The Cleaner posted:You need gear, and LOTS of it. I put this in the second post of the OP. I also appreciate that you basically summed up gearslutz into one post. So, on another semi-related note, I'm down a lot of my synths and have only a couple of cheap ones here in Honolulu, the two vintage fuckers in the mainland are basically just sitting there for now but my 303 has kind of got a planned expiration date of when I'm planning to buy plane tickets to south Asia again. I'm finding I'm enjoying making music more without the A4 or something like it; I think I was feeling too obligated to make it play nice with my Ableton setup and that was just driving me nuts. I'm also making an effort to learn more music theory and stop obsessing over tiny details of tracks that are basically meaningless because I don't have the patience to actually compose anything so who gives a poo poo if I can make a few bars sound perfect? So yeah, I'm actually doing things now so that's a super positive change for me. Yay synth thread!
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You need to write a few songs in Mario Paint or something.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I'm also making an effort to learn more music theory and stop obsessing over tiny details of tracks that are basically meaningless because I don't have the patience to actually compose anything so who gives a poo poo if I can make a few bars sound perfect? So yeah, I'm actually doing things now so that's a super positive change for me. Dunno what you're looking into, but as someone who took some (unhelpful) theory classes, Michael Hewitt's Music Theory For Computer Musicians is loving great. Dude just gets right to the point on each topic and actually explains why things are usually done the way they are. It actually got me excited about learning this poo poo.
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Sep 8, 2014 00:19
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Lichtenstein posted:It's got a somewhat unintutive interface (my envelope release ain't working at all. You'd think one has to do some tweaking of the DCA4, clearly depicted as the final output of the sound, but nope, it's the random rear end unlabeled ENV4 with no particular destination) Also, the envelope volume release is not working if your filter is closed all the way and has a release of zero (the sound will still be there, the lowpass filter will just muffle it into oblivion). Make the filter envelope the same, or take the filter out of the loop entirely by moving the cutoff all the way up and setting filter envelope modulation to zero. quote:Working straight off blank INIT, I've noticed all three noise waveforms have a very computer-ish sound, more like the weird noises a 56k dial-up modem does, rather how a proper white noise sounds. Is it how it's supposed to be, or is there a knob to fix it? Fun (no, boring actually) fact: Synth1 uses (or at least used to) a pseudo-random generator for a noise signal. PSRNs re-set when they're re-triggered, and guess what osc sync does 
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Lichtenstein posted:all three noise waveforms have a very computer-ish sound, more like the weird noises a 56k dial-up modem does, rather how a proper white noise sounds. Is it how it's supposed to be, or is there a knob to fix it? Glorious, isn't it?
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BKPR posted:Dunno what you're looking into, but as someone who took some (unhelpful) theory classes, Michael Hewitt's Music Theory For Computer Musicians is loving great. Dude just gets right to the point on each topic and actually explains why things are usually done the way they are. It actually got me excited about learning this poo poo. Most useful "buy this" suggestion itt. I'm finding this way more useful than a piano book I bought. I guess it's because it explains stuff in the context of the whole keyboard rather than just learn this piece for this exercise. That and assuming you are either working from a DAW or a MIDI controller or both. Laserjet 4P posted:Fun (no, boring actually) fact: Synth1 uses (or at least used to) a pseudo-random generator for a noise signal. PSRNs re-set when they're re-triggered, and guess what osc sync does Man, my cs teacher in 10th grade taught us to always pull from the clock for seeds. That doesn't fix everything but it helps. It's surprising how often people don't re-seed properly when it might be noticed. AxeBreaker fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I put this in the second post of the OP. I also appreciate that you basically summed up gearslutz into one post. Also: what I'm planning is to buy a Ming Mecca. We'll see if I actually do it. Seems possibly one of the dumbest/coolest ways to jump into the deep end of Eurorack. And yeah, I do plan to still build it out piece by piece, not all at once.
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You should buy the Euro case anyways, I also take frequent flier miles.
