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So what do we think about the new Jaaaaaaag? http://m.autoblog.com/2014/09/08/2016-jaguar-xe-deep-dive-photos-official/?post=1&icid=autoblog_river_article
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 01:34 |
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blk posted:So what do we think about the new Jaaaaaaag? http://m.autoblog.com/2014/09/08/2016-jaguar-xe-deep-dive-photos-official/?post=1&icid=autoblog_river_article Looks like a Mazda 6
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 01:43 |
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The Mazda6 is far better looking than this snoozefest. If anything it looks like a mashup of a Ford Fusion and a Volvo S60. Not bad but pretty boring. Also the vent on the fender thing has really jumped the shark now. I think it's substantially lighter than most of the competition which is mildly interesting, but then it probably won't be available with a manual so who cares.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 01:54 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Also the vent on the fender thing has really jumped the shark now.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 03:53 |
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Throatwarbler posted:The Mazda6 is far better looking than this snoozefest. If anything it looks like a mashup of a Ford Fusion and a Volvo S60. Not bad but pretty boring. Also the vent on the fender thing has really jumped the shark now. Mantran buyers are deffo the Jag demographic, they're really dropping the ball on this one.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 05:44 |
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n8r posted:Mantran buyers are deffo the Jag demographic, they're really dropping the ball on this one. Excellent point but Jaguar has been testing a manual F-Type on the Nurburgring lately.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 06:01 |
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I really like the new Jag. It has nice, clean, and understated lines. It would be nice if they made an R version with a V8 but we'll see.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 13:11 |
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I like the front, the profile view looks OK, the back is eh. The side vent is loving stupid as heck, at least they should have done a vertical one if they really felt the need.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 14:43 |
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New Mercedes AMG GT Revealedautocar posted:This is the new Mercedes-AMG GT – the second series-production model from Mercedes-Benz’s performance car division in Affalterbach, Germany, following on from the recently discontinued SLS AMG. Personally not feeling it. There's just something about the design I don't like.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 19:31 |
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I thought the side profile was viperish.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 20:00 |
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I don't like the back very much and I miss the gull-wing doors but I'd drive it any day.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 20:04 |
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Back end has already been done, and better, on the F-type.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 20:22 |
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Aside from the headlights, it looks very dated to me. Like a concept from 1999. Given the price, 456/503 hp from a twin turbo V8 is pretty unimpressive. I figured out what bothers me about it. If Lexus made an SC430 F sport it would be this car. It'll sell like crazy. AfricanBootyShine fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 9, 2014 |
# ? Sep 9, 2014 20:43 |
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There's nothing about it that makes me want it more than an SLS. The new design is kind of generic and the stupid tablet thing ruins the interior.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 20:43 |
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hey let's stick the turbos in the cylinder bank because that can only end well
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 20:48 |
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If thats what it actually looks like and is not just a pre production mockup ala the BRZ/FRS changes, I actually like it a lot more than the SLS.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:00 |
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VikingSkull posted:hey let's stick the turbos in the cylinder bank because that can only end well Is that working out well for BMW? I haven't heard of any problems.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:01 |
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The rear curve from the roofline reminds me of a 928
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:04 |
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fknlo posted:New Mercedes AMG GT Revealed Okay, so that's definitely what I saw camo'ed up on I10 a couple months back. Honestly, looks better to me than a CLS.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:06 |
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I don't like modern Mercedes front-end design language, but I really like how understated that rear is. It works for me. I think it'd look really good in black.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:08 |
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I'd like to reshape those lower intakes but otherwise I think it's nice looking. Not sure if yellow is the right color though.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:56 |
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CornHolio posted:Is that working out well for BMW? I haven't heard of any problems. I didn't know BMW was also doing that, the article seems to think this new powerplant is unique in that respect. Regardless, it's one of those things that even if it works great, it's still dumb because it's gotta be totally destructive when it finally lets go. It's needlessly complicating things, like placing a starter underneath an intake manifold.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 22:03 |
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VikingSkull posted:I didn't know BMW was also doing that, the article seems to think this new powerplant is unique in that respect. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but on the twin-turbo V8s they have the turbo intakes as part of the exhaust manifold in the V of the engine. I remember a lot of people being concerned about heat on those turbos, but I haven't heard that they have any actual problems. At least in BMW's case, I think it allowed them to perfectly time the turbo impeller blade face / exhaust pulse timing to nearly eliminate turbo lag. So it had a benefit. Just sucks to be the guy replacing the combination turbo/exhaust manifold down the line.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 22:14 |
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That's not so dumb, but I took it as the turbos are in the block/cylinder bank itself. If that's the case, holy poo poo.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 22:20 |
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Or removing a rear bumper to change an air filter Actually an upsetting number of new cars require pulling the front bumper cover to change a headlight.
