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Edible Hat posted:I count at least two: Allen West and John Yoo. My mistake. Also, x-posting from the midterms thread: Apparently, making GBS threads on the poor and destitute through policy isn't enough for Republicans. No sir, those moochers have to be mocked and degraded. quote:A planned fundraiser for San Luis Obispo County supervisor candidate Lynn Compton involving “hobo stew” has become the center of the latest controversy in the nasty campaign for the fourth district seat. Or are people intentionally misrepresenting the meaning and message of this event? You bet, says Lynn Compton. quote:But, Compton’s campaign says that Ray’s supporters have drummed up a controversy by twisting the definition of hobo. Those people living in rags, who jump on trains for a free ride (no pun intended) with their few belongings in knapsacks are not homeless. Nope, they're the original hipsters.
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Phone posted:loving Lolololol Strange. There was talk of changing WV's sign (from "Wild and Wonderful") to Open for business. It was despised and changed back rather quickly.
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Phone posted:loving Lolololol You see why the Democrats here are so desperate to oust him that they're willing try and prop up Charlie Crist of all people in an attempt to beat him. Crist has no convictions, but that's better than a man with no morals who should be convicted.
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JT Jag posted:You trust the jackasses in Washington today to write a new constitution? They couldn't do worse than the founders maintaining slavery, right? Right?  richardfun posted:My mistake. You don't understand, hobos are part of "American lore", they're like legends or myths that depict the prototypical spirit of American freedom and liberty, not an actual thing that exists and is an example of the disgusting lack of empathy for a class of people barely able to survive and symptomatic of fundamentally unjust political and economic systems.  Like Johnny Appleseed!
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Mo_Steel posted:You don't understand, hobos are part of "American lore", they're like legends or myths that depict the prototypical spirit of American freedom and liberty, not an actual thing that exists and is an example of the disgusting lack of empathy for a class of people barely able to survive and symptomatic of fundamentally unjust political and economic systems. Counterpoint: Jack Dempsey and Stanley Ketchel were Hobo Jungle fighting legends that became Boxing legends (at Heavyweight and Middleweight, respectively). Check and mate, LIEberal... 
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richardfun posted:Apparently, making GBS threads on the poor and destitute through policy isn't enough for Republicans. No sir, those moochers have to be mocked and degraded. I'm having a hard time getting up in arms about this one. Mocked and degraded seems like a harsh way of describing a costume theme and main course. Especially when, yes, the objects of the theme are a part of American lore. Now, if someone at the event were quoted as saying how they don't think the rag clothes are that bad, or how homeless people have it good since they get to eat hobo stew every day, that would be a different matter.
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Sep 7, 2014 18:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4xu0CuCOw There's only one person who can stop a bad guy with a gun. We live under the Drake.
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Joementum posted:In which Quid Pro Cuomo is a dick. Took me a bit to figure out why this was posted. Cuomo is being challenged from the left by Zephyr Teachout (the blond woman with the teal business suit). Notice how Cuomo keeps his back to her and one of his goons tries to play interference. Dickish, but not unusual for politicians.
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Old James posted:Took me a bit to figure out why this was posted. Cuomo is being challenged from the left by Zephyr Teachout (the blond woman with the teal business suit). Notice how Cuomo keeps his back to her and one of his goons tries to play interference. Cuomo has been more dickish than usual towards Teachout, with I think two court challenges to her meeting the residency requirement to run. I don't, however, know if that derives from any genuine concern about a challenge from the left, or just Cuomo being a bit hypersensitive.
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Grundulum posted:I'm having a hard time getting up in arms about this one. Mocked and degraded seems like a harsh way of describing a costume theme and main course. Especially when, yes, the objects of the theme are a part of American lore. Now, if someone at the event were quoted as saying how they don't think the rag clothes are that bad, or how homeless people have it good since they get to eat hobo stew every day, that would be a different matter. Would it be okay if they had an event where everyone showed up in blackface and ate fried chicken and watermelon as long as nobody called anyone else sambo or talked about how great welfare checks are?
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Kanos posted:Would it be okay if they had an event where everyone showed up in blackface and ate fried chicken and watermelon as long as nobody called anyone else sambo or talked about how great welfare checks are?
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Sep 7, 2014 19:28
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Who cares about lore? I just accept quest and collect phat loot.
