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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
did zoe ever file a police report about getting mugged?

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Radical
Apr 6, 2011

^^ didnt someone put up 1 grand for anita to post the police report she was gonna make? im betting she didnt post it

has goon hero yahtzee put his opinion up about this yet or did he have the good sense to stay out of the line of fire

big duck equals goose
Nov 7, 2006

by XyloJW
No.

Edit: well, actually, kinda. In one of his drowning out vids he said he sided more anti-SJW or something but it was just all fair weather poo poo.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Radical posted:

^^ didnt someone put up 1 grand for anita to post the police report she was gonna make? im betting she didnt post it

has goon hero yahtzee put his opinion up about this yet or did he have the good sense to stay out of the line of fire

no matter what you think of yahtzee or his so called humor i'm pretty, pretty, pretty certain he's smart enough to just :lol: at everything involved because he's a bitter alcoholic misanthrope

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Radical posted:

^^ didnt someone put up 1 grand for anita to post the police report she was gonna make? im betting she didnt post it

has goon hero yahtzee put his opinion up about this yet or did he have the good sense to stay out of the line of fire

Yahtzee is friends with Jim Sterling and they regularly make some sort of poetry thing together, so I doubt he'll say much. He will almost certainly mention all of this during his weekly LP/Podcast though, or Gabriel--his co-host--will in his stead.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Yahtzee is friends with Jim Sterling and they regularly make some sort of poetry thing together, so I doubt he'll say much. He will almost certainly mention all of this during his weekly LP/Podcast though, or Gabriel--his co-host--will in his stead.

WTF did Jim Sterling say to make him a SJW.
Tried finding it, cant see it.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Sephiroth_IRA posted:

The other reason I'm still interested is just because I've enjoyed seeing a few people switch sides, the censorship, the completely unresearched articles, the admissions from bloggers, the forced apologies and hopefully potential financial damage or layoffs.
Yeah I really want to see some heads roll over this. Hoping to see one of several people get canned and the rest grovel with apologies.

Starting to wonder if its going to happen though. Like I know stuff like the notyourshield and gamegate tags are sticking around and Reddit/4chan is trying to hit the advertisers and bigger fish but I see two main barriers to much coming from this:
1. Right now they're still publicly the victims, there hasn't really been anyone major telling the other side of the story. Sure the people following it know what's going on but if they did try to discipline people I could see the risk of negative press from those who don't know the story. They could spin it like whistleblowers getting fired or "gamers harass woman, get them fired".
2. Sure we got some nerdlords contacting sponsors and such but lets be honest here are we really going to get any successful boycotts going? Angry letters might catch the attention of the higher ups but if it doesn't actually affect sales or anything its not like they would care. I honestly can't think of the last boycott that did anything of note because no one can stick to them.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Sad thing is, I predict they will win the PR war, because they have--and continue to--stuck to the point that "Zoe and Anita were harassed/left their homes, this is the toxic atmosphere that exists when women speak out!" and that's the only soundbite that news outlets will care about.

All well and good, but what value does this community produce. Gamers buy games from AAA and indie game developers. If gaming journalism (which is just a shill for developers) alienate those consumers, then they have no value to developers or the consumers they've abused.

Anyone can set up a blog, a website, or a hashtag and curry favor with developers and create a community among gamers and now is a ripe opportunity for anyone interested in doing so to go ahead, hang up a shingle without SJWs breathing down their necks.

Under the influence of SJWs, gaming journalism websites are calling an end to the "gamer" identity, you know, the very same people who are interested in logging onto their lovely operations.

Yes, SJW/gaming sites will win the narrative but will lose the their relevance in the process.

Space_Doc
Oct 15, 2003

You are now reading a sentence

big duck equals goose posted:


3. They felt depression quest didn't touch what depression is really like. In example, there is no segment in the game where you play pre-teen sex-anime flash games at home naked at wish for the sweet release of death while jacking it and crying at the same time.


Sounds like a great opportunity for DLC.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
This is the only thing happening in my life and i just want it to be over #hitlergate

literally a hog
Jan 5, 2006

Mandarrrrrk! Bring me the head of Dexter and Dee Dee shall forever be yours!

The Monkey Man posted:

For what it's worth, the Guardian is definitely a mainstream publication and it ran that article by Jenn Frank that didn't mention that she and Zoe were friends in the first version.

They ran a new one today

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/03/gamergate-corruption-games-anita-sarkeesian-zoe-quinn

Spinning Robo
Apr 17, 2007

happyhippy posted:

WTF did Jim Sterling say to make him a SJW.
Tried finding it, cant see it.

Sterling is a feminist and he made fun of the jontron hashtag. Thats enough for some people.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



whats yahtzees take on fedoras. this is important info. does his lovely cartoon version of him still have a hat

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

happyhippy posted:

WTF did Jim Sterling say to make him a SJW.
Tried finding it, cant see it.

Ah, my mistake, I forget that Sterling isn't Moviebob.

I had thought that Sterling had written something about this whole debacle too, but I don't know anything specific. Either way, since Yahtzee makes bread and butter with the Escapist, he'll still tread careful.

Automatic Slim posted:

Yes, SJW/gaming sites will win the narrative but will lose the their relevance in the process.

Maybe that'd be for the best, although I really dislike how toxic this PC mob mentality has made any sort of public discourse. They call out all sorts of fairly wicked behavior, but people like Lindy West and the Jezebel cronies and these insane Tumblerites have been a thorn in the side of comedy, gaming, and pretty much any other form of expression and creativity for a few years now, and I'd like them to stop.

