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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



It is kinda weird how Zan changes elements from game to game.

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
See? So it's perfectly understandable for me to be confused. :colbert:

Jerks.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Moltrey posted:

So hey, I'll probably play Nocturne soon so tell me about Nocturne.
The Nocturne porno gets a little weird with all the fisting, but it gets really good once Dante and Raidou double team Nyx. I'd give it a solid 8.5/10

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
Personally i'm waiting for the Persona 4 Golden Porno.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I dunno, man. Seven Marie scenes sounds excessive and repetitive, and they're going to treat it like Yu's been loving her all along. That new Adachi scene though...

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Butt Ghost posted:

The Nocturne porno gets a little weird with all the fisting, but it gets really good once Dante and Raidou double team Nyx. I'd give it a solid 8.5/10

Cool. Should I watch it before or after I finish Nocturne?


Or while I'm playing it?

Freak Futanari posted:

Personally i'm waiting for the Persona 4 Golden Porno.

I wouldn't get you're hopes up. It's just the Persona 4 porno with Marie crudely shoehorned into it.

Now the Dancing All Night porno? Wow. You can't imagine the step? Don't miss it, baby.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Moltrey posted:

Cool. Should I watch it before or after I finish Nocturne?


Or while I'm playing it?
Honestly, the porno is really good substitute. They even include the True Demon Ending. But you can play Nocturne one-handed, so you'd be good doing both at the same time. Hell, it even helped me get past Matador.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
The 4chan guy that has been ripping the P4U2 assets just said 2chan leaked Persona 4 Golden on PS3 being announced tonight.

E: Nothing on 2ch from what I see but i have limited web access, there are at least 30 boards dedicated to games, and my phone is nearly dead.

Of course last time Persona 3 Platinum was supposed to be a thing and we got anime.

Dehry fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Sep 1, 2014

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



That sounds like a pretty dumb thing to do nearly a year into the PS4's lifespan (well, more like half a year for Japan but still).

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Manatee Cannon posted:

That sounds like a pretty dumb thing to do nearly a year into the PS4's lifespan (well, more like half a year for Japan but still).

Par for the course for P4 then

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Manatee Cannon posted:

That sounds like a pretty dumb thing to do nearly a year into the PS4's lifespan (well, more like half a year for Japan but still).

Persona 4 was released 2 years after the PS3. This is not a new thing in the slightest.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Imagine the anger if P4GPS3 is shown instead of P5.

Delicious and... oh god that's blue balls kicking in!

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Dragonatrix posted:

Persona 4 was released 2 years after the PS3. This is not a new thing in the slightest.

The game is already finished so this is a perfect opportunity to learn how to make a game on the new system and not get stuck a generation behind again.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Life is amazing.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
I heard rumblings they were going to port it to PS4, and it would be announced at TGS.

But that particular announcement list also said Shenmue III would be announced there so it's probably complete BS

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Some game journalist from some European gaming site was dancing around the fact that Yu Suzuki might have pretty much confirmed Shenmue 3 in some exclusive meeting, so maybe there is a little tiny sliver of hope.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

I could see a P4 port for the PS3 if only to let them double dip on the work of bringing all the demons into HD that they have to do for Persona 5.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
the best direction for gaming to go at this point is backwards, toward the fun end of gaming history, as far away from modern gaming convention as possible. finish stories, worldbuilding sequels, remake old classics with new shine, and crossovers, stuff like that. it seems to be going that way across the board

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


They should triple dip and put P3P on PS3. Or Vita, whatever, just add trophies and make it look a little nicer and I will buy it again.

Factory Davey
Jan 9, 2010

I am aware of what the hands look like. I did my best. :(
Put FES on the Vita, put P3P on the PS3, don't change anything about either version.

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Moltrey posted:

So hey, I'll probably play Nocturne soon so tell me about Nocturne.

I've beaten SMT I and II so I've gotten my sea legs with the MegaTen series, but what are some other good tips.

Always have a demon on hand with Fog Breath or Sukunda and Sukukaja skills. Accuracy buffs and debuffs will get you through some of the hardest fights. Always have Dekunda and Dekaja, too.

The Pass command consumes only half a turn by taking no action, and it can be useful to increase your damage potential by setting up combos (i.e. Focus skill and then a physical move in the same turn).

Some demons can 'evolve' once they've learned all their skills and your level is high enough.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
ya know


i just want to take the time out to say gently caress strange journey and gently caress the sperglord who wrote and designed the negotiation system for it

that is all

Rockstar Massacre
Mar 2, 2009

i only have a crazy life
because i make risky decisions
from a position of
unreasonable self-confidence

Neurion posted:

Some demons can 'evolve' once they've learned all their skills and your level is high enough.

