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Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Pretty sure there are only blue, black, and red demons and Lorwyn had none at all.

edit: Laaaaame. \/

There's a non-changeling demon in Shadowmoor too, if that counts.

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Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
But it's not white.

Myriad Truths
Oct 13, 2012
Hm, MTGO showing its stuff. They're watching a replay at the MTGOCC, and due to a bug with Ajani's +1/+1 counters, Prime Speaker Zegana enters the battlefield with over 1000 +1/+1 counters, causing the player to deck himself and crash the replay (that did not happen in the actual game, where it was a mere 13/13)

Applebees
Jul 23, 2013

yospos

Myriad Truths posted:

Hm, MTGO showing its stuff. They're watching a replay at the MTGOCC, and due to a bug with Ajani's +1/+1 counters, Prime Speaker Zegana enters the battlefield with over 1000 +1/+1 counters, causing the player to deck himself and crash the replay (that did not happen in the actual game, where it was a mere 13/13)

I had a replay once where Polukranos became monstrous for 2 and dealt over a million damage to kill a 3/3.

Applebees fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Sep 13, 2014

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.
I love that the Athreos themed decks are going to be docked points for playing Godless Shrine.

Edit: Dave Humpherys just has the worst luck ever. Game 1 he had 3 Heroes' Podium opening hand, Game 3 he draws the full playset.

qbert fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Sep 13, 2014

Cozz
Jun 19, 2005

Perhaps you need to... reverse... his polarity? Hack? Do some hacking?
Does Voice of Resurgence see any plan in the non-rotating formats, or is it's price due to being a mythic from a small set? I I'd like to pick some up for some commander decks, but if their price is going to go lower than the $15-$20ish soon I don't want to spend much more than I have to.

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.

Cozz posted:

Does Voice of Resurgence see any plan in the non-rotating formats, or is it's price due to being a mythic from a small set? I I'd like to pick some up for some commander decks, but if their price is going to go lower than the $15-$20ish soon I don't want to spend much more than I have to.
Sees play in Pod.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

Cozz posted:

Does Voice of Resurgence see any plan in the non-rotating formats, or is it's price due to being a mythic from a small set? I I'd like to pick some up for some commander decks, but if their price is going to go lower than the $15-$20ish soon I don't want to spend much more than I have to.
It's in the standard list for Melira Pod in Modern, and at least on MTGO it's the most popular successful archetype.

Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014

Carrasco posted:

This, Shatter, Ghostfire Blade and probably others are setting us up for a huge artifact theme in Fate Reforged.

This land and ghostfire blade both work really well with morph creatures, too.

A Moose
Oct 22, 2009



I kind of want to make janky decks with lots of expensive delve stuff and Riddle of Lightning. Zapping someone for 10 and then being able to cast the spell you zapped them with seems pretty okay. If only I could play Erratic Explosion too. Maybe I'll just make a dumb casual deck with those and some blue card filtering, and maybe some spell copying.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Lobsterpillar posted:

This land and ghostfire blade both work really well with morph creatures, too.

The thing is. Ghostfire Blade works amazingly well with Ornithopter. No joke. Blue or Izzet artifact deck out of no where that just has Ornithopter, Ghostfire Blades, Ensoul Artifact, Chief Engineer, Shrapnel Blast, and a couple Ugin's Nexus/Soul of New Phyrexia/Scuttling Doom Engine.

Magical artifact land!

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



A Moose posted:

I kind of want to make janky decks with lots of expensive delve stuff and Riddle of Lightning. Zapping someone for 10 and then being able to cast the spell you zapped them with seems pretty okay. If only I could play Erratic Explosion too. Maybe I'll just make a dumb casual deck with those and some blue card filtering, and maybe some spell copying.

The problem is that Riddle of Lightning doesn't do enough damage for the kill, so you'd need to cast multiples or deal 10 damage by some other means. If you do go for it, the best build would be RUG or Jund because green has the best self-milling cards.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

AlternateNu posted:

The thing is. Ghostfire Blade works amazingly well with Ornithopter. No joke. Blue or Izzet artifact deck out of no where that just has Ornithopter, Ghostfire Blades, Ensoul Artifact, Chief Engineer, Shrapnel Blast, and a couple Ugin's Nexus/Soul of New Phyrexia/Scuttling Doom Engine.

