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Bouchacha posted:This thread made it into the big leagues: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3667112 Ahahahaha JackMackerel you cowardly baby.
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What's bad about trick jumping and special moves? You know the whole finger-puzzles argument is bullshit, like you aren't not good at fighting games because you can't spam special moves with your sausage fingers.
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Sep 24, 2014 07:21
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Get Keits on the phone! Come to think of it, whatever happened to Shootmania?
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Sep 24, 2014 07:31
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Get Keits on the phone! dead on arival
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Sep 24, 2014 07:33
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Roobanguy posted:dead on arival Probably because nobody wants to play an FPS where all of your "guns" come from some kind of dopey wristband. I need the rotating barrels and tracer rounds of a minigun, or the satisfying action of racking a shotgun, etc. That game wasn't worthy of the title "Shootmania", and I don't give a poo poo what sort of in-game reasons they had for the decision.
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Sep 24, 2014 08:00
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Also, it was tethered to the abysmal "ManiaPlanet" service.
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Sep 24, 2014 08:02
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Nadeo's games also barely exist to anyone outside of Europe, and I was under the impression that they just play QuakeWorld all day.
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Sep 24, 2014 08:28
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If you have Duke 3D Megaton Edition on Steam, the developer is running a public beta right now that adds gamepad support and moves from SDL1 to 2.
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Sep 24, 2014 10:41
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Probably because nobody wants to play an FPS where all of your "guns" come from some kind of dopey wristband. I need the rotating barrels and tracer rounds of a minigun, or the satisfying action of racking a shotgun, etc. That game wasn't worthy of the title "Shootmania", and I don't give a poo poo what sort of in-game reasons they had for the decision. This is exactly why I couldn't get into Hard Reset. That horrid weapon design and most of the trash enemies being shorter than waist height meant combat was no fun at all.
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Sep 24, 2014 11:29
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The Kins posted:If you have Duke 3D Megaton Edition on Steam, the developer is running a public beta right now that adds gamepad support and moves from SDL1 to 2. Wish they would add some sort of Duke3D TC ease-of-use function. Trying to run single-player TCs in the Megaton Edition is a pain.
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Sep 24, 2014 12:39
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The Kins posted:If you have Duke 3D Megaton Edition on Steam, the developer is running a public beta right now that adds gamepad support and moves from SDL1 to 2. Oh man... Also we have fixed Overlay issues on OSX/Linux.  I'm having an issue (OS X 10.9.1) where sometimes, the actual game menu disappears. When I alt-tab out and back in again, it seems to work, but most submenus still fail to render in the middle of gameplay (in other words, I can pick the episode and difficulty before playing just fine, but something like the save/load menu is usually invisible when I'm paused and trying to access it). I just get the revolving logo next to whatever option I'm on.
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Sep 24, 2014 13:25
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So I watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIGZAgEeQE And I wondered. Can you feed SLIGE or OBLIGE "seed" maps to work from? If so, what terrors would result if you gave them wow.wad?
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Sep 24, 2014 13:52
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Speaking of Duke Nukem, the main dev behind EDuke32 has managed to get a hold of of the rights for all commercial releases of DN3D. He'll be releasing the PSX-exclusive DN3D maps and content with the official Android version of EDuke32. He'll also see if he can get the PSX content on Megaton as well. Regardless, the unofficial port of the PSX-content to the PC made by users like Fox will be still be released. He's also been hinting that DN64's content will come with the Android version of EDuke32 as well.
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Sep 24, 2014 13:54
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closeted republican posted:Speaking of Duke Nukem, the main dev behind EDuke32 has managed to get a hold of of the rights for all commercial releases of DN3D. He'll be releasing the PSX-exclusive DN3D maps and content with the official Android version of EDuke32. He'll also see if he can get the PSX content on Megaton as well. Regardless, the unofficial port of the PSX-content to the PC made by users like Fox will be still be released.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:02
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Zaphod42 posted:Its strange, but I absolutely hate the Q3 grenade launcher and refuse to use it, but I love lobbing the secondary attack of the flak cannon into people's faces for the perfect one-hit kill. It's because the Q3 GL is tricky to use and takes practice/experience to be effective with and the Flak Cannon secondary isn't and doesn't.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:08
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I don't remember much, but I unironically loved DN64. Fond memories.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:18
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I don't remember much, but I unironically loved DN64. Fond memories. I played through the port a few months ago and it's a pretty fun twist on DN3D. Most of the city maps have enough changes to keep you on your toes, and the different arsenal changes the gameplay just enough to make it feel fresh.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:26
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closeted republican posted:I played through the port a few months ago and it's a pretty fun twist on DN3D. Most of the city maps have enough changes to keep you on your toes, and the different arsenal changes the gameplay just enough to make it feel fresh. Isn't there a wild west level, or am I thinking of another Duke game on the N64?