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Laserjet 4P posted:Likely how it's supposed to be; the noise in there is likely a sample instead of a proper analog noise source. Yeah, I think that's the case - the manual entry for the NOISE3 waveform mentioned a "clangorous, metallic quality". Still, there's an inharmonic loop of blowing steam which worked well enough as a ghetto noise. I'm currently trying to turn my mostly theoretical knowledge of what particular knobs do into something that doesn't sound like poo poo. I'm going through presets and it's kinda scary in how simple some solutions are that would never cross my mind (detune a piano by an octave and three semitones and you're halfway to a violin sound!). Other than reverse-enginnering the presets, I wonder if there is some sort of resource like this, that is not a patch library per se, but something that gives you an endgoal and some super rough tips on where to begin?
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There is (was) the Transoniq hacker. Earlier issues have a ton of esq-1/sq-80 patches that people sent it. -Might- help to look at some of them.
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Lichtenstein posted:Yeah, I think that's the case - the manual entry for the NOISE3 waveform mentioned a "clangorous, metallic quality". Still, there's an inharmonic loop of blowing steam which worked well enough as a ghetto noise. http://www.syntorial.com/ is great for learning how to match sounds though it's based on typical subtractive synth architecture and I have no idea how well it'd work for something like the SQ80.
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Mr. Sharps posted:http://www.syntorial.com/ is great for learning how to match sounds though it's based on typical subtractive synth architecture and I have no idea how well it'd work for something like the SQ80. Is there a name for synthesizers that aren't ROMplers but use sampled waveforms for synthesis?
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Number Two Stunna posted:Is there a name for synthesizers that aren't ROMplers but use sampled waveforms for synthesis? Hybrid or wavetable, depending on how they're configured.
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"Hybrid" only if they have analog filters (DW8000, ESQ-1). "Wavetable" only if they allow PPG-style wavetable scrolling (the "wavetable" in 90s soundcards was a marketing term). Otherwise they're just romplers. That's not necessarily a derogatory term, it's just that arranger keyboards use that technology as well, but they usually restrict the kind of editing you can do while a Motif or Fantom won't.
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W424 posted:Maybe this qualifies for the groovebox stuff. Zoom 234 + Modded Monotron, audio used as CV. Sounds like a TRS80 gig!
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AxeBreaker posted:It's my Birthday this month, and I've gotten some cash to combust. I can add my own and or expect the odd 100$ from other sources, but I got 600$ plus maybe 200$ total. I have an Ultranova and I like it a lot. IMHO it's great if you only want one synthesizer, and you also need a decent controller, and an audio interface for your pooter, oh and you also want to plug a microphone in somewhere. You don't hear people talk about the Ultranova much on here, because nobody has just 1 synth. NOBODY
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I just need one more... synth buying frenzy SQ8L/SQ80/ESQ- I'm sure I posted these in the last thread but Hacker archive. There's a good mailing list populated with helpful oldbeards. Including Mr. Slinkard who has a video with nice tips for SQ80, including PWM.
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I'm going to be purchasing forums user dj bobby bieber's Rocktron Banshee talkbox. I'm very excited to test it out with some 'neurofunk' timbres, to see if I can't get some unique modulation to inspire some heavy D&B basslines... But I also have to pay tribute to the classics; what are some of the OG sounds to put through a talkbox for that Roger Troutman sound?
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Brassy saw from an FM synth but most anything with a saw would get you in the realm. His technique had a lot to do with it.
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Startyde posted:Brassy saw from an FM synth. Basically the first voice I ever made on FM. "Boy, two operators are pretty bland. Hey what does feedback do?" Still my go-to worm lead with mod wheel patched to modulator depth. Still don't use more than 2 operators.
