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tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler
Apparently I was bad with money, back when Windows 3.1 was still a thing and I decided to buy this software. Just found it while cleaning out my home office.

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EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Evil Robot posted:

Trying to attract customers who are looking for an FDIC-insured place to store medium-large amounts of emergency funds?

My bank is 0.65% checking, 0.7% savings. Adds up to some hundreds of $s per year for me.

http://www.alliantcreditunion.org/services/rates/

...that's not a bank and that's not FDIC insured

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

EugeneJ posted:

...that's not a bank and that's not FDIC insured

Jeez, how pedantic do you want get?

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy

EugeneJ posted:

...that's not a bank and that's not FDIC insured

Uh, is there really a difference FDIC vs NCUA, which credit unions fall under?

zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

The Desktop Pythonizer! What a blast from the past.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo
But if you're looking for a non FDIC insured account that will give you 5%+ interest, I'd be happy to do that for you. Just mail your cash to this address (which is totally not an abandon warehouse in town) and I'll mail back monthly statements, watch your balance grow grOW GROW! I prefer hundreds, but if that's not convenient, I'll take 20s.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
My co-worker has been on a mega rant for the last week because he's getting charged 8 dollars a month extra by Sprint because he refuses to put his account on autopay and use ebill instead of paper statements and about how unfair it is.

I'm like... why not just put your account on autopay and sign up for the ebill? But it just made him mad.

I don't get it. Sure it's lovely but it's not illegal or anything, Sprint is charging people extra that they think are risks of not paying their account. Why pay that money if you don't have to and then refuse to do the thing to make it go away and just get super angry about it instead? Or take your business elsewhere (except you cant because you got a two year contract way to go)

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

My co-worker has been on a mega rant for the last week because he's getting charged 8 dollars a month extra by Sprint because he refuses to put his account on autopay and use ebill instead of paper statements and about how unfair it is.

I'm like... why not just put your account on autopay and sign up for the ebill? But it just made him mad.

I don't get it. Sure it's lovely but it's not illegal or anything, Sprint is charging people extra that they think are risks of not paying their account. Why pay that money if you don't have to and then refuse to do the thing to make it go away and just get super angry about it instead? Or take your business elsewhere (except you cant because you got a two year contract way to go)

It seems some people have this strange need to micro-manage their monthly bills, because they think if they don't, they'll get taken advantage of.

I say many of these people would be much better off spending their energy tackling real money issues, like tracking their monthly spending and understanding why they're losing $100s on daily lattes. As opposed to every 5 years catching a $5~ overcharge on their phone bill.

Besides, in my case, I track my monthly expenses such that I'll notice a discrepancy in a bill I paid, so I can then research it. Sure, I've already paid for it, but that doesn't give me any less leverage with the utility company if they hosed up. I'll see the credit on my next bill.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Something you guys might want to check out is the break even point of just using a long term CD for the higher interest rate, and just planning on paying the early withdrawal penalty. My break even was like 3 months.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Rick Rickshaw posted:

It seems some people have this strange need to micro-manage their monthly bills, because they think if they don't, they'll get taken advantage of.

I say many of these people would be much better off spending their energy tackling real money issues, like tracking their monthly spending and understanding why they're losing $100s on daily lattes. As opposed to every 5 years catching a $5~ overcharge on their phone bill.

Besides, in my case, I track my monthly expenses such that I'll notice a discrepancy in a bill I paid, so I can then research it. Sure, I've already paid for it, but that doesn't give me any less leverage with the utility company if they hosed up. I'll see the credit on my next bill.
Yeah tell me about it. He's getting super stressed out about this 8 dollars a month when A) It's easily fixed by just bowing to our corporate overlords in this specific case and B) He easily spends 60 bucks a week on eating out every day for lunch.

You gotta prioritize sometimes, and pick your goddamn battles. The stress ain't worth it.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

Yeah tell me about it. He's getting super stressed out about this 8 dollars a month when A) It's easily fixed by just bowing to our corporate overlords in this specific case and B) He easily spends 60 bucks a week on eating out every day for lunch.