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Sep 24, 2014 14:37
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Isn't there a wild west level, or am I thinking of another Duke game on the N64? That was Time to Kill, which was on PS1, I think. e: No you're right, Zero Hour had time travel too. 
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Sep 24, 2014 14:41
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Bouchacha posted:Someone is porting System Shock into the DarkPlaces Quake engine. Apparently set to release on December 23rd. I refuse to get excited about this until it's actually released and playable. Don't get me wrong, SS1 in DarkPlaces would be pretty awesome, but I thought the same thing about SS1 in TSSHP, SS1 in Dark, SS1 in Unreal, SS1 in Goldsrc, SS1 in Doom 3, and SS1 in Source. And every single one of those projects is dead and buried now -- either because they did the easy parts (terrain, sprites, sounds) and then got bogged down and gave up on the hard parts (AI, music, level triggers), or because they were a bit too high-profile and got C&D'd into oblivion by EA before even getting that far.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:43
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RyokoTK posted:Zero Hour THAT'S it. Played it to death. Had a blast, can't remember if it's legit good or not.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:45
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I used to totally absolutely hate the terrible mouse in menus option for GZDoom, it was the most buggy twitchy pain in the rear end with how it was impossible to use the keyboard in menus while it was turned on. It turns out there's an option to make the mouse work like literally any other game in menus though, you have to turn on touchscreen-like in the mouse option settings. I don't remember seeing that option the last time I looked, but it's perfect and should be the default.
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Sep 24, 2014 15:30
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An Enormous Boner posted:It's because the Q3 GL is tricky to use and takes practice/experience to be effective with and the Flak Cannon secondary isn't and doesn't. They both fire in an arc though, so what's the key difference? Is the grenade more unpredictable, more random in its direction or length of bounce? Flak Cannon secondary is pretty reliable in its arc if I remember, so that's probably it. Also one-shot kill, I don't think a direct grenade to the face hit that hard.
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Sep 24, 2014 17:16
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The Q3 GL is a lot weaker, bounces instead of shooting shrapnel, and has a shorter arc (excluding UT3/Unreal 1.) The Unreal one lets you still hurt people if you miss with the grenade, and combined with the bounciness of the primary fire makes the flak cannon at the same time easier to use and yet still a really versatile corner/escape gun.
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Sep 24, 2014 17:21
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Elliotw2 posted:The Q3 GL is a lot weaker, bounces instead of shooting shrapnel, and has a shorter arc (excluding UT3/Unreal 1.) The Unreal one lets you still hurt people if you miss with the grenade, and combined with the bounciness of the primary fire makes the flak cannon at the same time easier to use and yet still a really versatile corner/escape gun. Thing is when I use flak cannon, I never really end up using primary, and I never really miss with the secondary. I can consistently nail people right in the head with it, but with the grenade launcher I'm absolute garbage. So that's nothing to do with shrapnel or primary fire, its something to do with how the bounce works. Its weaker and has a shorter arc, is the point, so its not a rocket substitute in Q3 like it is in UT. Although part of it was that the grenade just always felt bad, so I never practiced it, so I never got better with it. But that's kinda the point. The flak bounce just feels better, but as was said the grenade is kinda more defensive than offensive. Which is why I don't like it  ( I know, I'm bad)
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Sep 24, 2014 17:29
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Amethyst posted:"Skills that fundamentally don't matter to the gameplay"? What the hell does that even mean? This attitude amounts to nothing more than a generalised hostility against competitive game design. Except no. The actual skills being tested are positioning and area control, the rest of the game should exist to serve that, not the other way around.