FrostedButts
Dec 30, 2011

What bloated way of saying "make it all go away."

jpmeyer
Jan 17, 2012

parody image of che

Spinning Robo posted:

Sterling is a feminist and he made fun of the jontron hashtag. Thats enough for some people.

guess everyone forgot about how sterling and anna anthropy are blood enemies

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Spinning Robo posted:

Sterling is a feminist and he made fun of the jontron hashtag. Thats enough for some people.

Hashtag I stand with Jontron.

Fire Barrel
Mar 28, 2010
Most interesting thing about all this is how it reflects larger trends in how online discussions are framed as increasingly simple, all-or-nothing issues. Any nuance or divergence from the "acceptable" opinion has you labelled as a number of terrible things and these bad opinions are kept in check through some pretty lovely tactics. I think it's worse that people claiming to be progressive are supporting these methods, as there is nothing progressive about trying to stifle dissenting voices(in most cases). This whole gamergate poo poo is probably going to not come to anything, save for the status quo reasserting itself and the "gamers" being made to look even trashier.

That's not to say "gamer culture" isn't a loving joke though. But I think most nerd culture is just as insufferable, and worthless, even if for different reasons. Also, more mainstream journalists/publications should get called out for writing articles funded by corporate interests.

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Hashtag I stand with Jontron.

Hashtag not too close though that dude reeks

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

big duck equals goose posted:

No.

Edit: well, actually, kinda. In one of his drowning out vids he said he sided more anti-SJW or something but it was just all fair weather poo poo.

In Drowning Out Thief 2 he and Gabriel discussed this whole ordeal for half an hour, but managed not to go into any details somehow.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
#gamingjournalismishorrendousbullshitthatdoesnotactuallyexistasajournalisticentityandiamgoingtomakeanewblogsitetorakeinmadcashfromthis

big duck equals goose
Nov 7, 2006

by XyloJW

jpmeyer posted:

guess everyone forgot about how sterling and anna anthropy are blood enemies

I wanna see two fat sexless blobs battle to the death...

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Jonad posted:

Hashtag not too close though that dude reeks

Why does SA hate Jontron so much

like you're all fatter than he is

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
You know guys I was thinking about it and I think I found the silver lining in this mess. If the SJWs are spending all their time complaining about "problematic tropes" in video games, music and tv shows then the world must be a really great place because if there was any truly serious evil in the world they would be spending their time fighting it!

:unsmith:

.....

:smith:

Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 3, 2014

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

THE PENETRATOR posted:

#gamingjournalismishorrendousbullshitthatdoesnotactuallyexistasajournalisticentityandiamgoingtomakeanewblogsitetorakeinmadcashfromthis

big duck equals goose
Nov 7, 2006

by XyloJW

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Why does SA hate Jontron so much

like you're all fatter than he is

I actually have the body of a sunken-chest 15 year old twink, thank you very much.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

sinking belle posted:

whats yahtzees take on fedoras. this is important info. does his lovely cartoon version of him still have a hat

yahtzee actually admits that hat was loving stupid looking, but the cartoon version still wears it because it actually looks OK on a flash cartoon, not on an actual human being

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

happyhippy posted:

WTF did Jim Sterling say to make him a SJW.
Tried finding it, cant see it.

He had a bunch of episodes dedicated to how dumb some people can be when branding people as fake 'gurl gamers', how Anita Sarkeesian shouldn't have been harassed (because that's what made her popular) and some other with vaguely lefty (by American standards) messages of diversity and equality.

Paladinus fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Sep 3, 2014

jpmeyer
Jan 17, 2012

parody image of che
sterling is the most misogynist man in the world because he called a woman a "feminazi oval office"

(in response to her sending tons of homophobic insults and photoshops of him in gay porn at him)

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

jpmeyer posted:

sterling is the most misogynist man in the world because he called a woman a "feminazi oval office"

(in response to her sending tons of homophobic insults and photoshops of him in gay porn at him)

lol

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
but seriously I wanna see those gay porno photoshops

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Why does SA hate Jontron so much

like you're all fatter than he is

We are fatter than most fat people.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

jpmeyer posted:

sterling is the most misogynist man in the world because he called a woman a "feminazi oval office"

(in response to her sending tons of homophobic insults and photoshops of him in gay porn at him)

He later made a video where he plays with on of those dragon dildos.

E: it's on Escapist, you can look it up. I know you want to.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
the only good thing i ever saw on a gaming youtube channel was a guy playing superman 64 and he was really good at it and told a lot of history and pointed out how broken the game was, but then he stopped updating and i didn't really care

ianvincible
Jan 23, 2004

Sephiroth_IRA posted:



Mega Man never got equipped with intolerance!

Ok yeah, I'm sure Mario, a straight up working class Italian plumber who essentially started the videogame version of chasing after helpless princesses is going to be the progressive voice on how to treat women.

Also :lol: at "the gaming future I fought for when actually ok it was just other people in my generation that did the fighting."

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
every youtube let's play superstar eventually gets outed as having some hilariously terrible secret

basically i'm just waiting for the pics of pewdiepie in full Nazi regalia to roll in

Radical
Apr 6, 2011

jim sterling is a fat idiot but i watched his most recent video and (as usual) seemed pretty middle of the road on the whole issue and didn't seem to be in the same camp as most of the other journalists, nor 4chan. he also seems like he might play videogames which is more than most journalists seem to these days so i cant totally hate him.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Why isn't the hashtag #Gameghazi?

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
The wizardchan stuff ties in perfectly to my domain name. I am king.

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Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

precision posted:

every youtube let's play superstar eventually gets outed as having some hilariously terrible secret

basically i'm just waiting for the pics of pewdiepie in full Nazi regalia to roll in

He's said friend of the family a lot, I don't think anyone cares. He's said it more than bowser

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