You gotta prioritize sometimes, and pick your goddamn battles. The stress ain't worth it.

I recently did something similar with my credit cards in graduated steps. Normally, I pay my CCs twice per month to ensure I never get charged ANY interest and to keep my utilization % low. Just in case I forgot to do it somehow (it almost happened once), I wanted a fallback solution. This is especially because I rarely look at my statement when it is delivered via mail or email since I keep up with day-to-day purchases via Mint to make sure nothing unexpected slips through.

1. About a month ago, I changed all my credit cards to autopay the statement minimum to make sure at the very least I'd never get a late payment.
2. Then I thought, I really only use one of them for 95% of purchases, while the others are only for backup/emergency use or to maximize rewards in a particular category. So I set the backup cards to autopay the full statement. I always keep enough in checking more to cover rent, utilities, and typical credit card charges for a month plus an extra buffer of $1000. If I make a particularly large purchase that month, I usually transfer some money out of savings to checking make up for that one purchase.
3. And then last week I came to my senses and said that since I'm using Mint several times per week to monitor for unauthorized charges (on top of whatever the CC provider does for me), I should just set them all to autopay the full statement due balance

I'll still try and pay off my cards at least twice per month to keep my utilization low and psychologically feel like I'm more on top of everything. But now if I forget, I'm still guaranteed no interest charges. Just makes my life a little bit less stressful.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

SpelledBackwards posted:

I recently did something similar with my credit cards in graduated steps. Normally, I pay my CCs twice per month to ensure I never get charged ANY interest and to keep my utilization % low. Just in case I forgot to do it somehow (it almost happened once), I wanted a fallback solution. This is especially because I rarely look at my statement when it is delivered via mail or email since I keep up with day-to-day purchases via Mint to make sure nothing unexpected slips through.

1. About a month ago, I changed all my credit cards to autopay the statement minimum to make sure at the very least I'd never get a late payment.
2. Then I thought, I really only use one of them for 95% of purchases, while the others are only for backup/emergency use or to maximize rewards in a particular category. So I set the backup cards to autopay the full statement. I always keep enough in checking more to cover rent, utilities, and typical credit card charges for a month plus an extra buffer of $1000. If I make a particularly large purchase that month, I usually transfer some money out of savings to checking make up for that one purchase.
3. And then last week I came to my senses and said that since I'm using Mint several times per week to monitor for unauthorized charges (on top of whatever the CC provider does for me), I should just set them all to autopay the full statement due balance

I'll still try and pay off my cards at least twice per month to keep my utilization low and psychologically feel like I'm more on top of everything. But now if I forget, I'm still guaranteed no interest charges. Just makes my life a little bit less stressful.

Yeah autopay is great, and, for me at least, it's worth keeping extra money in my checking account to literally never think about bill due dates. The opportunity cost of keeping a few extra thousand uninvested each month is pretty drat low.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

Definitely. It used to be the only thing I had set to autopay was my mortgage (don't want to get kicked out on a nonpayment technicality!), car insurance, domain hosting, and Netflix.

For some reason in my head, and I had still wanted to control my utility bills and credit card statements. I might move the utility bills to also autopay, while still actually looking at them each month since I like to see my usage patterns and history (and each time my promotional rate expires on cable internet and fees jump up 50% because gently caress YOU)

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

Guinness posted:

Why anyone keeps any significant amount of money with a large retail bank is beyond me.

I keep a couple thousand dollars in my credit union account for paychecks and monthly expenses etc. which earns a bit over 1% on small-ish balances, and then my liquid cash is with CapitalOne 360 that earns 0.75% presently.

Sure, it's not a lot of interest but it earns a combined ~$15/month. Basically free money for 2 minutes of effort a month.

My Scottrade online investment account offers a debit card as well as paper checks. Which means that for all intents and purposes, savings bonds aren't much less liquid than cash.

I mean, I can't think of any expense over a couple thousand dollars where you wouldn't have at least several days to produce the money.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Cockmaster posted:

My Scottrade online investment account offers a debit card as well as paper checks. Which means that for all intents and purposes, savings bonds aren't much less liquid than cash.

