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Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Erenthal posted:

Now I know nothing of the american tax system, but confirm for me that poor people in the states still pay a shitload of taxes, especially those kinds of taxes such as sales tax that hit poor people proportionally heavier?

I mean, I know the answer, but I just want some counterweight to the sheer ill-informed madness that your right-wing politicians foist on people like freepers.

There are a wide range of regressive taxes such as the sales tax and gasoline tax, and various other things baked into prices here and there. These tend to hit the poorest hardest, of course. Some things are not taxed; typically, the big one is unprepared food, which is why sales tax is often absent or only applied to a few things at the supermarket.

However, 'taxpaying' in this context usually refers to income tax, which is levied in a progressive way - to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, who was for it, all those below a certain level are untaxed, while those of increasing means are taxed increasingly more - and property tax, which is dependent on the assessed value of your property and which I can't comment much on. Income tax is often held to be awful and horrible; property tax seems to be grudgingly accepted as legitimate in theory if not in the terms of the present rate.

The usual 'flat tax' solution is to charge some huge national sales tax, in the neighborhood of 30% or so, with rebates (maybe) for the poor and busted, or exemptions for things like basic food, or for buying secondhand goods (?). This would increase the burden on the poor substantially, while relieving the very richest from even the almost-token taxes they pay now. (The maximum income tax rate - which is only assessed on the slice of earnings above a certain level - is I believe 39.6%. Income from investments is taxed far lower.)

e: Oh yes, and payroll tax too, that's a significant one.

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 15:12

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

You forgot to mention they don't have a clue what a progressive tax is. They believe being paid 1$ into the next tax bracket means they get taxed more and thus make less by what ever percent.

# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:34

SubponticatePoster: Aug 9, 2004; Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.; Slippery Tilde

DemeaninDemon posted:

You forgot to mention they don't have a clue what a progressive tax is. They believe being paid 1$ into the next tax bracket means they get taxed more and thus make less by what ever percent.

You don't learn anything about marginal tax rates in a normal public school education. I was totally stupid on the whole thing into my 30's. I just explained it to my boss last week.

# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:41

GhostofJohnMuir: Aug 14, 2014; anime is not good

At least enough financial terms should be taught in primary education that the word marginal would automatically clue everyone in immediately as to how it worked.

# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:46

Duke Igthorn: Oct 11, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

DemeaninDemon posted:

You forgot to mention they don't have a clue what a progressive tax is. They believe being paid 1$ into the next tax bracket means they get taxed more and thus make less by what ever percent.

My boss has owned his business for almost 30 years and thought that this was how it works. His current accountant thinks this is how it works. I spent a whole day explaining it to him.

# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:53

Shugojin: Sep 6, 2007; THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...

SubponticatePoster posted:

You don't learn anything about marginal tax rates in a normal public school education. I was totally stupid on the whole thing into my 30's. I just explained it to my boss last week.

Yeah I didn't get it for a while either, I think it's that the term "tax bracket" confused me. I think this might be because the word "bracket" in English tends to mean totally separate things. Upon finding out how the income tax actually works I thought "...oh. That makes perfect sense!"

# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:55

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Shugojin posted:

Yeah I didn't get it for a while either, I think it's that the term "tax bracket" confused me. I think this might be because the word "bracket" in English tends to mean totally separate things. Upon finding out how the income tax actually works I thought "...oh. That makes perfect sense!"

Sad part is it's not loving confusing at all. However it's just so prevalent a lie that it's become truth to a lot of people.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:26

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Duke Igthorn posted:

My boss has owned his business for almost 30 years and thought that this was how it works. His current accountant thinks this is how it works. I spent a whole day explaining it to him.

Maybe he should get a new accountant.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:31

Shugojin: Sep 6, 2007; THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...

Actually yeah, how the hell do you become an accountant and not know that. There's a test for god's sake.

(The easy answer here is "nepotism, plus hiring a non-certified accountant is probably cheaper (until you get audited, I guess)")

# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:40

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Shugojin posted:

Actually yeah, how the hell do you become an accountant and not know that. There's a test for god's sake.

(The easy answer here is "nepotism, plus hiring a non-certified accountant is probably cheaper (until you get audited, I guess)")

But he went to Liberty U!

# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:48

Mr. Belpit: Nov 11, 2008

quote:

To: walford
They create the deplorable condition expecting white flight due to crime, rape, murder, drugs, and gang activities and then they blame them for this condition because they refuse to live in the sh##hole they created yet they live a good life on the taxpayers dole. Clintons labor secretary is just one more finger pointer from his or her glass house pointing the finger in our direction.

11 posted on 9/21/2014 2:33:33 PM by ronnie raygun
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They live in crushing, hellish poverty because the taxpayers all left and they're also living the high life of luxury on the taxpayer's dime!! :freep:

I wish I didn't know plenty of people, in my own family even, who would read that and earnestly agree with it

# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:52

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Hhahahahahahhaa black people live soul crushingly awful lives for the sole purpose of making white people move away

WHAT THE FUUUUCK

# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:56

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Mr. Belpit posted:

They live in crushing, hellish poverty because the taxpayers all left and they're also living the high life of luxury on the taxpayer's dime!!

I wish I didn't know plenty of people, in my own family even, who would read that and earnestly agree with it

Ditto. At least my grandparents are the flavor of :gop:

who genuinely think they're doing what's best, they just don't understand that the world doesn't work like it did in the 1950s.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 01:02

Duke Igthorn: Oct 11, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Shugojin posted:

Actually yeah, how the hell do you become an accountant and not know that. There's a test for god's sake.

(The easy answer here is "nepotism, plus hiring a non-certified accountant is probably cheaper (until you get audited, I guess)")

BING BING BING BING! The daughter of his last accountant!

# ? Sep 23, 2014 01:36

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

Erenthal posted:

Now I know nothing of the american tax system, but confirm for me that poor people in the states still pay a shitload of taxes, especially those kinds of taxes such as sales tax that hit poor people proportionally heavier?

I mean, I know the answer, but I just want some counterweight to the sheer ill-informed madness that your right-wing politicians foist on people like freepers.

As others mentioned there's all sorts of taxes and poo poo, like sales taxes, that are rather regressive.

Which is why as much as the conservatives scream until they're blue, illegal immigrants are actually a wonderful boon for the government due to taxes. There's no magical "wetback logistics train" going back to Mexico, so immigrant crop workers and other immigrant workers get their food, gas, clothes, etc at the same places we do and as such they pay sales tax on all of it. How much do they get out of the government? Jack and poo poo.

True, each individual immigrant gives a tiny amount due to the fact that even if they're not working illegally low wages they're generally working and living at poverty levels, but "a tiny bit of pure profit" x "a few million" = "a good sized chunk of pure profit" as far as the IRS and Treasury is concerned.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 03:14

The Rokstar: Aug 19, 2002; by FactsAreUseless

zeal posted:

Mormons believe there were two waves in the ancient settlement of North America. First were the Jaredites, whose first king (Jared) successfully appealed to God to allow them to keep the universal language after His destruction of the Tower of Babel. Jared's people crossed the sea in divinely inspired magical barges and settled the Americas as their Promised Land. The Jaredites warred incessantly with each other, and destroyed their own civilization.

Just after this a second group, Israelites who escaped the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians through divine guidance and sailed from the Red Sea to the Americas in another fleet of magical barges circa the 6th century. They arrived to find the Jaredites a scattered, primitive people and started settling the Americas as their Promised Land. Eventually they broke into factions, the bad guys were cursed with dark skin and slowly overwhelmed the pious white people, till finally the last Native American white man, Moroni, buried a metal book containing the story of all this as well as a magical breastplate and 'seer stones' that allowed the wearer to translate the book under a mound in either Ohio or upstate New York.

The Native Americans found by white settlers were the victorious descendants of Lehi's people who, like the Jaredites before them, destroyed their own high civilization through incessant internecine war. Christian Europeans represent the third and final group to be given the Americas as a promised land, with Mormons as the purest and most enlightened of all since only they know the true history of the continent and worship in the ways preserved in Moroni's book. Joseph Smith said he dug up the book, breastplate and stones under the guidance of the now-angelic Moroni in the early 19th century, but the angel took the artifacts to heaven once the Book of Mormon (Moroni's father, the last high priest of his people) was fully translated into English.

E: also the followers of Lehi were the first Christians because he received prophetic visions of Jesus and the crucifixion six centuries before they happened.
E2: Those Scots economic philosphers sure did get around didn't they?

I know this is from a couple pages ago and kind of off-topic, but... Joseph Smith was essentially a 19th century L. Ron Hubbard, then?

