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Pretty much everything about their push to make Angela Thor's sister has been fairly terrible. They should have just kept it as is, "Crazy time poo poo happened, reality buckled, here's Angela".
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 08:42 |
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# ? May 12, 2024 20:42 |
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To be fair, it's totally fitting that a character from a Spawn comic would awkwardly shoe-horn half mocking half misunderstood christian stuff into whatever they're involved in. Spawn's the Japanese RPG of comics after all.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 08:46 |
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Yeah but don't tell me the All-Father of the Norse Gods Odinforcing Heaven and all the angels out of reality isn't badass.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 10:20 |
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It's not, it's kind of a stupid, what the gently caress do angels have to do with the Norse? Why is that a thing that would ever go together? Who thought this one up?
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 10:34 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:It's not, it's kind of a stupid, what the gently caress do angels have to do with the Norse? Why is that a thing that would ever go together? Who thought this one up? You're kind of a stupid
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 12:36 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:It's not, it's kind of a stupid, what the gently caress do angels have to do with the Norse? Why is that a thing that would ever go together? Who thought this one up? No reason you can't mix mythologies. There was a really good Incredible Hercules storyline back in the day about various pantheons fighting each other.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 12:41 |
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Lurdiak posted:Then undermine them completely by doing some horrible things at the last minute. i love you guys
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 12:44 |
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prefect posted:No reason you can't mix mythologies. There was a really good Incredible Hercules storyline back in the day about various pantheons fighting each other. I mean, this is all about a character from a book where there was a grand revelation that Jesus was actually a lady and also God's Mom. And also Satan's Mom. Compared to that finding out that there's an offbrand christian stick of the world tree called HEVEN seems right at home. The entire book feels like they're taking the piss out of Angela's real world origins in making her in-universe one.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 12:50 |
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prefect posted:No reason you can't mix mythologies. There was a really good Incredible Hercules storyline back in the day about various pantheons fighting each other. Yes, but they were various pantheons. Hercules is a Greek God, Thor is a Norse God, the end. Don't really need to do a lot there, just "All the gods are real". There has been a lot done with the Nine Realms over the years and their place in the order of things for the Asgardians in the Marvel universe, and obviously it's all based on the actual Norse religion. Throwing in some Tenth Realm of Angels [That have no relation to all the other Angels, fallen or otherwise, that have been in the Marvel universe over the years] that only exist to be chumped for this miniseries and will never be mentioned again? It's hackery. You could get the same thing with "Also Odin nailed an angel and you have a sister." if you absolutely need to give Thor a sister for some reason. And hell, you still get to fight angels, and you don't have to go full retard with this "Tenth Realm" bullshit.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 13:06 |
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Also, if that Tenth Real is still positioned on the Norse world tree at least give it a wacky name like Hevenheim or something.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 13:29 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Also, if that Tenth Real is still positioned on the Norse world tree at least give it a wacky name like Hevenheim or something. Okay, this is an objection I can agree with. (I can also understand the objection to the "tenth realm" thing. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been done before; I would have expected multiple "tenth realms" after all these years.)
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 13:33 |
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prefect posted:Okay, this is an objection I can agree with. There are. Fraction had a Tenth World which were a bunch of blue guys who killed other worlds. Balder banished them to limbo and spends all his time hunting them down.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 15:04 |
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The Question IRL posted:There are. Fraction had a Tenth World which were a bunch of blue guys who killed other worlds. Balder banished them to limbo and spends all his time hunting them down. I didn't think they were a 'realm' the way Asgard and the various helms were. I thought they were from somewhere outside and got in through the void where Asgard (realm) had been.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 16:36 |
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I wondered what they were gonna do with her when they made a big deal about getting here and GotG Angela seemed pretty cool when she was palling around with Gamora, I guess that didn't last then?
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 16:51 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:It's not, it's kind of a stupid, what the gently caress do angels have to do with the Norse? Why is that a thing that would ever go together? Who thought this one up? They could be a Marvelfied distortion of valkyries?
