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Not only is TRACING (no talent involved, the lowest denominator) but they also basically said in their page that you would do only the lovely kind of traced painting. Some of the examples on the kickstarter page are laughable.
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Japanese Phone Box posted:Not only is TRACING (no talent involved, the lowest denominator) but they also basically said in their page that you would do only the lovely kind of traced painting. Some of the examples on the kickstarter page are laughable. Yeah, I can't draw for poo poo, but using a reference like that, I can do better than a lot of those without tracing.
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I love the before and after: And for just $100, he will personally do a tracing specially for you!
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Dude could start a goldmine thread from the Before pictures alone
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SupSuper posted:I love the before and after: The cat is the one that gets me, even the after version looks like the most  cat in the world.
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So the "Epiphany onE Puck" (the coaster that charges your iphone with a cup of coffee) is probably safe to call a scam now. No word from the creator in several months, and backers are getting restless. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epiphanylabs/epiphany-one-puck/comments
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wa27 posted:So the "Epiphany onE Puck" (the coaster that charges your iphone with a cup of coffee) is probably safe to call a scam now. No word from the creator in several months, and backers are getting restless. ah as it turns out, thermodynamics is a thing
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Rudager posted:The cat is the one that gets me, even the after version looks like the most That's because it's a kitten, and all kittens have the downs.
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wa27 posted:So the "Epiphany onE Puck" (the coaster that charges your iphone with a cup of coffee) is probably safe to call a scam now. No word from the creator in several months, and backers are getting restless. I think it was probably safe to call a scam the moment they said "charge your phone with a cup of coffee."
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Rosalind posted:I think it was probably safe to call a scam the moment they said "charge your phone with a cup of coffee." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtmF8RRxBXg
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wa27 posted:So the "Epiphany onE Puck" (the coaster that charges your iphone with a cup of coffee) is probably safe to call a scam now. No word from the creator in several months, and backers are getting restless.
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Rosalind posted:I think it was probably safe to call a scam the moment they said "charge your phone with a cup of coffee." hey now flip the thing over and you can charge with a cold drink too. it's revolutionary.
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So Ritot is now up to a $1,300,000. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ritot-the-first-projection-watch The comments section has the Ritot team saying they're reporting backers to Indiegogo for calling them a scam. I have no idea whether Indiegogo actually blocks or bans people, but if they block someone for calling it a rip-off and it turns out to be a scam, couldn't that make Indiegogo culpable in the scam? I'm just trying to figure out where the tipping point is from "it's an open marketplace - we make no guarantees" to "we're making money off letting other people screw backers out of money." And of course the Ritot team is Russian.
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SupSuper posted:I love the before and after: I like the Superman one. Now you too can draw these totally original things that you can call your own and just happen to look like they're from popular comics. AKA the Nick Simmons school of drawing. Krispy Kareem posted:So Ritot is now up to a $1,300,000. I hope that when the Ritot guys take the money and run that someone does successfully sue the gently caress out of Indiegogo because there has to be some basic level of responsibility here. The impossibility of this being anything other than wishful thinking at best and a blatant scam at worst has been hammered for how long now? Kickstarter caught flak for not taking down the date rape handbook because they 'only' had about a day to respond (and googling what PUAs are apparently takes awhile) while IG has been told about this for days or weeks now.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I hope that when the Ritot guys take the money and run that someone does successfully sue the gently caress out of Indiegogo because there has to be some basic level of responsibility here. The impossibility of this being anything other than wishful thinking at best and a blatant scam at worst has been hammered for how long now? Kickstarter caught flak for not taking down the date rape handbook because they 'only' had about a day to respond (and googling what PUAs are apparently takes awhile) while IG has been told about this for days or weeks now. Let's say that Indiegogo takes action in a case like this. How are they expected to audit the project? Should they only do it if the project is wildly over target? (Note that there is no difference in terms of exposure for any given backer between the target being hit exactly and the target being exceeded by $1,000,000.) Does it mean that there's an implicit endorsement by Indiegogo for everything that hasn't been taken down? That would be very dangerous for them. I suspect that Kickstarter's time was also spent getting confirmation from outside counsel about how to take it down without presumptively assuming responsibility for proactively policing such things.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I hope that when the Ritot guys take the money and run that someone does successfully sue the gently caress out of Indiegogo because there has to be some basic level of responsibility here. The impossibility of this being anything other than wishful thinking at best and a blatant scam at worst has been hammered for how long now? Kickstarter caught flak for not taking down the date rape handbook because they 'only' had about a day to respond (and googling what PUAs are apparently takes awhile) while IG has been told about this for days or weeks now. IGG's Terms and Conditions straight up tell people that they assume absolutely no responsibility or culpability for any of the projects on their site: quote:Indiegogo makes no representations about the quality, safety, morality or legality of any Campaign, Perk or Contribution or the truth or accuracy of your User Content (as defined below) posted on the Service. Indiegogo does not represent that Campaign Owners will deliver Perks or that Contributions will be used as described in the Campaign. Users use the Service at their own risk. However they do have foolproof safeguards against scammers: quote:Campaign Owners are not permitted to create a Campaign to raise funds for illegal activities, to cause harm to people or property, or to scam others. If you know that your Campaign is claiming to do the impossible or it's just plain phony, don't post it.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:IGG's Terms and Conditions straight up tell people that they assume absolutely no responsibility or culpability for any of the projects on their site: Disclaimers saying you take no responsibility don't always protect you from lawsuits, especially if the creators broke any of Indiegogo's rules - which these guys kind of did by making a project with fake names and country of origin. Not that I care what happens to the backers. It's just annoying seeing such a blatant money grab. Maybe these guys will get their million dollars and immediately lose it when Russia invades the Ukraine and their economy crashes.
