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Communocracy posted:Also I haven't seen this come up in the thread yet: Nothing like starting the day feeling sick to my stomach about seeing 1st amendment rights trampled and the officer cleared even with video evidence of him in the wrong.
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Communocracy posted:My god, I think you've single-handedly destroyed any desire I had to go to Burning Man: Well it is pretty representative of libertarian thought: a bunch of people gather together and bring in food, fuel, shelter, and supplies from the pre-existing civilization, enjoy invisible protection from that established civilization, and call it self-reliance.
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Not even accurate. I'm sure that title rightly belongs to someone in this thread.
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Everblight posted:YES WE TAN Already taken by Boehner, sorry.
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Hedera Helix posted:Norquist practically invented that line of thought. Yeah but usually the originators of reactionary thought are just using it as a means to an end, they haven't religiously internalized it (see Lee Atwater). Fried Chicken posted:Nothing like starting the day feeling sick to my stomach about seeing 1st amendment rights trampled and the officer cleared even with video evidence of him in the wrong. Cops get away with this and worse all the time. The shocking part is that he did this to a white (I think) woman.
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Shear Modulus posted:The shocking part is that he did this to a white (I think) woman. Woman should have been at home making dinner for her husband, not out trying to make men look bad.
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Sep 2, 2014 16:38
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Turns out Cantor found the best way to get over his primary loss was to fall rear end backwards into a pile of money: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/02/eric-cantor-joins-wall-street-investment-firm-will-open-washington-office/ quote:Former House majority leader Eric Cantor is joining a Wall Street investment bank as vice chairman and managing director, the firm announced this morning. However they may not want to press his experience in risk assessment.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:11
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Police arrest black political candidate for distributing literature on voting rights If this poo poo was happening in a movie we'd roll our eyes at how heavy handed it was trying to get across its "establishment are the bad guys" message
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Sep 2, 2014 17:33
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^^^ Well that just loving crushed the my good natured punning  Vahakyla posted:gently caress the comments. "Go Joe!" Or "We've been Biden our time for long enough!"
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cheese eats mouse posted:And they all drink Monster and have horrible breath due to all the caffeine. I used to work with these guys when I was in warehouses. We should be encouraging such consumption; eventually the problem will solve itself through heart conditions and diabetes.
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Sep 2, 2014 18:19
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Fried Chicken posted:Police arrest black political candidate for distributing literature on voting rights quote:“They said they would charge me for distributing literature,” Turner told ThinkProgress when he was released a few hours later. “I asked [the policeman] for the ordinance number [being violated], because they can’t put handcuffs on you if they cannot tell you why they’re detaining you. I said, ‘Show me where it’s illegal to do this.’ But he would not do it. The officer got mad and grabbed me. Then he told me that I was resisting arrest!” This really seems like one of those urban legends that isn't remotely true. Right up there with "they have to tell you the truth if you ask whether they're a cop!" Fake edit: the person was asking the officer for an ordinance number, which seems a very different request from being told why you're being detained.
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Grundulum posted:This really seems like one of those urban legends that isn't remotely true. Right up there with "they have to tell you the truth if you ask whether they're a cop!" Yeah, the actual truth is "cops can do whatever the gently caress they want."
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They can grab you for any/no reason and hold you for (I believe) 48 hours, at which point Habeas Corpus kicks in and you need to be charged or released. A good lawyer can make some hay of baseless detention, but it gets sticky without good documentation.
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Yeah, but if you chug a bottle of vodka and throw your keys out the window they can't arrest you.
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Sep 2, 2014 18:50
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Fried Chicken posted:Police arrest black political candidate for distributing literature on voting rights This loving country.
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Sep 2, 2014 18:53
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Have police decided to criminalize the people who put lovely dance club cards on cars now or is it a special law put in place by officers at that exact moment against blacks distributing anything that can be read?
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Nonsense posted:Have police decided to criminalize the people who put lovely dance club cards on cars now or is it a special law put in place by officers at that exact moment against blacks distributing anything that can be read? The article posted:There is a local ordinance prohibiting leafleting on cars. But according to local activist Casey Throneburg, who also filmed the arrest, it is almost never enforced, and “certainly not with handcuffs.” So yeah. Being political while black. e: Basically, it was the usual "cop grabs someone, who instinctively flinches and pulls back, and the cop shouts 'resisting arrest' and boom, off to jail for a while." And of course no charges filed because the point was to intimidate, not to prevent crime. isildur fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Nonsense posted:Have police decided to criminalize the people who put lovely dance club cards on cars now or is it a special law put in place by officers at that exact moment against blacks distributing anything that can be read? Businesses? They're free to put any paint-damaging bullshit on your car that they choose to. Duh.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:This loving country. Immigrants always welcome in the Narco(unoffcial)/Petro(official) State of Canada! 
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Nonsense posted:Have police decided to criminalize the people who put lovely dance club cards on cars now or is it a special law put in place by officers at that exact moment against blacks distributing anything that can be read? Theres an ordinance against it according to the article. I think a lot of places have that, but they have to actually catch the person distributing the fliers and can't go after the business that is being advertised. And you know its a fine not jail time.
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El Scotch posted:Immigrants always welcome in the Narco(unoffcial)/Petro(official) State of Canada! It's a constantly tempting thought.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:This loving country. Only 9 days til flag-burning day!
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Ugh TV stations have largely stopped the 9-11 remembrance-a-thon right? I recall years past when stations would just scroll all three thousand+ names all morning.
