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Alkydere posted:I would honestly love it if the EMS were the ones being given military surplus. I seeing one of those tearing down the street with a heart attack victim in the back would be awesome/terrifying. These things get what, 3, maybe 5 miles per gallon? Unless someone is trying to blow up ambulances in your town, it's a complete waste of money.
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Amergin posted:What if the bully just choose to ignore the punishment? Or, as I said before, what if the punishment makes the problem worse? Do you then just kick the bully out of school? Many times this is exactly what happens in the sense that they get sent to an alternative school, usually some acronym that schools and parents send their children to, they either require special needs education that the school just isn't prepared to offer, or they're literal bullies who the school has given up on for a month or whatever the sentence is.
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Amergin posted:What if the bully just choose to ignore the punishment? Or, as I said before, what if the punishment makes the problem worse? Do you then just kick the bully out of school? Yes.
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Amergin posted:What if the bully just choose to ignore the punishment? Or, as I said before, what if the punishment makes the problem worse? Do you then just kick the bully out of school? Yes? Eventually if they show themselves to be completely incapable of being a decent human being you do kick them out. It's called expulsion.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:52
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Make all nerds wear body cameras. Just solved the bullying problem.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:55
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Amergin posted:What if the bully just choose to ignore the punishment? Or, as I said before, what if the punishment makes the problem worse? Do you then just kick the bully out of school? Yes if the bully continues to create a hostile learning environment for other students after punishing them multiple times then eventually you'd have no other choice. Do you think students should be allowed to create a hostile learning environment for other students indefinitely with nothing to stop them? Look at the Anoka-Hennepin school district situation a couple years back and see where that leads. Not everyone can just sit there and take the bullying forever, people commit suicide or at the very least will suffer academically and emotionally. You're basically saying that the bully's learning environment is more important than that of their victims.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:56
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MaxxBot posted:Yes if the bully continues to create a hostile learning environment for other students after punishing them multiple times then eventually you'd have no other choice. Do you think students should be allowed to create a hostile learning environment for other students indefinitely with nothing to stop them? I'm saying if this is the road we're going down, I can see that eventually teasing a kid because he considers himself a "kitsune otherkin" and posts lovely poetry on tumblr will lead to you being expelled. EDIT: My point being that if you try your hardest to protect children from any and all teasing or criticism, where does that end? Obviously teasing gay kids (which is laughable - do you really think children know they're gay?) to the point of suicide is abhorrent, but if we ban teasing based on sexuality, is that going to be it? I doubt it, given the current "TRIGGER WARNINGS!" PC silliness going on. Amergin fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 18:02
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MaxxBot posted:Yes if the bully continues to create a hostile learning environment for other students after punishing them multiple times then eventually you'd have no other choice. Do you think students should be allowed to create a hostile learning environment for other students indefinitely with nothing to stop them? googled the Anoka-Hennepin thing and some article noted complaints about the change in school policy and settlements in court quote:Laurie Thompson, spokeswoman for the Parents Action League, called the settlement a "travesty." Apparently one of the school board members resigned over them caving into the gay agenda or whatever as well. Somehow indoctrination involves an open environment free from hostility, but doesnt include making all your young students hate gays because jesus says so??
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Sep 12, 2014 18:04
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Amergin posted:EDIT: My point being that if you try your hardest to protect children from any and all teasing or criticism, where does that end? Obviously teasing gay kids (which is laughable - do you really think children know they're gay?) to the point of suicide is abhorrent, but if we ban teasing based on sexuality, is that going to be it? I doubt it, given the current "TRIGGER WARNINGS!" PC silliness going on.  How do kids know they're straight?