Magical artifact land!

I just really have to say that the Scutting Doom Engine is easily one of my favorite M15 cards, even more than the Souls. All of its effects are just so drat good and it's an easy 11 damage with a Shrapnel Blast with potentially 17 in one turn if it attacked. I did a casual sealed thing with a buddy of mine and even stuck it in a black deck. I nearly managed to win by giving one of his creatrues death touch with Necrobite which would have been absolutely hilarious.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110
Looks like Sarkhan was a Mardu, don't know if we knew that.

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.
I think some of us already knew.

Gensuki
Sep 2, 2011
Sarkhan being Mardu has been known before we knew what the Mardu mechanic was I believe...

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received
The flavor text of... one of the cards in KTK makes it sound like he gave up the title of Mardu's khan to gallivant, the way Zurgo taunts him about what he gave up.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Angry Grimace posted:

Weird question: are we expecting the Onslaught fetches to crater much more? I want to play Onslaught Windswept Heath because I like the art a lot, but I don't want to pay a tremendous premium for them.

If it's anything like shocklands, they'll hold steady at 1.5x to 2x whatever the in-print ones are at.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

It's mentioned in half a dozen cards in the set, the Khans trailer video, and also in every flavor thing written in the last month or so... yeah?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Not sure if it's been posted but I always like little touches like this.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
Is this the place where I can bitch about a booster box? Because ugh this M15 I opened. The best thing was the promo Rabblemaster I got for buying it. Only mythics were a Chandra, Soul of Zendikar and Sliver Hivelord. Few decent rares but three mythics for a booster box sounds really low to me. Had a Theros fatpack too today with absolutely fuckall in it as well :(

NivMizzet
May 22, 2004

"My criticism of the Izzet is that their impulse for learning seems too much like impulse and too little like learning."
-Trigori, Azorius senator
Commander banlist has been updated. Major change is that they no longer keep a separate "banned" list and "banned as Commander" list, and now there's just one banlist. Probably to do with the fact that MTGO has no way to differentiate the banlists that way.

quote:

Braids, Cabal Minion is banned
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary is banned
Erayo, Soratami Ascendent is banned

Kokusho, the Evening Star is unbanned
Metalworker is unbanned

Good luck finding Metalworkers now, they're all sold out on TCGPlayer and eBay except for a few at 3x their original price.

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

The flavor text of... one of the cards in KTK makes it sound like he gave up the title of Mardu's khan to gallivant, the way Zurgo taunts him about what he gave up.

He was never Khan, but he was talented enough to be in a position where he was leading troops, despite not really fitting in with the Mardu. Then he went all dragonfire-y and went dragonspotting across the planes.

Antifa Spacemarine
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.

Cunso posted:

Commander banlist has been updated. Major change is that they no longer keep a separate "banned" list and "banned as Commander" list, and now there's just one banlist. Probably to do with the fact that MTGO has no way to differentiate the banlists that way.


Good luck finding Metalworkers now, they're all sold out on TCGPlayer and eBay except for a few at 3x their original price.

Man just after I made an elf deck featuring Rofellos. He was probably too OP anyway. When are they going to ban cyclonic rift though? That's the real problem card IMO.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Zorak posted:

It's mentioned in half a dozen cards in the set, the Khans trailer video, and also in every flavor thing written in the last month or so... yeah?

It was also mentioned in the SDCC panel; meaning, the first time we were told about the Mardu.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Tracula posted:

Is this the place where I can bitch about a booster box? Because ugh this M15 I opened. The best thing was the promo Rabblemaster I got for buying it. Only mythics were a Chandra, Soul of Zendikar and Sliver Hivelord. Few decent rares but three mythics for a booster box sounds really low to me. Had a Theros fatpack too today with absolutely fuckall in it as well :(

Don't open booster packs unless you're drafting/sealed with them or you're willing to accept that you'll lose value on average.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Thank god Kahn's is next week cause I am SUPER tired of this draft format. I'm tired of either playing Trips/Charge every draft or losing to Trips/Charge if I don't...