# ? Sep 23, 2014 03:27

Anubis: Oct 9, 2003; It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.; Fun Shoe

The Rokstar posted:

I know this is from a couple pages ago and kind of off-topic, but... Joseph Smith was essentially a 19th century L. Ron Hubbard, then?

Yes, he was even arrested and convicted of fraud which is one of the reasons he moved around so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_and_the_criminal_justice_system

Anubis fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Sep 23, 2014

# ? Sep 23, 2014 03:37

MattD1zzl3: Oct 26, 2007; Can't post for 4 years!

I found this post in response to a science article on the New Horizons mission to pluto, and thought it was freepy-enough to share.

quote:

Remember when they tried to tell us that Pluto is not a planet. And then they said mars does not have frozen water on it and that it's north and south poles are frozen carbon they still say these things to us but not as much as they use to. Next they will say 2+2=5. Wake up sheeple use your brains. Believe me the USA has better pictures of Pluto they just don't want us seeing them. They even sent robots to Pluto years ago I believe in the 1970s. You can try to look it up online but you won't find it they took it all off the internet. Now I know there is going to be some wise guy on here that will say that I'm lying because we don't have the technology to travel to Pluto and that it would take a lot of fuel and that even it we had the fuel it would take a long time to reach Pluto at the speed our ships are going now. Here is my answer to that question we flown our ships to Jupiter and used Jupiter gravity to catapult from Jupiter to Pluto at great speed and so there for we did not need much fuel or a faster ship.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 04:28

GhostofJohnMuir: Aug 14, 2014; anime is not good

That's less freepy and more straight out schizophrenia.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 04:37

kik2dagroin: Mar 23, 2007; Use the anger. Use it.

Okay, Bloomberg is a big fat socialist RINO. What is Bloomberg Media?
You know.... those LIEberals aren't so bad when they're paying you

HiTech RedNeck posted:

Well, the HiTech RedNeck is looking for a job... AGAIN. This job hopping is getting old, but the boss of the group, at a major freight railroad, for which I'm a contractor has an integrity problem, to put it delicately. For some reason, I don't get along very well with liars and phonies.

Well, I refreshed my resumes on Dice and Monster this past weekend and crossed my fingers. Well this morning what do I behold, but someone wants to know if I am interested in working for a company that turns out to be BLOOMBERG MEDIA.

They are quoting a super deluxe benefits package and money they are saying is in the mid to high six figures.

I've come across Bloomberg from time to time but there wasn't a match. Now they want a C++ guru, and I can say my experience with C++ goes back almost to when it was invented.

Well... okay we agree on who Bloomberg is. But what about his flagship media company. I haven't seen many particularized complaints about it here, which strikes me as odd since the alphabet agencies get excoriated regularly. I don't know what they are doing with all this C++ yet, unless it is to customize news feeds. Would working for them be to be in the belly of the beast? I don't see much news originated from Bloomberg, but they gather news stories (whether true or false) quite well.

quote:

To: HiTech RedNeck
Bloomberg�s been one of the biggest portals for business news forever. Looks like Bloomberg Media does the same for news from online media and social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, etc.) My guess is the former Mayor doesn�t have much to do with it beyond the name. Sounds like a great opportunity!

2 posted on 9/22/2014 7:40:17 PM by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I would love to work for an unabashedly conservative company. Unfortunately I�ve never been in the right place at the right time to make that particular connection. Sometimes I�ve to remind myself that �It�s a paycheck� and be thankful for a job.

Like when I worked at MSNBC. You wanna talk about the belly of the beast?! There, you could tell the conservatives because they were the ones than never talked politics. There was a sports editor and the senior business editor, and a few more but not very many.

3 posted on 9/22/2014 7:48:07 PM by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Wingy
P.S. If you DO get the job, and it pays �in the mid to high six figures�, I would expect FreepaThons to get much shorter!

5 posted on 9/22/2014 7:56:44 PM by Wingy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Communist - Bloomberg media is communist.

6 posted on 9/22/2014 8:09:52 PM by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru
I sort of get the idea that these folks are aggregating business intelligence for those who will pay beaucoup $$ to see it first.

There might be some bounds on how that could be used in market trading, due to rules on trading based on nonpublic information, but also just plain business decisions could depend upon it too.

If so, it would be uber-capitalist. I�d be tickled to be part of a tycoon tax, so to speak, as long as that was voluntary on the part of the tycoons.