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Sep 12, 2014 18:11
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Remember when those militias put out a call to mass near the Texas/Mexico border? Well, they now plan to block several border crossings while armed.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:16
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Raskolnikov38 posted:So I guess Mitch got himself a non-retarded campaign manager if this is the ad they're coming out with after the Paulite resigned. This is actually a pretty good ad, as someone who would never vote Republican it casts the options as serve in heaven-reign in hell. It would to be good for the country to get rid of McConnell, but I can't imagine the state specifically will get more favors out of it.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:17
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Every gay person I've talked to about it says they knew from a very young age. Like 5 or so.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:20
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Remember when those militias put out a call to mass near the Texas/Mexico border? Well, they now plan to block several border crossings while armed. Is it bad that I hope they accidentally shoot each other? One side lines up on the US side, one side sneaks to the Mexican side, they're too stupid to know what's going on, and a bunch of hicks with power fantasies remove themselves from the equation with no innocent casualties.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:22
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Amergin posted:I'm saying if this is the road we're going down, I can see that eventually teasing a kid because he considers himself a "kitsune otherkin" and posts lovely poetry on tumblr will lead to you being expelled. Expulsion would be the last resort after many warnings and punishments, continually tormenting a student and creating a hostile learning environment over a long period of time for any reason is unacceptable. Amergin posted:EDIT: My point being that if you try your hardest to protect children from any and all teasing or criticism, where does that end? Obviously teasing gay kids (which is laughable - do you really think children know they're gay?) to the point of suicide is abhorrent, but if we ban teasing based on sexuality, is that going to be it? I doubt it, given the current "TRIGGER WARNINGS!" PC silliness going on. Maybe you're not remembering clearly or your experiences were different but kids start having sexual feelings at pretty young ages. If that question was really sincere perhaps you should try talking to a gay person sometime.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:23
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Remember when those militias put out a call to mass near the Texas/Mexico border? Well, they now plan to block several border crossings while armed. Someone will be shot. Probably a federal agent.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:24
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BAWRLIN posted:Every gay person I've talked to about it says they knew from a very young age. Like 5 or so. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 18:25
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BAWRLIN posted:Every gay person I've talked to about it says they knew from a very young age. Like 5 or so. That's sort of unfair, all 5 year old boys think girls are gross. But wait, instead of engaging the highly ranked amateur trolls here, let's watch the professionals at the White House Press Brief! I'm putting money that someone will bring up the reporter who took a boat across Lake Erie today, although it's pretty much anyone's guess whether it will be in light of Ebola, ISIL, immigration, or all three. Nothing like sick terrorists who want to get in on our awesome healthcare system.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:27
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Around 4th or 5th grade (puberty) was when I knew I liked girls. I can only imagine it's the same for gay kids.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:30
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Part of me wants the next one of these idiots trying to prove how lacking our security is to get nabbed and given the full Guantanamo treatment and at the next press conference Obama just goes "yeah we caught an attempted terrorist crossing the border. Which one of you jokers wants to try next?  "
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Sep 12, 2014 18:31
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Teddybear posted:Is it bad that I hope they accidentally shoot each other? One side lines up on the US side, one side sneaks to the Mexican side, they're too stupid to know what's going on, and a bunch of hicks with power fantasies remove themselves from the equation with no innocent casualties. y'all know that if shots were fired they would somehow manage to gun down at least one pregnant mexican girl, suspecting her of smuggling Islamic Ebola Bombs under her blouse. If you need to wish for something, wish for them to fall into a sinkhole or something on the way there.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, and then depending on their family situation, painfully denied their own feelings for another ten plus years. Yeah. My brother came out about 3 years ago when he was 23, which made me wonder if I should have known or how I could have been more supportive. It put a lot of his high school behavioral problems in context, though, what with the living a lie and such. 
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Amergin posted:I'm saying if this is the road we're going down, I can see that eventually teasing a kid because he considers himself a "kitsune otherkin" and posts lovely poetry on tumblr will lead to you being expelled. Jesus, you're a vile human being. The fact that you are representative of 40 to 50% of the American electorate literally makes me want to cry.
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PhilippAchtel posted:Jesus, you're a vile human being. The fact that you are representative of 40 to 50% of the American electorate literally makes me want to cry. I'm a vile human being for wanting boundaries in the PC war?
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There is no "PC war". Society is just slowing deciding that it doesn't want to accept people acting outright abusive and hateful. It's like my friend who complains that he can't call people faggots anymore, you can still say and do hateful and abusive things, there's just fewer people willing to ignore or accept that behavior. Amergin posted:is that going to be it? I doubt it, given the current "TRIGGER WARNINGS!" PC silliness going on. Could you straw man any harder? The "OMG TRIGGERS!" thing is almost exclusive to the crazy parts of the internet. And because of that idiots try to label any legitimate use of content warnings in situations like college classes as "Crazed liberal feminists pussifying the nation!". Crain fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 18:39
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Please do no exhibit emotion in front of Amergin as he lacks the necessary tools to process it.