I mean, I can't think of any expense over a couple thousand dollars where you wouldn't have at least several days to produce the money.

Margin call, gentlemen! You know the rules.

District Selectman
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Mantle posted:

Margin call, gentlemen! You know the rules.

A Duke has been on this exchange since it was founded!

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

My co-worker has been on a mega rant for the last week because he's getting charged 8 dollars a month extra by Sprint because he refuses to put his account on autopay and use ebill instead of paper statements and about how unfair it is.

The Canadian broadcast regulator gave the telecoms here a chance to knock that poo poo off, they said they wouldn't, so now the government is going to legislate the practice out of existence.

Pay-to-pay is amongst the biggest piles of horseshit because not everyone wants to or is able to set everything to autopay and go without a paper statement. I don't really need a paper statement, but until the place issues me a credit for not sending me a paper statement, they can keep forking over the postage.

SlapActionJackson
Jul 27, 2006

Antifreeze Head posted:

Pay-to-pay is amongst the biggest piles of horseshit because not everyone wants to or is able to set everything to autopay and go without a paper statement. I don't really need a paper statement, but until the place issues me a credit for not sending me a paper statement, they can keep forking over the postage.

You do realize it's purely a matter of semantics whether it's an $8 charge for paper statements vs an $8 discount for using autopay?

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
It isn't exactly, because they are required to provide the service at the rate they used to get the subscriber in the first place. They can't just institute a flat increase of eight dollars a month for every current subscriber then reduce the bill by the same amount if the customer opts into electronic billing.

There's nothing to stop them from increasing the price for new customers and then offering the discount, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

BULLETKISS
Jul 3, 2003

My cable company (Cable One) is bad with money. There isn't an option to NOT receive a paper statement, even if you are enrolled in electronic payments. Every month we get mailed a statement that says, "No payment due". I even called them about how dumb that was and was told that's how they do business. Weird huh?

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

BULLETKISS posted:

My cable company (Cable One) is bad with money. There isn't an option to NOT receive a paper statement, even if you are enrolled in electronic payments. Every month we get mailed a statement that says, "No payment due". I even called them about how dumb that was and was told that's how they do business. Weird huh?

My bank's credit card also has no option for paperless statements, even though my debit card through the same bank does.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.
I think the only regular bill I get through the mail is my property taxes, which is auto-paid by the bank that holds my mortgage.

The only bill that I don't have set to auto-pay is my credit card, because I can't set it to auto-pay the entire balance of each statement. I can only set recurring payments of $X amount each month. I just tweeted my bank to complain about this.

edit: They do offer this, but just not via Online Banking. Just set it up now. Credit card statement balance will be paid in full one day before the statement due date. Perfect. Another BFC success story! :homebrew:

edit2: ↓↓↓↓ CIBC too! :canada:

Rick Rickshaw fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Sep 11, 2014

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

EugeneJ posted:

My bank's credit card also has no option for paperless statements, even though my debit card through the same bank does.

I asked my bank about this a few years ago and apparently credit card companies are required by law to notify users of all charges. There was a delay in sorting out the legalese around insuring that an online statement was sufficient, hence only mailing paper statements to cover their asses. It's since been sorted out here in Canada, at least by TD.

paperchaseguy
Feb 21, 2002

THEY'RE GONNA SAY NO

District Selectman posted:

A Duke has been on this exchange since it was founded!

It took 30 years for someone to tell me they were going to see "La Boheme". I was ready. :thurman:

also this is a cool game

Dead Cow
Nov 4, 2009

Passion makes the world go round.
Love just makes it a safer place.
To be fair to the coworker, I wouldn't want sprint to have the right to auto transact on any of my accounts.

SIHappiness
Apr 26, 2008

Dead Cow posted:

To be fair to the coworker, I wouldn't want sprint to have the right to auto transact on any of my accounts.