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Kanos posted:Would it be okay if they had an event where everyone showed up in blackface and ate fried chicken and watermelon as long as nobody called anyone else sambo or talked about how great welfare checks are? If there was systematic discrimination against vagrants/the homeless (I'm going to guess that there is a difference between the two) the way there was against black people, I'm not aware of it. So it's a bit of a blind spot for me.
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Phone posted:Who cares about lore? I just accept quest and collect phat loot. Interesting how the 'gamification' idea is mostly applied to lovely corporate 'scoring' programs where you either stay on the leaderboard or lose your job. It makes more sense to apply it to the economy as a whole with this RPG element.
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Guess who's planning a comeback tour after his failed 2012 run!
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My Imaginary GF posted:Guess who's planning a comeback tour after his failed 2012 run! Please tell me it's Mittens 
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I heard he was back spouting bullshit about "Benghazi coverup" on Fox very recently.
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richardfun posted:Please tell me it's Mittens He's out saying he'd "make a better president than Hillary" today
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My Imaginary GF posted:He's out saying he'd "make a better president than Hillary" today Omg, it's ... the white horse candidate! ED: He has returned! He has returned! Ring the bells! SnakePlissken fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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Today is the 50th anniversary of the only time this was paid to be played. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k It was one of the first Presidential campaign political ads under 15 minutes, part of a hard-hitting media strategy coordinated by Bill Moyers for the campaign.
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Grundulum posted:If there was systematic discrimination against vagrants/the homeless (I'm going to guess that there is a difference between the two) the way there was against black people, I'm not aware of it. So it's a bit of a blind spot for me. This is, in fact, exactly what that is! People talk about how "the homeless are invisible" a lot--just like how we're culturally conditioned to think worse of black people, we're culturally conditioned to distance ourselves from the homeless by seeing them as scenery, just handing them change and hoping they go away... Even when there's empathy, it's a really polite and quiet form that doesn't exactly appreciate how awful the condition really is. Like most forms of poverty, homelessness is near-impossible to actually work your way out of, but made worse. Consider: How many things could you just NOT do if you had no address to fill in when putting in a form? Coupled with the fact that a large majority of homeless are one or more of black, latino, mentally ill (and probably kicked out of wherever they lived because of it), or a GSM (and almost definitely kicked out of where they were living because of it--as a teen, even more likely) and it's just a wonderful shitstorm of an enforced underclass.
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Joementum posted:Today is the 50th anniversary of the only time this was paid to be played. This is honestly still one of the best attack ads ever for how extreme it goes. "We must either love each other, or we must die...........Vote for President Johnson on November 3rd, the stakes are too high for you to stay home" It's the original "Vote or die" campaign
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Sep 7, 2014 21:14
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Phone posted:Just drove into Florida and loving Rick Scott has appended his name to the welcome sign along with "OPEN FOR BUSINESS". This state is so awful. They got that on Virginia's signs now too. No Rick Scott though.
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comes along bort posted:They got that on Virginia's signs now too. No Rick Scott though. I usually go up through a backroad, so I haven't seen that. I'd much rather be up in VA this weekend than FL. 
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I saw it on 220 outside Martinsville, which is about as backroad as it gets. It's a really stupid phrase. Were they closed to business before?
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Grundulum posted:If there was systematic discrimination against vagrants/the homeless (I'm going to guess that there is a difference between the two) the way there was against black people, I'm not aware of it. So it's a bit of a blind spot for me. The GOP is coming from inside the thread. 
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Joementum posted:Today is the 50th anniversary of the only time this was paid to be played. Vote for Lyndon Johnson, or this dumb child will die.
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comes along bort posted:I saw it on 220 outside Martinsville, which is about as backroad as it gets. The one I'm talking about is a sideroad that goes from NC57 to the entrance of Virginia International Raceway.  The only thing I could think of with the open for business is his totally not a scam thing where welfare recipients had to piss in a cup for their check and oh look at that, my wife put in a non-contested bid for it. 