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 17:26 |
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redstormpopcorn posted:They could be a Marvelfied distortion of valkyries? Marvel actually has Valkyries though, including one literally called Valkyrie. She's a Defender.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 17:29 |
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Yeah, but these are the bad dumb valkyries that Odin put on a bus to Stupidville and the only in-flight entertainment was Dogma.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 17:32 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:It's not, it's kind of a stupid, what the gently caress do angels have to do with the Norse? About as much as Angela does with angels. If mash ups of different mythologies gets your goat your goat must be in a perpetual state of gotten from the Marvel Mythological side.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 17:56 |
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WickedHate posted:Marvel actually has Valkyries though, including one literally called Valkyrie. She's a Defender. Dani Moonstar is a valkyrie, isn't she? The best use of that was during the Mutant Massacre crossover, when she saw an enormous death figure lurking over the mansion. (I can't find a picture. Google image search has gotten weird recently.)
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 17:58 |
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SirDan3k posted:About as much as Angela does with angels. Seriously, anybody complaining about how this gels with Norse mythology has no business reading Thor comics. You might as well start complaining about how radioactive spiders are implausible, 'cause your suspension of disbelief is busted. That said, Heven is a dumb name.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 20:17 |
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Just be happy that it doesn't have an i or j sound, because they would totally have that replaced with a y.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 20:21 |
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Hevyn.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 20:22 |
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Wachter posted:Hevyn. Oh man.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 20:23 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:It's not, it's kind of a stupid, what the gently caress do angels have to do with the Norse? Why is that a thing that would ever go together? Who thought this one up? According to Brevoort, Quesada is the one who came up with everything about Angela's backstory. So blame him.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 21:09 |
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Man, not posting pics cause the entire issue counts as badass, but Injustice Year Two #22 just made me yell "HOLY gently caress". When the writers are on, man they are loving ON.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 22:09 |
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At least her name isn't Nevaeh.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 22:15 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Man, not posting pics cause the entire issue counts as badass, but Injustice Year Two #22 just made me yell "HOLY gently caress". This is a pretty impressive evil badass moment, because it shows how far down the rabbit hole the character's gone with a minimum of gore and bodycount but maximum twist factor.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 07:29 |
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d00gZ posted:At least her name isn't Nevaeh. "You still haven't given up on me, Alfred?" "Nevaeh!"
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 09:45 |
Mr. Maltose posted:I mean, this is all about a character from a book where there was a grand revelation that Jesus was actually a lady and also God's Mom. And also Satan's Mom. Compared to that finding out that there's an offbrand christian stick of the world tree called HEVEN seems right at home. The entire book feels like they're taking the piss out of Angela's real world origins in making her in-universe one. ...isn't that just an attempt at bashing Judeo-Christian mythology into a Gnostic framework, with Jesus as the Source, God as Sophia, and Satan as the Demiurge? That's not really that batshit, honestly.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 11:22 |
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Lumberjanes #1 takes place at a girl's camp. Sorry, I meant: Pretty much just your ordinary summer camp. That's the best battlecry I've seen in comics in a long while.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 12:30 |
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SALT CURES HAM posted:...isn't that just an attempt at bashing Judeo-Christian mythology into a Gnostic framework, with Jesus as the Source, God as Sophia, and Satan as the Demiurge? That's not really that batshit, honestly. No because both God and Devil were depicted literally as bickering children because of course they are it's Todd McFarlane.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 13:51 |
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e X posted:
Van Hevyn? Hel Hevenheim? Plain Heven just isn't enough Could work as a cheesy pop-band name though. Plain Heven.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 18:39 |
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Pimpmust posted:Van Hevyn? Bifrost in the Dark.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 20:49 |
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SynthOrange posted:Lumberjanes #1 takes place at a girl's camp. Sorry, I meant: But awesomeish!
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 23:17 |
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Jumping on the Lumberjanes bandwagon. A few pages later: All from Lumberjanes #3
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# ? Sep 6, 2014 21:50 |
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PYF Fastball Special: Previous page for context. That air swirl...
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# ? Sep 8, 2014 15:40 |
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zoux posted:PYF Fastball Special: I now like to think that Colossus threw him with a spiral for better accuracy. Logan's so dizzy when he lands on that sentinel or whatever.
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# ? Sep 8, 2014 16:03 |
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I'm sure it's just perspective, but Peter's lookin really naked there.
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# ? Sep 8, 2014 18:31 |
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zoux posted:PYF Fastball Special: Is that the Surfer doing the pitching? He needs to be careful he doesn't shear Logan's flesh off from throwing too hard. (Upon closer inspection, I see the flattop, so it's just Colossus. )
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# ? Sep 8, 2014 18:38 |
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# ? May 12, 2024 20:42 |
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Reposted from having accidentally posted in the Avengers thread:
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# ? Sep 8, 2014 20:34 |