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Tracula posted:

Is this the place where I can bitch about a booster box? Because ugh this M15 I opened. The best thing was the promo Rabblemaster I got for buying it. Only mythics were a Chandra, Soul of Zendikar and Sliver Hivelord. Few decent rares but three mythics for a booster box sounds really low to me. Had a Theros fatpack too today with absolutely fuckall in it as well :(

Your chance of getting a mythic in a pack is 1/8 roughly, so 3-5 per box is about average. Buying a box just to open the packs is a terrible idea. Most rares are worthless in pretty much any set. And in most sets there are some terrible mythics. What did you expect, that every other pack would have a planeswalker or a Chord of Calling or a Rabblemaster? Your odds of getting any specific rare aren't high and there isn't much in the set that's worth anything.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Entropic posted:

Your chance of getting a mythic in a pack is 1/8 roughly, so 3-5 per box is about average. Buying a box just to open the packs is a terrible idea. Most rares are worthless in pretty much any set. And in most sets there are some terrible mythics. What did you expect, that every other pack would have a planeswalker or a Chord of Calling or a Rabblemaster? Your odds of getting any specific rare aren't high and there isn't much in the set that's worth anything.

Eh of course not. Just had opened packs with friends before and it never this sorta dry before on pulling anything interesting at all.

is that good
Apr 14, 2012
I really like the art and flavour of this set. I haven't really seen the flavour based on various parts of Asia done so well before.

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

Allstone posted:

I really like the art and flavour of this set. I haven't really seen the flavour based on various parts of Asia done so well before.

Kamigawa did really good at being Japanese flavored. It's just that no one got it so everybody hates it or something. :qqsay:

:rip: Return to Kamigawa.

Algid
Oct 10, 2007


I think that's more to do with how Kamigawa was bloated with unplayable crap sprinkled with completely broken cards.

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

No, the polls are very clear; the crap cards were hated, and also, separately, the audience didn't like/understand the setting.

The usual example given is: Without looking it up, what type of permanent is Chisei, Heart of Oceans?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

LordSaturn posted:

No, the polls are very clear; the crap cards were hated, and also, separately, the audience didn't like/understand the setting.

The usual example given is: Without looking it up, what type of permanent is Chisei, Heart of Oceans?

Legendary Creature. 2UU for a 4/4 flyer that says "At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a counter from a permanent you control or sacrifice Chisei.

:colbert:

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Some Numbers posted:

Legendary Creature. 2UU for a 4/4 flyer that says "At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a counter from a permanent you control or sacrifice Chisei.

:colbert:

'Cept you forgot the creature type :colbert:

(yeah, it's obviously spirit)

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
Fair; it's a Spirit, like almost everything else.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
The biggest problem with Kamigawa is that Spiritcraft and Splice onto Arcane are incredibly insular and parasitic and the power level was intentionally ratcheted down from Mirrodin block.

Triple Champions is actually a really good draft format.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


LordSaturn posted:

No, the polls are very clear; the crap cards were hated, and also, separately, the audience didn't like/understand the setting.

The usual example given is: Without looking it up, what type of permanent is Chisei, Heart of Oceans?

Legendary Creature - Spirit

Removes a counter from a creature every turn or else sacrifice it.

I hit the random button a lot during the longer lectures.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Some Numbers posted:

The biggest problem with Kamigawa is that Spiritcraft and Splice onto Arcane are incredibly insular and parasitic and the power level was intentionally ratcheted down from Mirrodin block.

I'm really curious what the Mirrodin/Kamigawa standard was like

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Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

Rinkles posted:

I'm really curious what the Mirrodin/Kamigawa standard was like

Tops and Jittes as far as the eye can see. :v:

Kamigawa/Ravnica was similar I believe.

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