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 22:43 |
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Xguard86 posted:I'd like to reshape those lower intakes but otherwise I think it's nice looking. Not sure if yellow is the right color though. Yellow with a red interior is definitely a curious choice
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 22:51 |
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VikingSkull posted:That's not so dumb, but I took it as the turbos are in the block/cylinder bank itself. If that's the case, holy poo poo. I can't see how they could even do that. They no doubt mean reverse flow heads and turbos in the valley, like the ford 6.7 edit: picture of the actual engine. Powershift fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Sep 9, 2014 |
# ? Sep 9, 2014 23:13 |
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BraveUlysses posted:The rear curve from the roofline reminds me of a 928 From the back of the door back screams PORSCHE to me. Maybe that's the intention since it's supposed to be a 911 competitor?
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# ? Sep 9, 2014 23:14 |
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No gullwing doors? That's it; I'm not buying this thing.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 01:10 |
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That 911 looks a hundred times better than the Benz. gently caress...I need to be rich.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 01:30 |
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As much as I'd like to be excited by the Hellcats, I can't be. It's cool that so much horsepower is available for so little money, but I don't have any application for it. I'm not into drag racing, I'd never use it daily driving, they don't corner very well and the styling on them really, really doesn't appeal to me. They're novelties, like automotive whoopie cushions, but I imagine the joke would get old fast, at least for me. Anyone else?
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 08:04 |
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blk posted:As much as I'd like to be excited by the Hellcats, I can't be. It's cool that so much horsepower is available for so little money, but I don't have any application for it. I'm not into drag racing, I'd never use it daily driving, they don't corner very well and the styling on them really, really doesn't appeal to me. They're novelties, like automotive whoopie cushions, but I imagine the joke would get old fast, at least for me. Anyone else? It's not for everyone, but the Challenger is probably the best affordable grand tourer on the market but also happens to have fantastically retro styling. It's no Lotus in the corners, but it isn't as bad as everyone assumes it is, especially for a 4000 pound GT car.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 10:10 |
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If you're buying a Hellcat to carve corners with, you're missing the point. It's a drag racer/boulevard cruiser. That's it. It's not for everyone, but for the people it's targeting it's the best in the segment. Unfortunately that segment is filled with brand fanboys so guys with GT500's and ZL-1's are gonna get murdered at stoplights because brand fanboys are dumb.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 11:39 |
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I don't like this thing that's not even trying to be what I want. See also: people being douchebags about the Z/28 for being an overpriced LOL CAMERO when it's a track day toy that puts in psychotic lap times, which was the whole point of it.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 12:27 |
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How is the Z/28 so fast around the track when you can't see out of it? Truly Z/28 hot-lappers are the best drivers.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 13:28 |
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Sole Survivor posted:It's not for everyone, but the Challenger is probably the best affordable grand tourer on the market but also happens to have fantastically retro styling. It's no Lotus in the corners, but it isn't as bad as everyone assumes it is, especially for a 4000 pound GT car. I think it looks good. I like that an enormous two-door mean-faced car exists with that much power. It means there is something right with the world.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 13:41 |
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CornHolio posted:I think it looks good. I like that an enormous two-door mean-faced car exists with that much power. It means there is something right with the world. And as has previously been stated, the more of these things on the road the more motor swaps can be done as they start popping up on telephone poles around the country side.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 14:00 |
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SPORK08 posted:And as has previously been stated, the more of these things on the road the more motor swaps can be done as they start popping up on telephone poles around the country side. Is the Hellcat motor available in crate form?
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 14:17 |
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VikingSkull posted:If you're buying a Hellcat to carve corners with, you're missing the point. It's a drag racer/boulevard cruiser. That's it. It's not for everyone, but for the people it's targeting it's the best in the segment. Eh, I think if you try to stoplight race any of those, you'll just fill the intersection with smoke.
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 14:52 |
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PeterWeller posted:Eh, I think if you try to stoplight race any of those, you'll just fill the intersection with smoke. Well, it is a ChryCo transmission....
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# ? Sep 10, 2014 14:55 |