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Dr. Honked posted:I have an Ultranova and I like it a lot. IMHO it's great if you only want one synthesizer, and you also need a decent controller, and an audio interface for your pooter, oh and you also want to plug a microphone in somewhere. does the ultranova have a lot of functionality you can't access on the hardware alone? It seems like a lot of synths i look at are geared toward DAW users/production more than live performance (aka just dicking around) with custom VSTs for interacting with the hardware, etc. Really i want something with a bunch of knobs and such so I can play around and learn what the different settings and parameters do in a hands-on sort of way instead of having MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY right from the start.
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If you're looking for knobby polysynths then there's some decent digital 90s options, apparently some sadists like the Korg MS2000. I'd still probably got for the Ultranova, they're kind of unsung heroes right now.
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Mr. Glass posted:does the ultranova have a lot of functionality you can't access on the hardware alone? It seems like a lot of synths i look at are geared toward DAW users/production more than live performance (aka just dicking around) with custom VSTs for interacting with the hardware, etc. Really i want something with a bunch of knobs and such so I can play around and learn what the different settings and parameters do in a hands-on sort of way instead of having MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY right from the start. The Ultranova is perfectly good to use standalone, without a DAW. This is what I was looking for too. If I wanted to use a DAW and VST's I'd just get a keyboard controller and one of those Behringer knob boxes instead. The Ultranova is 100% functional and easy to use from the front panel. I take mine to jam sessions, along with a small guitar amp, and it's all great.
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Dr. Honked posted:The Ultranova is perfectly good to use standalone, without a DAW. This is what I was looking for too. If I wanted to use a DAW and VST's I'd just get a keyboard controller and one of those Behringer knob boxes instead. awesome, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for then. what is the thread's opinion on stuff like the Kaossilator Pro and similar products (for the same purpose: just for playing with instead of being the be-all and end-all of music production)? Are there similar products worth looking at? Should I wait for the new Electribes? e: unrelated to the above, this looks pretty cool Mr. Glass fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWZsA8w8gRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M
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Ugh, that's a lot of decent synths for a bunch of bullshit. 
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im the guy on the vermona VoodooXT posted:Ugh, that's a lot of decent synths for a bunch of bullshit. Hello and welcome to synths  e- Speaking of a bunch of bullshit, new rhythm wolf vid, still sounds awful. Even through a bucket of RD's modular. Startyde fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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VoodooXT posted:Ugh, that's a lot of decent synths for a bunch of bullshit. That was my same thought when I saw the table of stuff. Although it looks like it's people just messing around and nobody trying to jam together so of course it's just going to be beep blorps.
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Someone condensed this thread into a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyMZ2vV0zqg
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net work error posted:Someone condensed this thread into a video. It's got to be said that that is taken from a 68 minute video, and he doesn't say synthesizer nearly as much as you'd expect given how many he has.
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Startyde posted:Hello and welcome to synths Yeah, I know. It's just a little joke I say every so often, except it's usually within the context of modular synth bleep bloops as "That's a lot of patch cables for a bunch of bullshit. "
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:apparently some sadists like the Korg MS2000. Hi there.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:apparently some sadists like the Korg MS2000. If only they could take the powerful engine and sounds of the MS2000, and condense it into a smaller portable design. Something more micro...
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If only they could KEEP THE DAMNED STEP SEQUENCER If the KingKorg had a step sequencer or at least an 'as played' option for the arpeggiator I would have been much happier, and would probably not own a hardware sequencer from 1996 ... probably.
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I probably wouldn't have sold mine if I'd had easier acces to the "soundz", something like this perhaps?
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I want a vocoder / vocal effects processor. Should I get another synth or just a standalone thingy? I checked out the new Roland gadget but no MIDI / carrier signal input kills it for me
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A MIRACLE posted:I want a vocoder / vocal effects processor. Should I get another synth or just a standalone thingy? I checked out the new Roland gadget but no MIDI / carrier signal input kills it for me Zoom 1201 if you want ultra cheap. Edit. Holy lol http://youtu.be/IdaWuzRRRF8 http://youtu.be/ZMBgatptyI8 W424 fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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