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Brownview
Oct 15, 2012

Nothing in this world can take the place of a power rack
Conversely, I will jump through hoops for free poo poo so pile the shameful tasks on @blzybub1.

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Psycho Landlord posted:

The intent is noble but the perverse glee we're seeing exhibited whenever a new goon is berated into suffering through some manchild's crossover fantasy egowank we found in a Star Trek game worries me a bit. I'm not gonna drop any names though, Railrokh.
We are the leaders.

A leader must be tested.

Walk the river of blood.

kafziel
Nov 11, 2009
Nobody should be tricked or forced into doing something like UESF, and you shouldn't get berated for passing it by. The willingness to seek that out, for its own sake, is a quality born, not imposed.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
I haven't yet ventured into the foundry missions. Considering pubbie bios and the way some of them behave, I'm not sure I want to.

Do people use foundry missions for dil farming or is that a Cryptic no-no?

Violent Kitten
Dec 26, 2011

Dearmad bhean
an ti ag an gcat.
Some foundry missions are ok, I often do the ground accolade grinders. If you set up your boffs right, you can go afk while they clear up. There's still a few which reward dil. Pick up Investigate Officer Reports from your list of available missions before doing a foundry mission, you'll get more dil from completing that.

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

Play all the Bijor and give them 5s.

Goat Pillager
Mar 1, 2013
I, and plenty of other fellow veterans of it, encourage people to do the UESF because lately we have too many people playing this game the exact way the pubbie menace does: comfortably sheltered from the greater community and occassionally space ship sperging when not behaving as hermits would.

Plus, as Nbreeki said, forge them in the hottest fire right at the start and they're ready for anything from then on out.

In a way we should thank the UESF, they've played a big part in why we can usually drum up 5 goons to crash an RP event, hose ERPers, or mess with Xean's head instead of just 1-2 while the rest keep sperging about lockboxes or builds.

Ibanez Murderface
Mar 7, 2005

#!/bin/bash
The UESF mission is awful and you're awful for exposing these poor fucks to it :colbert:

Enter at your own peril, cute newbies. Service guarantees citizenship.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003






Still hating on the nacelles of the bigger two but the rest of them aren't bad in this form and the Defiantlike's pretty awesome all-up.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
All I see with those sharp, angular lines are low poly models, even though they're not.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Aleth posted:

All I see with those sharp, angular lines are low poly models, even though they're not.

I know, I get that too. The sci ship suffers the worst, with the hexagon deflector and the out-of-place point on the front. The Eclipse at least looks like the angles work with the design, the sci has sharp angles and points on a circular ship.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Sep 16, 2014

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Aleth posted:

All I see with those sharp, angular lines are low poly models, even though they're not.
Yeah, it's really kind of an unfortunate resemblance there with all the sharp edges. It's easy to see they're way better modeled than that (especially if you compare them to the far lower polygon launch-era ships), but first impressions hurt.

If you didn't notice, the Scryer there has the alternate hull with the donut hole filled in. It's a shame nobody will ever fly it since it's a science vessel without sensor analysis for some goddamn reason, and the commander intel slot's shared with the science slot, removing the only possible benefit of a sciboat. :downs:

Personally, I like the looks. Not really something I'd want to see emulated on every Fed boat, but for their specific concept it works pretty well. But I've always had a soft spot for some of the derpier Cryptic designs. The main problem they have is there's always some element that feels out of place... the protruding deflector on the Avenger, the thin nacelles on the Odyssey, the hexagonal deflector on the Scryer there (which would even be fine if the corners were at the side rather than the top), and so on.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I think the Scryer's deflector might look a bit better in motion or from a different angle where you can see that it's actually up on a short pylon that merges into the lower corner. I kinda wish there was a two-nacelle option for the Eclipse, but I doubt it.

On an entirely different note, I really wish this game had a 'cinematic mode' like Sins of a Solar Empire that flicks off all the UI elements like shield circles and symbol popups on your ships for pretty Trek screenshot taking. Or even better, just a 'cinematic screenshot' button.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Sep 16, 2014

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


There's a few things that help there. PrintScrn Screenshots don't include the UI by default, but you can also do "/screenshot <name>" to take an uncompressed .tga. Sadly I think you need to turn off the shield angles and stuff manually in the configs to not have those show up though.

You can also do "/renderscale 2" to make the game render frames at twice the screen resolution, though this is generally at unplayable speeds (especially if you pick a number above 2) and is really only useful for screenshots. And you can do "/setregionfov <"space" or "ground"> <number>" to change the FOV. By default it's a kind of crappy 55 degrees, but for screenshotting you can kick it down to 20-30 and get way more dramatic angles.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Asimo posted:

And you can do "/setregionfov <"space" or "ground"> <number>" to change the FOV. By default it's a kind of crappy 55 degrees, but for screenshotting you can kick it down to 20-30 and get way more dramatic angles.

Oh man, tighter FOVs makes small escorts feel so much more small escorty. Neat trick, thanks.

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
Alt-f12 kills the HUD and maybe all the dumb fx like shield circles.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

loving hell those ships look awful. A very strong resemblance to the low poly garbage that plagued STO at launch.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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The battlecruiser looks better in the Intel skin.

JFC
Oct 16, 2003

Jesus F Christ
Finger Lickin' God
They finally make the Odyssey uniforms standard, and instead of embracing the current flagship's curves for new ship design they go back to the lovely ship designs from launch.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I think they're back to rushing too many ships out by a tight deadline like they were at launch.