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SupSuper posted:I love the before and after: The best part of this is the idea that someone who can only manage stick figures would give their stick figures horrifying existential nightmare heads. A horrifying dreidl man with no brain in his open skull, staring forever into the abyss. That's what I think of when I try to draw supermans.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:The best part of this is the idea that someone who can only manage stick figures would give their stick figures horrifying existential nightmare heads. A horrifying dreidl man with no brain in his open skull, staring forever into the abyss. That's what I think of when I try to draw supermans. I'm the donut mouth.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:IGG's Terms and Conditions straight up tell people that they assume absolutely no responsibility or culpability for any of the projects on their site: Of course, they used to make rather loftier claims: quote:Indiegogo has a comprehensive fraud-prevention system to protect our users. All campaigns and contributions go through a fraud review, which allows us to catch any and all cases of fraud. https://web.archive.org/web/20130911201538/http://support.indiegogo.com/entries/20501033-How-Does-Indiegogo-Deal-With-Fraudulent-Campaigns-
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Japanese Phone Box posted:Not only is TRACING (no talent involved, the lowest denominator) but they also basically said in their page that you would do only the lovely kind of traced painting. Some of the examples on the kickstarter page are laughable. It's less tracing and more camera obscura, which many great artists used.
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This might have already been posted and I missed it. But another butter knife Kickstarter popped up: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/that/heated-butter-spreader and what is silly is that it's already on sale on Amazon, and has been there for at least a few months: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KGWNOO6 Despite that, it's doubled it's funding goal at $40k and there is not cost savings at all if you weren't one of the early backers (and even then it was only saving $5). I just don't get why people are backing this.
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.Z. posted:This might have already been posted and I missed it.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:IGG's Terms and Conditions straight up tell people that they assume absolutely no responsibility or culpability for any of the projects on their site: That disclaimer is in no way a legal shield for sites like IGG or KS. A lawyer could and would destroy that if it was the site's actual defense in court. When numerous sites are reporting on how a very large funding campaign is offering something that's only slightly more plausible than a do-it yourself cold fusion reactor kit, or that they're actually based in a lawless blackhole like Russia while falsely claiming to have a presence in a location like the US, yes you should be held responsible if it's a scam because the scam wouldn't have been bale to take place without you providing the platform and carelessness in its operation.
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I must be missing something but why is that ritot watch thing so beyond the realm of possibility? it's projecting numbers and basic graphics on your hand. there are cell phones that can project movies and poo poo on the wall or whatever. like if the argument is 'they can't possibly make this in a way that won't completely suck' i would likely agree but I'm not seeing anything about it that particularly space age.
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Zereth posted:They didn't even rebrand it? Wow. From the makers in their comments: We are seeking funds to build the second generation spreader. If you are happy enough with the first gen - and yes it does work but we are trying to improve upon it - then we appreciate your business either way!
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Am I a bad person for briefly sifting through Ali baba seeing what could be rebranded and dropped shipped for a kick starter or indiegogo campaign?
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orphean posted:I must be missing something but why is that ritot watch thing so beyond the realm of possibility? it's projecting numbers and basic graphics on your hand. there are cell phones that can project movies and poo poo on the wall or whatever. Because it's projecting poo poo on your hand, which is at a very flat angle very close up, as opposed to a wall close to a right angle many feet away. It's very difficult to do that, optically, and especially for something that can be comfortably worn on a wrist and not bulge out too much to fit long sleeves or something. You can show this for yourself if you have an alarm clock or other item that projects a display and is small - trying to get a workable image for something nearly parallel with the projection direction gets really hard. fondue posted:Am I a bad person for briefly sifting through Ali baba seeing what could be rebranded and dropped shipped for a kick starter or indiegogo campaign? You know as long as you mention you're organizing cheaper product buys by getting a large order in, you're in the clear.