9 posted on 9/22/2014 8:40:27 PM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Sounds like he'll be indicted within a month on insider trading charges

quote:

To: HiTech RedNeck
Suppose that happened and HiTech RedNeck was the chief benefactor of FR.
As a practical matter, I don't think JimRob would let you fund FR totally. He says as much on nearly every fundraising thread he writes.

That aside, I spend an awful lot of time on FR, and it gets annoying how long it takes to get to goal. While I was trying to be funny, we can always use more company in the 300 Club.

11 posted on 9/22/2014 8:49:39 PM by Wingy
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Kind of cute some of them think that a freeper will just hand JR over 6 figures every year just to post on a website still stuck in the 1990s :allears:

# ? Sep 23, 2014 05:15

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

Unsurprisingly, their beliefs go right out the window when money is involved.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 06:11

kik2dagroin: Mar 23, 2007; Use the anger. Use it.

Well poo poo, looks like we're conducting bombing operations in Syria now against ISIS. Freep is naturally very displeased
Breaking: Tomahawks and Airstrikes Against Syria Commence

quote:

To: Enlightened1
Let�s just hope this does not lead to a world war with Russia and China.
That is the intent.

Obama is false flag wagging the dog.

He needs American anger at an outside "enemy".

78 posted on 9/22/2014 6:50:22 PM by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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There is no :ironicat:

big enough

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To: Enlightened1
I doubt many of these planes are from the Arab countries, this is cover for Obola.

NOTE: the absence of Egypt

91 posted on 9/22/2014 6:54:37 PM by Viennacon
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Sometimes I wonder if manc just reads whatever the talking heads on :foxnews:

are saying, or if he bothers to read what he posted a few minutes ago

quote:

To: Viennacon
can�t stand King, he supported terrorism , and then pretends he;s against other kinds of terrorism, and now tell us to support this.

What exactly are we bombing anyway?

Is this Assad�s men or all of ISIS?

That�s the problem with the GOP, they just go along and trust instead of questioning .

How many planes form these 5 countries, what one each and one bomb.

87 posted on 9/22/2014 6:53:03 PM by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Viennacon
How pathetic is the media that they are cheerleading this and now even questioning how many planes and bombs are the other countries using.

Megyn Kelly has not asked one question yet, she has gone back to her cheerleading days

102 posted on 9/22/2014 6:57:36 PM by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
The fact that Egypt has zero involvement here tells me its BOGUS. This is a red herring to prevent Obola�s sinking poll numbers. A couple of bombs that will �accidentally� hit Assad�s forces. McCain and Linda are probably watching this in bed together!

107 posted on 9/22/2014 6:59:32 PM by Viennacon
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To: markomalley
I remember when something like this used to be really big news to me. I�d immediately run and turn on the TV and find out what�s going on, then call people who might be equally interested to see if they had heard about it.

We�ve been dropping bombs and launching missiles at so many people and places for so many years, I don�t even keep track of it anymore.

Wake me when someone sees a bright flash, followed by a big mushroom cloud in the sky somewhere.....

112 posted on 9/22/2014 7:01:52 PM by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: George from New England
> ISIS is more likely in sleeper cells in the USA right now, pray this action over there tonight, doesn�t wake the sleeper cells here tomorrow.

The MB has been here for years. You can find many of their sleepers in gas stations and convenience stores everywhere...I�m talking about their ground forces gathering en masse

169 posted on 9/22/2014 7:50:31 PM by jsanders2001
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To: markomalley
As soon as this is over we�ll be sending them cargo aircraft full of food and pallets of freshly printed cash with promises to rebuild their country.

Obama will declare victory and they�ll hold a coronation of Obama on the White House lawn. Nutcakes will be flying over the fences by then, just to touch Obama as he�s declared ruler of the universe.

Or maybe the Russians will give all the Muslims who�ve been imported into the U.S., a nice nuke to set off. Freedom, elections and travel will be halted for our own safety.

It�s a win win either way for Obama.

181 posted on 9/22/2014 8:03:59 PM by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: markomalley
What can I say? I don�t have any trust or faith in Obama/Kerry/Hagel to devise a campaign for victory. I don�t have any trust or faith in the American public to have the backbone to withstand the kind of protracted and/or hellacious campaign necessary to truly win. And I don�t really have the same confidence in the military I once did, with all the degenerate faggotization and social-engineering imposed by the military leadership.