Conskill
May 7, 2007

I got an 'F' in Geometry.
I get what they're trying to do, but what they're trying to do is stupid and awful.

Hopefully there'll be more T6 options / accessible T5-Us. Right now my Fed captain's only potential T5-U is the Risian Luxury Cruiser and I wanted something slightly more... Feddish?

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Conskill posted:

I get what they're trying to do, but what they're trying to do is stupid and awful.

Hopefully there'll be more T6 options / accessible T5-Us. Right now my Fed captain's only potential T5-U is the Risian Luxury Cruiser and I wanted something slightly more... Feddish?

Pick a fleet ship from this list, save up your dil/zen for the upgrade token and enjoy not having to fly one of those blocky abortions at end game.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know
I'm excited the Atrox is getting a third tac console. It is still poo poo, but it will be less poo poo!

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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Burning_Monk posted:

I'm excited the Atrox is getting a third tac console. It is still poo poo, but it will be less poo poo!

It needs a third tac power way, way more than it needs a third tac console.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

wdarkk posted:

It needs a third tac power way, way more than it needs a third tac console.

Of course, but really with FAW and Conn Doffs that lower TT you can get a lot done with it. And with the bump in Sci powers, dropping a GW3 and a TR2 can do some serious AOE damage now.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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Burning_Monk posted:

Of course, but really with FAW and Conn Doffs that lower TT you can get a lot done with it. And with the bump in Sci powers, dropping a GW3 and a TR2 can do some serious AOE damage now.

Yeah, and I guess you can substitute Polarize Hull for APO's tractor break - it's not like your sci slots are cramped.

BombermanX
Jan 13, 2011

I'm afraid of other people's opinions when they differ from my own. Please do not hurt my feelings.
I watched Wrath of Khan the other day. What episode does it refer to? I don't even

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

BombermanX posted:

I watched Wrath of Khan the other day. What episode does it refer to? I don't even

This one.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


Psycho Landlord posted:

the perverse glee we're seeing exhibited whenever a goon is suffering

Sums up the entirety of STO for me!

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

Burning_Monk posted:

Of course, but really with FAW and Conn Doffs that lower TT you can get a lot done with it. And with the bump in Sci powers, dropping a GW3 and a TR2 can do some serious AOE damage now.

I just double up on tac team and use the built in subsystem targeting instead of FaW. You really want to save your doff slots for sciholing, I mean if you want more weapon damage then why the gently caress are you in a catbus?

Goat Pillager
Mar 1, 2013
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7005783

Oh look, a blog on gear upgrades that somehow manages to say near nothing of value.

Correction: It tells us everything. All hail the grind.

Goat Pillager fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 16, 2014

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

Lagomorphic posted:

I just double up on tac team and use the built in subsystem targeting instead of FaW. You really want to save your doff slots for sciholing, I mean if you want more weapon damage then why the gently caress are you in a catbus?
Stalker fighters, I imagine.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Lagomorphic posted:

I just double up on tac team and use the built in subsystem targeting instead of FaW. You really want to save your doff slots for sciholing, I mean if you want more weapon damage then why the gently caress are you in a catbus?

Using the conn doffs means I only need one tac team, it's not I need a lot of sci doffs. Leaving me open to use FAW. Sci powers remain the same.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
That upgrade system doesn't look completely awful.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Sounds a bit like NWO's. Shove dilithium into item, shove zen store thing in to do it faster with better results, get higher tier item. It's pretty bullshit but we all saw it coming, the only real complaint I have is that the random chance for improvement (and obviously you won't get to pick mods) means all that expensive poo poo you have now has a good chance of being loaded up with DMG or something equally useless meaning you have to buy the item again and upgrade it again and have a random chance to get what you want. Basically the dil sink bullshit of the crafting system but now forcefully expanded to all gear. Eh.

The more NWO leaks into STO, the less I like the game. NWO was crippled by that bullshit.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know
At least it will let me finally upgrade the MACO Mk X set I have.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
Yeah it's the utterly lovely Neverwinter Online upgrade system that is explicitly designed to clog up your inventory and eat up your dil and zen. And they coupled it to the redone crafting system which is itself an even grindier version of the NWO crafting system.

I won't be surprised if any new missions don't have scaling rewards anymore and you'll be stuck with low tier gear you have to upgrade at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dil.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Wow that looks like loving trash.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Goat Pillager posted:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7005783

Oh look, a blog on gear upgrades that somehow manages to say near nothing of value.

Correction: It tells us everything. All hail the grind.

gently caress that's going to be annoying. Short of the universal consoles (which I imagine will have a change to be changed into Epic consoles?) that's everything else on a ship that needs upgrading. As well as the ship itself.

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Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


DatonKallandor posted:

I won't be surprised if any new missions don't have scaling rewards anymore and you'll be stuck with low tier gear you have to upgrade at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dil.
Depends. It looks like all the rep crap will be Mk XII (since that's what the delta rep stuff is) that you then get to pay more to upgrade, defeating the point of gating the grind in the first place. But on tribble there's been Mk XIII and XIV blue items from missions, so it's hard to say what the general scheme will be.

SKY COQ posted:

gently caress that's going to be annoying. Short of the universal consoles (which I imagine will have a change to be changed into Epic consoles?) that's everything else on a ship that needs upgrading. As well as the ship itself.
Apparently rep gear and other stuff that doesn't have randomly rolled mods will have a pre-defined upgrade path, so there's at least no worry about having to rebuy set gear after a lovely roll. This of course doesn't apply to your fleet/lockbox weapons. :v:

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