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Yeah seriously, how the gently caress is that a spoiler?
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Dexo posted:Yeah seriously, how the gently caress is that a spoiler? I guess maybe in that it tells us that the fight ends in that chapter?
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Aug 26, 2014 17:56
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To be perfectly fair it might be a spoiler that this fight would ever end.
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Dexo posted:Yeah seriously, how the gently caress is that a spoiler? Ok, I haven't read the RAW but, after that, I'm completely sure that Ippo loses. Otherwise there wouldn't be any interesting reactions from us and just our usual mockery. So yeah, Ippo loses. Which is good. Jedah posted:Yep, and this kind of nonsense is exactly why I don't post here anymore. I hate to break it to you, but that is not a spoiler. I'm not gonna sit here and argue about it, either. If you really feel that way, you better edit your post and add spoiler tags, because I just did. But my post has spoiler tags? trucutru fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Aug 26, 2014 18:04
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Chapters 1066 and 1067 are out. Ippo isn't going to lose, unfortunately.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:36
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I swear the last panel of that one. You can barely see Ippo's eye, it looks he's just fighting like a blood crazed zombie. Also cut off at page 13. It sucks when that happens. It also feels like dude is taking lessons from bleach. Fights never drag out this long.
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Aug 26, 2014 20:55
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Shindragon posted:I swear the last panel of that one. Now it seems like Ippo has no choice but to fight Martinez, right? Either way it still blows and this couldn't have been more predictable.
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Aug 26, 2014 21:28
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1068 1069 RIP Edit: Though Real talk ending the series now would be pretty great Dexo fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 15:27
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Dexo posted:1068 (Post-issue speculation) Some people were hoping for an Ashita No Joe ending, it wouldn't be that bad to have their wish granted. Alternately, I'd even accept a non-fatal career ender, with Ippo being his usual optimistic self and being glad for having had the opportunity to box in the first place, and all he's learned about himself and spirit and bla bla bla shonen manga.
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Aug 27, 2014 15:40
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Really, I don't give a poo poo about Ippo losing and it was at least partially foreshadowed with how lackadaisical he was before the fight. The first thing that came to my mind was, 'drat, now this manga is going to take even longer to end'. We're going to have to go through another recovery arc, then he'll probably have a rematch (and I imagine probably a fight with Miyata at some point) and who knows what else before finally having a crack at Martinez. Add to that all the side character fights and I don't see this wrapping up any time soon. Barring comical brain damaged Ippo ending.
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Aug 27, 2014 16:26
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Ok, this is not the kind of manga (Turbo-spoilers!)with Ashita-No-Joe endings. Ippo is going to be heavily injured and such but I *hope* this finally opens the Coach's stupid eyes so that he can actually train that idiot properly, which will make for a better manga. And, while Ippo trains (off-panel, or with a montage, keeping the radical new training secret would be nice) let's have some Takamura fights. I also love Takamura's expert observations. "Dude was knocked out by a single punch" says that idiot after a 2-chapter slugfest. And Sheer-heart-attack next to him also had some remarkably dumb thoughts, haha.
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Aug 27, 2014 16:41
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I'm really happy that it turned out this way. I don't mind it taking longer for him to reach the top if it means he learns to actually think while boxing. The coach remembered Miguel specifically telling him that their style would result in Ippo being injured/killed, so I'm pretty sure they're going to make some changes to his style now. edit: I also noticed that you can draw a comparison (that isn't in Ippo's favor) between this fight and that Vorg fight against that American boxer. I think there's a reason why Morikawa chose to show that fight when he did. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 16:53
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Wow. I was expecting Japanese burning spirit bullshit but he actually lost. Maybe the Coach will learn to stop making Ippo charge head on. Kinda wish the fight didn't drag out, I mean probably animation wise this fight will look great but it took too long to get the conclusion. Granted I know what the author was going for but maybe it would've been better if the panels didn't all feel the same.