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Don't kick bullies out of school, that's positive reinforcement. Set them up with a behavioral IEP. They can sit their asses in a resource room all day with one teacher and get healed of their misconceptions, and their parents can come to IEP meetings and explain what steps they are taking at home to quit being idiots. Suspension and expulsion are fuckin' stupid and are disproportionately used against those kids the administrators find scary. Guess who that is?
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Amergin posted:I'm a vile human being for wanting boundaries in the PC war? I'm a white male. I have never been harmed by the "PC war". Shut up.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:42
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Amergin posted:I'm a vile human being for wanting boundaries in the PC war?
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Amergin posted:I'm a vile human being for wanting boundaries in the PC war? Go talk to some actual gay people and educate yourself.
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Joementum posted:Mitch is now trying an untested campaign strategy: telling voters that he owns bones at parliamentary tactics. The problem with this is that it's a good argument to make if you're talking to a room full of wonks, but it doesn't work so well in, um, Kentucky.
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Alter Ego posted:The problem with this is that it's a good argument to make if you're talking to a room full of wonks, but it doesn't work so well in, um, Kentucky. I think he is pretty confident of reelection by this point (most folks here in the state consider it a foregone conclusion) and sees no harm in trying to pad his numbers by picking up the middle-class swing voters who tend to favor "welp, at least he Gets Things Done!" rather than doubling down on his hick base. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 18:51
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When do children figure out they're straight, Amergin? When they get their driver's license?
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Alter Ego posted:The problem with this is that it's a good argument to make if you're talking to a room full of wonks, but it doesn't work so well in, um, Kentucky. "If all McConnell learned how to do in the time he's spent in Washington on our dime is something you could do with a copy of the Senate Rules out of the bookstore in the lobby, then maybe it's time to bring in someone new." "I'm Allison Grimes, and I approve this message, because I can read a loving book when I need to do procedural poo poo, c'mon."
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Sep 12, 2014 18:54
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Where does the War on Christmas fall? It part of the War on PC?
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Crain posted:There is no "PC war" Of course there isn't. It's never a bad thing to suppress opinions you disagree with and label them as "offensive." PhilippAchtel posted:Go talk to some actual gay people and educate yourself. I've talked to plenty of gay, bi, trans and generally kinky folks. Many of them experimented in college to figure out what they were into. Some did in high school. Many straight and gay people I know went through various "phases" when they were young - gay folks thought they were bi or straight, straight folks thought they were bi or gay. Sexuality isn't so clear-cut as to assume a 10 year old knows he's gay. SedanChair posted:When do children figure out they're straight, Amergin? When they get their driver's license? When they're old enough to know what sexual orientation even means? Late high school? College? It depends on the person, but I'd bet the vast majority of kids who think they might be gay when they're young were just going through a phase, or wanted to be "different" and "cool." It's like being goth. DemeaninDemon posted:Where does the War on Christmas fall? It part of the War on PC? Yes. Part of a war that started as a genuine attempt to disentangle Christianity and the government and then somehow wound up trying to ban Santa.
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Amergin posted:When they're old enough to know what sexual orientation even means? Late high school? College? Hahaha. Wow, you really need to get outside more if you think most people learned what sexual orientation was during late high school or college.
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Amergin: being gay is like being goth - it's a phase, man
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anonumos posted:Amergin: being gay is like being goth - it's a phase, man Also a real serious thing we should take into consideration before doing anything to try to reduce the suicide rate for gay youths: Santa.
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So Amergin, I, most of the kids I knew growing up, and most of the kids I know now had "crushes" at some point by the age of ten. Did you have a lot of crushes on boys at that time in your life, before you had "figured out" your sexuality?
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Amergin posted:When they're old enough to know what sexual orientation even means? Late high school? College? I know that you're just making poo poo up as you go along but I love how a couple pages ago you said that anti-gay bullying is inevitable because gays are social outcasts in school and now you're saying that people pretend to be gay because it's "cool" and "different."
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