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Nintendo Kid posted:You can show this for yourself if you have an alarm clock or other item that projects a display and is small - trying to get a workable image for something nearly parallel with the projection direction gets really hard. That makes sense, thanks man. I was thinking it would work like one of these goofy things:  But even the projection distance on those is pretty low it is still a lot more than the 1.5 inches to your wrist or whatever it is that watch is trying to do.
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orphean posted:That makes sense, thanks man. I was thinking it would work like one of these goofy things: How do those work anyway? Like, why wouldn't it trigger a whole bunch of other keys accidentally because you're trying to hit a certain key, or what?
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Elissia posted:From the makers in their comments: We are seeking funds to build the second generation spreader. If you are happy enough with the first gen - and yes it does work but we are trying to improve upon it - then we appreciate your business either way!
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fondue posted:Am I a bad person for briefly sifting through Ali baba seeing what could be rebranded and dropped shipped for a kick starter or indiegogo campaign? This dude did it, selling 85 cent fountain pens for $50.00 (discounted from $85). https://medium.com/the-magazine/blurred-visionnaire-cbb0bc2869a
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^^^ I expect a lot of kickstarters are like this and never get caught. Pen enthusiasts are a die hard bunch but most are just like audiophiles: Walking piggy banks.orphean posted:I must be missing something but why is that ritot watch thing so beyond the realm of possibility? it's projecting numbers and basic graphics on your hand. there are cell phones that can project movies and poo poo on the wall or whatever. The issue is the form factor. Projecting across an uneven surface at an extremely obtuse angle is going to be difficult. Working that projector, the sensors to see where the hand is, the Bluetooth receiver and other assorted electronics for driving the projector and especially the battery into a wristband is just unrealistic. Add on top of that the staff are a few unknowns with no online presence, and the entire page consists of just photoshops of attractive stock photo people and you have an obvious scam. (Also these projectors tend to suck in open daylight.) MrAptronym has a new favorite as of 01:40 on Sep 16, 2014 |
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1680489050/the-poo-puck-an-earth-friendly-dog-waste-retrieval?ref=popular At the $45 level, Poo Puck Inc will print the faces of your terrible children on a stack of Post-It notes you can adhere to the back of the lid. So as you're stomping dog poo poo into your honeycomb apparatus, you can squish it into their smug faces and recall their tears as they begged you for a puppy that they now ignore to play videogames all day.
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FirstAidKite posted:How do those work anyway? Like, why wouldn't it trigger a whole bunch of other keys accidentally because you're trying to hit a certain key, or what? They usually have a secondary IR projection at the same time as the visible keyboard, and they detect finger positioning by the light of a key reflecting off the fingers. Typically, you have to get your fingers really close to the surface to be detected, to avoid false detections from the rest of the hand/fingers.
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orphean posted:That makes sense, thanks man. I was thinking it would work like one of these goofy things: Imagine using one of those while lying on a water bed with a fussy sleeper. It would still be better than the 'watch' being offered. Verdugo posted:This dude did it, selling 85 cent fountain pens for $50.00 (discounted from $85). The level of pen obsession saddens me more than anything else. It's a loving pen. These are the kinds of people who will probably go and spend $50 on some designer brand comb when one of those cheap 3 for a dollar black ones will work just as well. MrAptronym posted:(Also these projectors tend to suck in open daylight.) Even good projectors suck in open daylight. The sun might be far away but it's still really loving bright if it's not behind some cloud cover. The whole "bunch of stock photos with poo poo photoshopped on to it" should've been reason enough to step in but Indiegogo and Kickstarter will never be proactive when they can make money, until one or both of them finally get taken to court and are smacked the gently caress down for allowing scams and legally dubious (the PUA handbook) poo poo to be funded through them.
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fondue posted:Am I a bad person for briefly sifting through Ali baba seeing what could be rebranded and dropped shipped for a kick starter or indiegogo campaign? I just ran into this: http://www.selfiebrush.com/ I'm surprised this wasn't crowdfunded. It's perfect. Not quite practical, cheap to mass-produce and it involves an iPhone. Success guaranteed.
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Stick Insect posted:I just ran into this: http://www.selfiebrush.com/ msyronfire posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1680489050/the-poo-puck-an-earth-friendly-dog-waste-retrieval?ref=popular
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The world's smallest camera drone: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/3d-pocketcopter-the-flying-camera#home More accurately, low-rent 3D models of a flying suppository with nothing to indicate that they've lifted a finger towards making it work. Plus they claim it'll be able to record 3D images despite being way too small for a proper stereoscopic setup. Plus it was set up as flexible funding with a goal of only 15,000 Euros. Am I right in assuming that it's maybe slightly more likely to see production than the projector watch?
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