It took me hours to get Sprint to stop auto-debitting $0.51 a month from my account. It happened after I cancelled, and I said, "Eh, maybe some weird charge they missed." It happened the next month, and I completely forgot about it after noticing. By the third month, I called in and couldn't access my account since your account number is your phone number and I no longer had one. I got a complete horseshit runaround from a ton of people before resolving it. Not that the charge really mattered, but they shouldn't get my money for free and it would have caused even more headaches if I ever closed that checking account.

I'll pay online all day long - it takes me a grand total of 10 minutes a month to knock out every bill. I'll let you auto-debit only if I'm getting a substantial discount (my student loans get .25% knocked off the interest rate).

Mantle
May 15, 2004

paperchaseguy posted:

It took 30 years for someone to tell me they were going to see "La Boheme". I was ready. :thurman:

also this is a cool game


I don't get the Carcassonne reference?

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Dead Cow posted:

To be fair to the coworker, I wouldn't want sprint to have the right to auto transact on any of my accounts.

For sketchy companies like that, I use the credit card option if its available. That way if Cox tried to screw me, Visa could drop the hammer on them.

Ulf
Jul 15, 2001

FOUR COLORS
ONE LOVE
Nap Ghost

Mantle posted:

I don't get the Carcassonne reference?
IIRC it's the starting tile. It has a city edge, a pasture edge, and two road edges.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Ulf posted:

IIRC it's the starting tile. It has a city edge, a pasture edge, and two road edges.

And why is that relevant to this thread?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Riding the bus to work every morning on a route that passes the Goodwill I'm lucky to overhear a ton of conversations from people bad with money.

There's one guy who's always talking about the casino, scratchers, and the lottery. He's that guy who's always saying he "won $200" at the slot machines and that there's a strategy for it. He's also always talking about how he can't afford to do things on the weekend.

There's another person who talks about all the rent to own furniture she has. This ones just sad.

There's also people who talk about getting paid under the table and then getting hosed over. It's always for "like a thousand" dollars too. Not that I'm blaming these people for getting hosed over, but their attitudes are also in general that it's the cost of doing business. I've heard one person say he willingly took the job knowing he was gonna get hosed over for $1000 which he figured was the price of being paid under the table.

But today I heard a new one. Some guy was talking about how his job paid him in prepaid Visa cards cause of some conspiracy to "get rid of money." He was talking about this great idea he had too. You know how jobs give you paychecks "with numbers on the bottom?" He's figured out that these numbers "tell the banks that the checks have money in them" and that he's going get himself a good printer and change these numbers around.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

Mantle posted:

And why is that relevant to this thread?

Possibly because it is my avatar and I had been posting recently.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Boris Galerkin posted:

You know how jobs give you paychecks "with numbers on the bottom?" He's figured out that these numbers "tell the banks that the checks have money in them" and that he's going get himself a good printer and change these numbers around.
:laffo: That's a pro counterfeiter right there.

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Boris Galerkin posted:

But today I heard a new one. Some guy was talking about how his job paid him in prepaid Visa cards cause of some conspiracy to "get rid of money." He was talking about this great idea he had too. You know how jobs give you paychecks "with numbers on the bottom?" He's figured out that these numbers "tell the banks that the checks have money in them" and that he's going get himself a good printer and change these numbers around.

The answer to your money problems: check fraud.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

MickeyFinn posted:

The answer to your money problems: check fraud.

Living expenses are low in jail, it's true!

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Living expenses are low in jail, it's true!

If you don't know the value of money outside of prison, you're just setting yourself up to be hustled in Oz.

Bitch traded 10 whole menthols for an extra dessert, what a rube :smug:

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Living expenses are low in jail, it's true!

Did you know that they will pay you to be there??

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

Don't forget the fact that you could very well come out of prison with a better physique than you have now. Plus, free sex.

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern
Down with prison chat, up with car chat. Saw this while browsing AI: some poor guy buys a 9 year old V12 Benz for more than half his annual salary, and records its hilarious litany of problems:
http://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w220/429206-my-first-s-class-deposit-paid-secure-2003-s600.html

I thought about posting it in the schadenfreude thread but there were no gifs of ball torture.

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Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
No, down with car chat too

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