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Sep 24, 2014 18:26
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The actual skills being tested lol. You're repeating the old "my strategy is supreme if it wasn't for those fingerpuzzles" argument. Timing and execution is important. There isn't a fighting game you can't learn the inputs to in a week of playing, the hard part of execution is things like buffering, negative edging, charge partitioning ect that would be completely removed if inputs were simplified even more than they are now. If you have less inputs, you have less moves and less strategies to employ. This is why many of the earliest fighting games are solved problems at this point. You don't like fighting games and don't play them. Cool poo poo, not sure why the entire genre needs to lose complexity until you can be good at them.
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Sep 24, 2014 18:54
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Why are Terry traps a thing? Is the crossover between Doom modders and 4chan users that big?
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Sep 24, 2014 19:04
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Arivia posted:Is the crossover between Doom modders and 4chan users that big?
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Sep 24, 2014 19:28
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Terry stuff is just some kind of joke thing but I'm pretty sure the bulk of them are just Terry under different aliases.
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closeted republican posted:Speaking of Duke Nukem, the main dev behind EDuke32 has managed to get a hold of of the rights for all commercial releases of DN3D. He'll be releasing the PSX-exclusive DN3D maps and content with the official Android version of EDuke32. He'll also see if he can get the PSX content on Megaton as well. Regardless, the unofficial port of the PSX-content to the PC made by users like Fox will be still be released. I mean, Urea 51 isn't really exciting, but c'mon, Death Tank. Komoxdos posted:I used to totally absolutely hate the terrible mouse in menus option for GZDoom, it was the most buggy twitchy pain in the rear end with how it was impossible to use the keyboard in menus while it was turned on. It turns out there's an option to make the mouse work like literally any other game in menus though, you have to turn on touchscreen-like in the mouse option settings. I don't remember seeing that option the last time I looked, but it's perfect and should be the default.
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Sep 24, 2014 20:04
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Shadow Hog posted:And yet no word of the Saturn version's content.
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Sep 24, 2014 20:07
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When's the next reelism version with Powerslave poo poo coming out
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I knew it was using the SlaveDriver format, it's just, well,  Although I really wish somebody knew how the SlaveDriver map format was laid out so somebody could port Powerslave to the PC. Not the Build Engine version that already exists on PC, I mean proper, vaguely-Metroid-esque Powerslave. (Also, the tree-tops bonus level in Quake would be nice.)
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Sep 24, 2014 21:04
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The Kins posted:Pretty sure GMOTA and some other quality mods have gestated over there before messily birthing into the wider community, so I guess you'd be surprised. Terminus also posts there more often than he does here, usually with regards to Demonsteele, and Sgt. Mark pops up and causes shitstorms of drama like nerd fighting over COD and movement does here. I wonder if someone converted the third-person Duke Nukem shooters to Eduke at any point.
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Quake 3 for Dreamcast is the ideal version of Quake 3.Arivia posted:So I watched this: Currently, OBLIGE et al make sure to check for and fix any of the common map errors that cause rendering problems like that. You'd need to find that stuff in the code and disable it for that.
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Sep 24, 2014 22:54
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JackMackerel posted:Terminus also posts there more often than he does here, usually with regards to Demonsteele, and Sgt. Mark pops up and causes shitstorms of drama like nerd fighting over COD and movement does here. You went crying to the mods because people were having a discussion about early FPS games in the early FPS megathread Keiya posted:Except no. The actual skills being tested are positioning and area control, the rest of the game should exist to serve that, not the other way around. In fact, the whole movement system should be abstracted into an RTS style point and click interface. Amethyst fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Sep 25, 2014 |
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Amethyst posted:You went crying to the mods because people were having a discussion about early FPS games in the early FPS megathread Nintendo Kid posted:Quake 3 for Dreamcast is the ideal version of Quake 3. Isn't the PS2 version a port of the DC version, too?
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Sep 25, 2014 00:21
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Of course trickjumping is somehow an inalienable and essential part of arena shooter "competitive play" when one of the most incredibly successful games in the entire genre (UT99) had pretty much none of it except for impact/rocket jumping (which last I checked nobody here has any problem with), the progenitor of the series (Doom) had movement glitches that were only useful in very limited circumstances and didn't involve jumping at all, and John Carmack himself had openly considered patching it out of Quake Live before he quit Id. Clearly we must save the arena shooter from degenerate casual games like Unreal Tournament and Doom II. And on that note, is Duke Nukem Megaton multiplayer any good? Does anyone play it?
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Nintendo Kid posted:Quake 3 for Dreamcast is the ideal version of Quake 3. This only applies if you have claws instead of hands.
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