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Aug 27, 2014 18:17
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This makes it easier for the author to fill in the necessary fights. It'll probably be Itagaki -> Sendo III -> Martinez/Miyata -> Martinez/Miyata The Miyata fight could be either for a belt with Ippo as the challenger or a belt unification Sendo will probably be for a challenger spot Also gives him time to get in Takamura's fights
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Aug 27, 2014 19:53
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That one punch that Ippo ate full on his face looked almost exactly like the punch Manny Paquiao took when he was knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez. It was glorious. Eagerly awaiting Hajime no Brain Damage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGI2GlURxbM
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Aug 27, 2014 20:03
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All's well that ends well. Can't wait to see what happens next.
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Aug 27, 2014 20:11
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1069 Was really brutal and very well done. I liked this fight even though it dragged quite a bit.
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Aug 27, 2014 20:44
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Huh. I was wrong. Oh so wrong. Hopefully Ippo and coach will actually take something away from this, instead of punching more logs into hills.
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Aug 27, 2014 20:44
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tbp posted:This makes it easier for the author to fill in the necessary fights. It'll probably be Itagaki -> Sendo III -> Martinez/Miyata -> Martinez/Miyata I think they will stick Imai in there somewhere as well. But right now that wouldn't make sense fight for the Japanese title again? How do they get to the Itagaki fight as well? Seems like a lot of shakeup is coming.
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Punc posted:Huh. I think it's actually headed in a good direction with respect to this. The coach genuinely seemed to have some huge regrets as he watched in horror his student - who he knew was following his teachings like it was the gospel - got the poo poo pounded out of him. Just look at his face. I think he knows full well that this was all his fault. I would have preferred if he lost to Gonzales' original more calculated style rather than after getting into a big slugfest, though. It would have made more sense. I'm still happy about it, though, and looking forward to reading this manga for the first time in probably years.
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Aug 27, 2014 20:49
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Now it's time for the Mashiba / Vorg arc.
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Ytlaya posted:I think it's actually headed in a good direction with respect to this. The coach genuinely seemed to have some huge regrets as he watched in horror his student - who he knew was following his teachings like it was the gospel - got the poo poo pounded out of him. Just look at his face. I think he knows full well that this was all his fault. I like that they did with Martinez exactly what Takamuras strength is. He's got the ability to out box almost anyone, and an unmatched wild side. Martinez obviously a bit less but Ippo doesn't have that, he only has one aspect to his fighting. It's been a pretty big theme
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Ytlaya posted:I think it's actually headed in a good direction with respect to this. The coach genuinely seemed to have some huge regrets as he watched in horror his student - who he knew was following his teachings like it was the gospel - got the poo poo pounded out of him. Just look at his face. I think he knows full well that this was all his fault. I believe that having Gonzales fight Ippo on Ippo's terms and still come out on top is supposed to drive another point home: that Ippo was beaten at his own game. Gonzales could mix up his styles and even maintain a degree of focus in his "beserker," mode. Gonzales had something to drive him and it ultimately made him stronger than Ippo. Ippo on the other hand can only fight one way and we saw in the lead-up to the fight a "weakness," in his lack of a personal goal, a dream. He was boxing in this fight to prove that his coach's training can take him to the world stage. He's living another man's dream. Ippo needs to start boxing for himself. He also needs to get better at boxing.
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runwiled posted:I believe that having Gonzales fight Ippo on Ippo's terms and still come out on top is supposed to drive another point home: that Ippo was beaten at his own game. Gonzales could mix up his styles and even maintain a degree of focus in his "beserker," mode. Gonzales had something to drive him and it ultimately made him stronger than Ippo. Yeah, and the great thing about this fight is that it makes it seem like Morikawa is aware of the weaknesses we've been harping on in this thread and is willing to address them. I had pretty much given up on that prior to this chapter and just assumed he was calling it in and would have shounen spirit drive Ippo to success.