Furthermore, all this just seems so pointless, with our wide-open borders, ready to welcome each and every terrorist and miscreant. A war against ISIS to �protect� us, when we are sitting here with our backdoor wide open? It�s just madness. America as a whole just seems stark-raving mad these days.

205 posted on 9/22/2014 9:55:51 PM by greene66
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 06:43

Ninjasaurus: Feb 11, 2014; This is indeed a disturbing universe.

quote:

To: markomalley
What can I say? I don�t have any trust or faith in Obama/Kerry/Hagel to devise a campaign for victory. I don�t have any trust or faith in the American public to have the backbone to withstand the kind of protracted and/or hellacious campaign necessary to truly win. And I don�t really have the same confidence in the military I once did, with all the degenerate faggotization and social-engineering imposed by the military leadership.

Furthermore, all this just seems so pointless, with our wide-open borders, ready to welcome each and every terrorist and miscreant. A war against ISIS to �protect� us, when we are sitting here with our backdoor wide open? It�s just madness. America as a whole just seems stark-raving mad these days.

205 posted on 9/22/2014 9:55:51 PM by greene66

This guy hates everything about America, distrusts and is fearful of the entire system, but will never move to another country.

"degenerate faggotization" is a new one.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 07:08

GhostofJohnMuir: Aug 14, 2014; anime is not good

He actually just mis-typed, he's really complaining about the poor quality phagocytosis and is mixing up his Greek and Latin suffixes.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 07:55

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

DemeaninDemon posted:

Sad part is it's not loving confusing at all. However it's just so prevalent a lie that it's become truth to a lot of people.

I know a guy who works for a company that made him throw out some perfectly good inventory because they said they "made too much profit this year" and had to show losses to "get back in the right tax bracket". I told him to find a new job.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 14:10

Badera: Jan 30, 2012; Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

quote:

To: Viennacon
How pathetic is the media that they are cheerleading this and now even questioning how many planes and bombs are the other countries using.

Megyn Kelly has not asked one question yet, she has gone back to her cheerleading days

102 posted on 9/22/2014 6:57:36 PM by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 16:00

OAquinas: Jan 27, 2008; Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

MattD1zzl3 posted:

I found this post in response to a science article on the New Horizons mission to pluto, and thought it was freepy-enough to share.

Even if they did that, the velocity that a jupiter-assist would give a craft to get to pluto can't be cancelled by pluto short of lithobraking on it. Any "robot" sent there would just be sailing past. Admittedly, that would be more than sufficient to snap a few photos, but still. Plus, what are we expected to gain from that?

# ? Sep 23, 2014 16:01

Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

That's less freepy and more straight out schizophrenia.

I honestly wonder if there are people who believe we removed Pluto. Like, you guys know it's still there, right?

# ? Sep 23, 2014 16:25

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Jurgan posted:

I honestly wonder if there are people who believe we removed Pluto. Like, you guys know it's still there, right?

Science is a strict system of beliefs that cannot change, adapt, or become more-consistent.

Now let me tell you about needles and camels.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 16:28

Lord Hydronium: Sep 25, 2007; Non, je ne regrette rien

Jurgan posted:

I honestly wonder if there are people who believe we removed Pluto. Like, you guys know it's still there, right?

What do you think the real mission of New Horizons is? :tinfoil:

# ? Sep 23, 2014 16:56

kik2dagroin: Mar 23, 2007; Use the anger. Use it.

Biden: The Tea Party Is Not Right or Left, They Just Hate Government (Yes, Joe nailed it!)

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To: bestintxas
No, Joe - it�s just YOU we hate....

3 posted on 9/23/2014 6:37:06 AM by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Freepers: it�s just YOU we hate

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To: bestintxas
which he concluded means, "You cannot sustain a democracy without arriving at a consensus."
We are a REPUBLIC Joe, not a democracy. Get someone who can read to read the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag to you.

5 posted on 9/23/2014 6:38:14 AM by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Psalm 73
We don�t hate government. We hate tyrants who run our government corruptly to remove the freedoms our founding fathers fought so hard for and one that goes against the will of the people using the MSM to spread propaganda and distort facts to make us believe that more people are on board with their programs than there really are. One that inoctrinates our own children to hate us and train them up in foreign ideologies to assist our enemies in overthrowing our nation.

Context means everything.

8 posted on 9/23/2014 6:44:00 AM by jsanders2001
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To: bestintxas
Limited gvernment, Joe.
Limited. As the Founding Fathers intended.

