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Aug 28, 2014 23:20
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Proteus4994 posted:if ray lewis got in a fistfight with ray rice it would be perfectly acceptable not to root for either side and hope they both beat the poo poo out each other oh absolutely but really her opponents are generally way worse people than she is
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Aug 28, 2014 23:20
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:She was cucking with a loofah hot
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Aug 28, 2014 23:21
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Mister Fister posted:lol what did SA do now they know the goons hatred of the video games
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Aug 28, 2014 23:21
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Azraelle posted:This is quite damning, but is the definition of tropes she quotes wrong? Yes. Damsel in distress is only a trope on tee-vee tropes dot org.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:22
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"guys guys Anita is great because she trolls nerds! Isn't that totally cool! targeting an emotionally stunted group of awkward man children is great because I can laugh and pretend that I'm not one of those pathetic assholes even though I totally am" *feasts heartily on he own feces*
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Aug 28, 2014 23:23
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The problem with tropes, generally, is that they're meaningless by themselves. They can't be for or against anything. The context and reading determine what they mean.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:23
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I'd like her more if she actually blew all the extra kickstarter money on shoes or liquor or books or whatever it is feminist spokeswomen spend money on. The average weekly liquor budget for looking at anti-feminist posts on Youtube usually ranges at $40-$50. ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:She takes TV Tropes seriously as a resource, instead of recognizing it as a place for broken sexual deviants to do cargo cult media analysis. It'd be a great advancement to feminism if you were to point out how broken people are on TVTropes. Doctor Shapes posted:now they know the goons hatred of the video games
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Aug 28, 2014 23:23
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Biggie Shorty posted:"guys guys Anita is great because she trolls nerds! Isn't that totally cool! targeting an emotionally stunted group of awkward man children is great because I can laugh and pretend that I'm not one of those pathetic assholes even though I totally am" wow that kind of describes me? wtf?
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Aug 28, 2014 23:25
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What does that even mean She kinda looks like an old man.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:25
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It's so loving tough to figure out ethics in this video game dystopia. *buy game* *support dev* *befriend dev on Twitter/Facebook/IRL* *realize you're a biased actor in any article about said dev* *avoid getting pissy when said dev wants you to write about them more* Look at that. Five loving steps. That poo poo's tough, homie.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:26
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Azraelle posted:Let's have a discussion. What are the points you feel she misses the most? Thinking dead woman's bodies are at all attractive to men, or woman suffering as part of a narrative is bad even if it's necessary to help set the tone of the world the game is set in. She also tends to misrepresent the intent of her actually reasonable critics like sex positive feminists who are more concerned with woman's sexual liberation (IE have strong female characters, who cares if they are hot or not) than viewing every hot woman in a video games as an assault on woman everywhere.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:27
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I don't get the whole "she is saying basic 1st year freshman feminism stuff" because if the arguments were so basic and obvious then the entire internet wouldn't explode whenever she says it. even today most people still don't go to college, let alone take a feminism/women's studies class in college, let alone even be old enough to go to college
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Loot posted:It'd be a great advancement to feminism if you were to point out how broken people are on TVTropes. https://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyGoggs
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Aug 28, 2014 23:27
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I've noticed IGn has no articles about Zoe Quinn or anything about this whole controversy Is IGN the most unbiased gaming source? I say yes yes indeed
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Anitas tits are small rear end hell. That's why she wears those baggy rear end Curt Cobain shirts.
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Falsum posted:IMO making fun of oversensitive losers is fine but doxxing or trying to stir IRL poo poo is going way too far. Who are these people? I had a life before this topic. edit: Anita looked really good imo until she started reviewing games and decided she had to have corpse makeup.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:28
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I've noticed IGn has no articles about Zoe Quinn or anything about this whole controversy They're a big fish kinda place. Indie plebs need not apply. 
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Alexzandvar posted:Thinking dead woman's bodies are at all attractive to men, You missed the point quote:or woman suffering as part of a narrative is bad even if it's necessary to help set the tone of the world the game is set in. you missed the point quote:She also tends to misrepresent the intent of her actually reasonable critics like sex positive feminists who are more concerned with woman's sexual liberation (IE have strong female characters, who cares if they are hot or not) than viewing every hot woman in a video games as an assault on woman everywhere. no she doesn't Anyone who wants to say what Anita says is basic or obvious look at this here mother fucker right here missing the point like drat Look at it
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Gaming journalism has always been trash, gaming magazines did not pop into existence through the power of magic fairy dust, they were started by publishers and companies. The internet has made any need to go to a "news site" irrelevant because you can just go to said companies or games webpage to find out everything you need.
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