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I don't know how to get the address of a vine embedded in a tweet clear of the tweet itself on my phone ap, so I'll just link the tweet itself. Have some Fox News stupidity. https://twitter.com/africasacountry/status/506901444877099008
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Fried Chicken posted:I don't know how to get the address of a vine embedded in a tweet clear of the tweet itself on my phone ap, so I'll just link the tweet itself. That's remarkable. Even for them...
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So this storify just adds to the Ferguson fun: https://storify.com/DKShan/backoffice-politics-and-misdealings-in-missouri It doesn't surprise me, but jesus.
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ewe2 posted:So this storify just adds to the Ferguson fun: https://storify.com/DKShan/backoffice-politics-and-misdealings-in-missouri I tried talking about this in the Brown thread before I just couldn't keep up with the pace of new posts. [Ask] me about any specifics you wanna know, and I'll try to point* you in the right direction. *death to leakers is an official policy that I don't wanna tangle with
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So, what precisely is happening?
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Shbobdb posted:So, what precisely is happening? In Missouri? Nixon wants Clinton's Veep slot, McCullahhh wants Gov, Obama wants heads, the AG wants Gov and is a teaparty true-believer willing to put partisan differences aside to protect the police and not look 'soft on crime' (read as friendly to, in some frank words I've heard uttered in JeffCity, uppity negroes) and justice is a long way off.
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"If Obama really cared about women, he wouldn't of let us block equal pay legislation"-GOP The link the the GOP twitter post if anybody wants it: https://twitter.com/GOP/status/506524410158006272
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hangedman1984 posted:"If Obama really cared about women, he wouldn't of let us block equal pay legislation"-GOP
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hangedman1984 posted:"If Obama really cared about women, he wouldn't of let us block equal pay legislation"-GOP To me this is somewhat worrisome because this level of disconnect is eventually going to cause their followers to react very very badly when their version of reality keeps getting rejected by the public at large. I could honestly see a Tea Party type losing an election and honestly refusing to concede and his followers honestly becoming violent. At this rate if November is anything but a massive Republican sweep it is going to be election fraud. If a Republican does not win POTUS in 2016 there may be (small) but actual rebellions over it.
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Prester John posted:To me this is somewhat worrisome because this level of disconnect is eventually going to cause their followers to react very very badly when their version of reality keeps getting rejected by the public at large. I could honestly see a Tea Party type losing an election and honestly refusing to concede and his followers honestly becoming violent. You mean like in Mississippi? I don't think there has been any direct physical violence yet, but there has been a ton of threats, intimidation and abuse, and one suicide.
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hangedman1984 posted:"If Obama really cared about women, he wouldn't of let us block equal pay legislation"-GOP
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Wait what on earth am I looking at my brain cannot process this. concerntrolling.png
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Prester John posted:To me this is somewhat worrisome because this level of disconnect is eventually going to cause their followers to react very very badly when their version of reality keeps getting rejected by the public at large. I could honestly see a Tea Party type losing an election and honestly refusing to concede and his followers honestly becoming violent.
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hangedman1984 posted:"If Obama really cared about women, he wouldn't of let us block equal pay legislation"-GOP Do they not know that people can look this stuff up, or do they just not care?  "Let's just fling as much poo poo against the wall as we possibly can, there's no way they can clean up all of it!"
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Fried Chicken posted:Police arrest black political candidate for distributing literature on voting rights I can't believe someone used a "if you can't tell me the ordinance you can't arrest me" argument to challenge a cop. This isn't Dungeons and Dragons. There is no Protection From Law Enforcement spell that a citizen can utter that makes police have to leave you alone. Unless you have Power Word Diplomatic Immunity and its required components you don't challenge a cop like this (and I still wouldn't risk it).  None of this excuses the cops going overboard but challenging a cop's authority is never a good idea. Unless you're white and have a bunch of people in the area with guns and a desire to kill law enforcement (Bundy ranch) in which case you might get away with it temporarily.There needs to be a federal law that prohibits "resisting arrest" being charged against anyone unless they were actually being arrested with cause. It also needs to reinforce that resist has to be physical because I'm pretty sure the COTB threads had 'verbal resisting' in some of the more blatant cases of abuse. Grundulum posted:Fake edit: the person was asking the officer for an ordinance number, which seems a very different request from being told why you're being detained. A reasonable request, but I'm going to loving stunned if cops can give the number more often than not unless it's something they deal with on a regular basis.
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Cheekio posted:Turns out Cantor found the best way to get over his primary loss was to fall rear end backwards into a pile of money: Christ, I saw this news this morning and my first reaction was "perfect". My wife had no idea who or what I was talking about. El Scotch posted:We should be encouraging such consumption; eventually the problem will solve itself through heart conditions and diabetes. Leave it to the free market! Raskolnikov38 posted:Ugh TV stations have largely stopped the 9-11 remembrance-a-thon right? I recall years past when stations would just scroll all three thousand+ names all morning. The anniversary has to end in a five or a zero, otherwise you just have to wear a flag pin or some poo poo and perhaps burn two candles, one for each tower. Two years from now, when it's the 15th anniversary, you'll be required to sit in front of your TV and cry. Then burn two candles. What I'm saying is that you don't have to cry this year. Unless you feel like it I mean.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Do they not know that people can look this stuff up, or do they just not care? I guess they figure people on The Twitters are all progressive enough to support equal pay so they'll customize their messaging to the audience. If Democrats were as smart as the GOP they'd start buying airtime on Rush Limbaugh to say Republicans have a secret plan to steal all your guns or taking out ads in the Wall Street Journal warning about the GOP's plot to lull everyone into a false state of security then institute communism that was cooked up at last year's Bohemian Grove.
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