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Calling it, next issue is Gonzalez beating Martinez and becomes rich and famous, eventually leading him to become the King of Mexico. Then he realizes that its all a dream and he is still falling to the ground from Ippo's punch which was so filled with samurai spirit that it caused him to hallucinate. He drops to the ground, Ippo wins and back to the bullshit.
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what is wrong with y'all. You're all using spoiler tags like this is interesting and consequential in anyway whatsoever
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Aug 28, 2014 00:31
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Is it over? Is he finally dead?
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Aug 28, 2014 01:12
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Time for Hajime no Takamura! Takamura takes on all ranks of the world, and moves on to challenge the universe!
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Nahxela posted:Time for Hajime no Takamura! Takamura takes on all ranks of the world, and moves on to challenge the universe! If only. Good to see Ippo being knocked out by Mexican not-so-ubermensch Gonzalez, and hoping that this will lead to him changing his style. I kept wondering why the coach kept thinking about the Woli fight, and it was nice to see it spelled out in such a way. If anything Ippo's main weakness is that he's become too straightforward. Comparing this to the Sendo title fight, where he even faked spirit punches, he's come to rely only on his strength and pushing forward. He's a one trick pony, and once someone figures that trick, he's done for. I wonder if it will be like Rocky 3, where he will be coached by someone who actually cares to round out his skills, by focusing more on his speed and mobility, and not trying to win every fight by K.O.
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Kal-L posted:I wonder if it will be like Rocky 3, where he will be coached by someone who actually cares to round out his skills, by focusing more on his speed and mobility, and not trying to win every fight by K.O. Mayhaps we'll see his skillset expanded by the other coaches in the gym, who I'm sure would also like to be relevant again.
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Shinjobi posted:Mayhaps we'll see his skillset expanded by the other coaches in the gym, who I'm sure would also like to be relevant again. Hmmm... would be interesting if they started him sparring against Itagaki more and working out something there.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:50
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The final match will mirror his Japanese Title, therefore Miyata has to be Champ in order for Ippo to be the challenger.
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Ippo's main weakness is that he seems fight most of his match unconscious because he style is for him to get punched to death and then carried on by his raging Japanese spirit.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:52
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As well deserved as this loss was, the recovery arc is likely going to be unbearable.
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Ippo suffers fatal brain damage and dies after this fight. We cut to ten years in the future. Kamogawa's gym has been left destitute after Kamogawa's death. Takamura, now too old to fight and stripped of his former titles due to being A Goddamn Literal Rapist, struggles to reclaim the gym's glory days. But one day, a now-grown Thai outboxer arrives, looking to follow in Ichiro Miyata's footsteps. Could this be Takamura's final shot at redemption? Hajime no DoubleDonut fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Aug 30, 2014 21:17
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DoubleDonut posted:Ippo suffers fatal brain damage and dies after this fight. We cut to ten years in the future. Kamogawa's gym has been left destitute after Kamogawa's death. Takamura, now too old to fight and stripped of his former titles due to being A Goddamn Literal Rapist, struggles to reclaim the gym's glory days. But one day, a now-grown Thai outboxer arrives, looking to follow in Ichiro Miyata's footsteps. Could this be Takamura's final shot at redemption? I had to look up who Payao was. Totally didn't remember him at all.
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Ytlaya posted:I had to look up who Payao was. Totally didn't remember him at all. You could also do Rocky V, but with Date or Take's son, or Takamura's little brother. Edit: Also I'm dumb and I meant Payao's little brother who is named Chana.
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Aug 30, 2014 21:22
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Just think: this totally could have happened like 300 issues ago and spared us from unrelenting bullshit wins over forgettable characters who contributed nothing to the story.
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Aug 31, 2014 07:02
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Ha-ha people think anything will change. "Ippo you just need to try harder!"
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SirDan3k posted:Ha-ha people think anything will change. I dunno, this time seems like it might be different. Particularly the coach thinking of the Woli fight, which seemed to indicate that he knows their current strategy is awful and will lead to Ippo getting brain damage. (I just want to be optimistic about the first interesting development in this manga in literally years  )
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