16 posted on 9/23/2014 6:53:36 AM by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Biggirl
> Monday in an interview with The New York Times� First Draft, Vice President Joe Biden said the Tea Party is to blame for Washington D.C. gridlock because their anti-government views stops lawmakers from �arriving at a consensus.�

Lay money on it tharpt he is referring to amnesty. Yeah Joe I really don�t feel like being invaded by a people I�m forced to pay higher taxes on to give them the things I can�t have because of your stupid economic policies� effects. I also don�t want to be overcrowded and not be able to have access to some of the governmen�t�s programs when I�ve been here all my life and paid taxes for decades especilly for those who haven�t paid a dime. And especially because I�m not happy because you�re bankrupting our system while using them as a political to ensure that pople of your kind stay in office and Cloward Pivening us at the same time. Don�t think they contribute to bankrupting government? I can give you a list of many municipalities in California that can set you straight...

18 posted on 9/23/2014 6:54:43 AM by jsanders2001
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To: bestintxas
What made the US government so corrupt nowadays is the enormous increase in its powers, primarily with the passing of the 16th Amendment in 1913 to legalize income taxes on the Federal level and the enormous increase in economic control during the 1930's under the New Deal.
The easiest one to fix is a drastic simplification of our tax code. I would prefer a quick transition to the flat tax that Steve Forbes proposed in 1996, then 3-4 years down the road phase out the income tax in favor of FairTax. Just this change would be the most liberating thing to happen to the USA since the American Revolution.

23 posted on 9/23/2014 7:15:36 AM by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Carl Vehse
No diminished capacity defense. I don�t care if Biden is an idiot. He�s a Traitor first, last and always, and deserves the Traitors fate.

30 posted on 9/23/2014 7:58:41 AM by onedoug
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:00

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

quote:

NOTE: the absence of Egypt

I want to work this into all my posts now.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:02

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Biden must read this thread. Why else would he (safely) throw rocks at the hornet's nest?

Everyone say hi to him. Hi Diamond Joe!!

# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:12

Ninjasaurus: Feb 11, 2014; This is indeed a disturbing universe.

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To: Psalm 73
We don�t hate government. We hate tyrants who run our government corruptly to remove the freedoms our founding fathers fought so hard for and one that goes against the will of the people using the MSM to spread propaganda and distort facts to make us believe that more people are on board with their programs than there really are. One that inoctrinates our own children to hate us and train them up in foreign ideologies to assist our enemies in overthrowing our nation.

Context means everything.

8 posted on 9/23/2014 6:44:00 AM by jsanders2001

ahahahahahahahaha Freepers live absolutely miserable existences with no one to pass on their legacy of pure unbridled hatred to

# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:16

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Ninjasaurus posted:

ahahahahahahahaha Freepers live absolutely miserable existences with no one to pass on their legacy of pure unbridled hatred to

And they wonder why their kids don't call anymore. :allears:

# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:20

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Icon Of Sin posted:

And they wonder why their kids don't call anymore.

As we get closer to Thanksgiving, we should get our annual crop of "my goddamn liberal kids never call/don't want me to come for dinner!" posts.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:51

isildur: May 31, 2000; BattleDroids: Flashpoint OH NO! Dekker! IS DOWN! THIS IS Glitch! Taking Command! THIS IS Glich! Taking command! OH NO! Glitch! IS DOWN! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! OH NO! Medusa IS DOWN!

Soon to be part of the Battletech Universe canon.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

As we get closer to Thanksgiving, we should get our annual crop of "my goddamn liberal kids never call/don't want me to come for dinner!" posts.

Always framed as 'I cut those LIEberal jerks out of my life and I feel great!'

# ? Sep 23, 2014 18:44

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

DemeaninDemon posted:

Science is a strict system of beliefs that cannot change, adapt, or become more-consistent.

Now let me tell you about needles and camels.

I adhere to a strict system of beliefs that cannot change, adapt, or become more-consistent.

Therefore all other belief systems are like this too.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 19:03

Swan Oat: Oct 9, 2012; I was selected for my skill.

Context means everything.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 19:14

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 15:12

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Elephant Ambush posted:

I adhere to a strict system of beliefs that cannot change, adapt, or become more-consistent.

Therefore all other belief systems are like this too.

Go check out the spine twisting of Prosperity Gospel.

# ? Sep 23, 2014 19:35

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