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Mister Olympus posted:This is, in fact, exactly what that is! People talk about how "the homeless are invisible" a lot--just like how we're culturally conditioned to think worse of black people, we're culturally conditioned to distance ourselves from the homeless by seeing them as scenery, just handing them change and hoping they go away... Even when there's empathy, it's a really polite and quiet form that doesn't exactly appreciate how awful the condition really is. Homeless individuals are also victimized more than other targets of hate crimes (emphasis mine): quote:Our Center in conjunction with NCH has found that there were twice as many homeless people killed in apparent bias related attacks than the combined total of every other hate crime category reported by the FBI in the last decade. This anti-homeless data actually excludes some of the other deadly violence that homeless people experience because attacks involving drugs, personal disputes, robbery, insurance fraud and homeless on homeless violence are not tabulated. While there have been many more non-homicide attacks, including rapes and aggravated assaults, the homicide data, which also represents a probable undercount, is considered the most reliable of all offense data. There are still many laws around the country that exist solely to target the homeless and drive them out of cities that find them undesirable as well, and this isn't a new phenomenon in America or globally. "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets, and steal loaves of bread."
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Mister Olympus posted:This is, in fact, exactly what that is! People talk about how "the homeless are invisible" a lot--just like how we're culturally conditioned to think worse of black people, we're culturally conditioned to distance ourselves from the homeless by seeing them as scenery, just handing them change and hoping they go away... Even when there's empathy, it's a really polite and quiet form that doesn't exactly appreciate how awful the condition really is. What does GSM stand for in this case? Google's letting me down here. vvv Thanks Chard fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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Chard posted:What does GSM stand for in this case? Google's letting me down here. Gender and/or Sexual Minority.
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Mo_Steel posted:Homeless individuals are also victimized more than other targets of hate crimes (emphasis mine): Yeah, and there are some relatively easy policy fixes that can decrease homelessness. For instance, rather than relying upon shelters, draft zoning laws that allow for single-occupancy boarding houses with shared amenities and without required parking spaces.
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Aliquid posted:*throws down literal, medieval gauntlet*  Look at that thing, it looks like it's going to jump off of his scalp and write an op-ed of its own. "I'M FREE BITCH" by A Carpet Sample, exclusive to BuzzFeed.com
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McDowell posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4xu0CuCOw Hobo With a Shotgun is an astute commentary on the functioning of the capitalist system and how it oppresses people. The Drake and his sons are what many political and business leaders would be sans laws.
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Old James posted:Took me a bit to figure out why this was posted. Cuomo is being challenged from the left by Zephyr Teachout (the blond woman with the teal business suit). Notice how Cuomo keeps his back to her and one of his goons tries to play interference. SnakePlissken posted:Omg, it's ... the
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Having been homeless for two years myself (though with a vehicle and employed, which put me in the very upper class of homeless), and having known someone who apparently killed homeless people for fun, or at least that's what he brags about whenever he's high and he seems like the type (He's been reported, of course, but no victim means no crime! What do I want the police to do anyway, considering no one knows the names of the people he supposedly killed and he already left the state?) Politicians hate the homeless, and many of them basically adopt the policy of "if we neglect them enough maybe they'll all die or go away, I don't particularly care which." Being homeless is essentially outright illegal in many places, and impossible to get out of for many people who find themselves in the situation. Most non-politicians just want to avoid thinking about them at all costs. The treatment of the homeless in the US is pretty lovely - which means this is a bunch of Republican's celebrating and dressing up as the people they want to stick behind bars for living out the dream of FREEDOM, but not being wealthy as a result.
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It is my understanding that the best way to deal with the issue of homelessness is to just give the homeless no-stings-attached real housing. For those who are temporarily homeless (which by far are the majority) it provides shelter to get back on their feet. For those who want treatment for mental illness or substance abuse it provides a stable address for those working with their treatment to reach them to guide them through that process. And all that aside getting people out of the elements so reduces the need for emergency medical treatment that it pays for itself. But people would have such a shitfit over the idea of "paying rent for some drunk druggie" (which would go up 100 fold at the prospect of having them live nearby) that it will never happen on a large scale.
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For my own part, I would have been happy with not being run out of the parking space I had actually paid for. Spent almost 200 hundred for a pass to a nice outdoor spot in a decent sized lot, and it worked great until they found out I was living out of my vehicle and ran me off. :/ Claimed it "wasn't safe for me to be sleeping there, in the well-lit parking lot regularly patrolled by security", so I ended up having to find alleys and dark corners where no one was likely to look, and even then I had situations where the police kicked my out three times in a single night. (Basically, sleeping in your vehicle anywhere is a crime) All I wanted was to for people to stop harassing me, but the police make it very clear, very quickly, that they would most prefer you cease to exist.
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