Definitely do not feel obligated to keep a demon around until it evolves. For some of them, you'll be waiting a long fuckin' time.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Race Realists posted:

ya know


i just want to take the time out to say gently caress strange journey and gently caress the sperglord who wrote and designed the negotiation system for it

that is all

I agree.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Utgardaloki posted:

Definitely do not feel obligated to keep a demon around until it evolves. For some of them, you'll be waiting a long fuckin' time.

It took me a long time to realize it, but the best way to play Nocturne is to not get attached to a demon. Fuse that fucker ASAP if it can make you a stronger one, just pay attention to when they learn skills so youre transferring over the good ones. Because you are going to be spend a lot of time cancelling and retrying a fusion to get the skills you want to roll on the dice. :v:

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Furnaceface posted:

It took me a long time to realize it, but the best way to play Nocturne is to not get attached to a demon. Fuse that fucker ASAP if it can make you a stronger one, just pay attention to when they learn skills so youre transferring over the good ones. Because you are going to be spend a lot of time cancelling and retrying a fusion to get the skills you want to roll on the dice. :v:

gently caress being unable to pick the skills you keep :suicide: That was a REAL pain in the rear end in the True Demon Ending, trying to get Pierce on all my party members.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

No bullshit, I seriously believe the designer has no earthly loving clue how actual people have an actual conversation with one another

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



You aren't talking to people, you're talking to demons. Is this your first SMT game? Demon negotiation isn't just a Strange Journey thing.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Manatee Cannon posted:

You aren't talking to people, you're talking to demons. Is this your first SMT game? Demon negotiation isn't just a Strange Journey thing.

Demon negotiation sucks balls in every SMT and should go away. There, I said it and I stand by it.

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Don Gato posted:

Demon negotiation sucks balls in every SMT and should go away. There, I said it and I stand by it.

Oh, I just remembered I have an errand to run! See ya! Thanks for the 5,000 macca and revival bead, sucker!

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I 100% agree. Demon Negotiation is a dumb, dumb mechanic.

OneDeadman
Oct 16, 2010

[SUPERBIA]
I like demon negotiation because of all the dumb things demons say, but the novelty of that wears off pretty quickly and becomes a massive chore. If it wasn't completely 100% random I would probably be okay with it.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Manatee Cannon posted:

You aren't talking to people, you're talking to demons. Is this your first SMT game? Demon negotiation isn't just a Strange Journey thing.

Nope. Negotiation is a hell of alot more tolerable in Nocturne than it is in this game

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Sep 1, 2014

Achernar
Sep 2, 2011

Utgardaloki posted:

Definitely do not feel obligated to keep a demon around until it evolves. For some of them, you'll be waiting a long fuckin' time.

I've found evolved demons to be somewhat better than their unevolved counterparts. They get a stat boost when the evolve, and the keep their old skills which is useful because the demons generally evolve along the same element lines. Also, with two sizable exceptions you'll only need 5-10 levels to evolve a demon, so it's not that much of a hurdle.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I liked it in Raidou because the demon would bug out, but then in another encounter they'd say "hey I did my thing, thanks for waiting!" SO AND SO HAS BECOME YOUR DEMON.

But that's the only time I liked it, gently caress demon negotiation.

Rockstar Massacre
Mar 2, 2009

i only have a crazy life
because i make risky decisions
from a position of
unreasonable self-confidence

Achernar posted:

I've found evolved demons to be somewhat better than their unevolved counterparts. They get a stat boost when the evolve, and the keep their old skills which is useful because the demons generally evolve along the same element lines. Also, with two sizable exceptions you'll only need 5-10 levels to evolve a demon, so it's not that much of a hurdle.

Aha, you are correct, but if you take it as a rule to hold on to your demons until they evolve, you're gonna being holding onto Lilim for loving ever. And I think there are similar examples, though none quite so cruel.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Race Realists posted:

Nope. Negotiation is a hell of alot more tolerable in Nocturne than it is in this game

It's really not, SJ at least has that app that makes your first negotiation gently caress-up with a demon get overlooked.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012

Alteisen posted:

I liked it in Raidou because the demon would bug out, but then in another encounter they'd say "hey I did my thing, thanks for waiting!" SO AND SO HAS BECOME YOUR DEMON.

But that's the only time I liked it, gently caress demon negotiation.

Yeah, it was pretty great, especially when you see another demon of the same kind and you're dead set on killing it for earlier and then it apologizes before you kill it and everything's good.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Brother Entropy posted:

It's really not, SJ at least has that app that makes your first negotiation gently caress-up with a demon get overlooked.




too bad money is a little hard to keep track of in SJ

also the password system is by far the most broken system in the franchise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeTRX9wt5Wg


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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Don Gato posted:

Demon negotiation sucks balls in every SMT and should go away. There, I said it and I stand by it.

I kinda agree, but saying it's bad in Strange Journey but not the others is crazy.

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