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Sep 29, 2014 05:11
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That Legacy final was so fun to watch. Khans commons and uncommons completely wrecking Legacy is just a beauty to watch. Bonus that the deck is actually pretty reasonable price-wise to build for a Legacy deck. I expect a lot of people to build it moving forward.
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Sep 29, 2014 05:48
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:Soon to be known as Izzet Delver based on SCG moving over to "Shardless Sultai" and "Sultai Delver". I don't know why that's an issue but okay.
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Sep 29, 2014 06:12
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AgentSythe posted:img-timeline.jpg This is late, but I ended at 8-2 with a mardu deck. Played what is arguably my worst matchup all day, monsters 7 of my 10 matches. I seen a large variety of monster builds. naya, selsesnya, mono green, azban, golgari, gruul. One of my matches was against esper control but I couldn't tell you what he did because I killed him on turns 5 and 4 respectively each game while wrecking his hand of any interaction he could possibly have. Another was against a guy playing azban 12 wrath walkers dot dec, that wasn't pretty for me. I did get him one game but it was pre board and I was on the play, and had a very good draw. The final deck was mono black aggro. It basically was a bunch of 1 drops and cane at you hard and quick, using its' own life total to hedge for cheap removal and threats. My review of the format, I would say this is a format where it's all about attacking past one another, rarely all night did I see blocks that weren't in desperation to prevent lethal, and even then just enough to shut down lethal. Control isn't really a thing, any removal that does less than 4 is almost outright awful unless it was drown in sorrow or anger of the gods. Stormbreath dragon is still really good (especially with a lot of the other flyers and good removal being white) and sarkhan is not a replacement and underperformed every time I seen someone play it, very much a win-more type card that more often than not was used as a 5 mana sorcery speed stoke the flames. Jeskai combo is fairly real, in both standard and modern. I feel like the standard list could be tuned to be more optimal, but the only three lists (that I knew about) ran in the building in standard made top 16, top 32, and the other had a winning record too. There were almost no other mardu lists either, and I didn't see a single mono red list.
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Sep 29, 2014 06:16
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So how expensive is it in MODO to draft really old as sets and is there ANY possibility that Wizards will start the 'Get them all digitally and we will give them to you physically' deal?
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Sep 29, 2014 07:38
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Herr Tog posted:So how expensive is it in MODO to draft really old as sets and is there ANY possibility that Wizards will start the 'Get them all digitally and we will give them to you physically' deal? Nah, a lot of those sets are out of print. They're not going to fire up the presses to print out a playset of Tempest in hopes that someone will redeem it. However, I do believe that, for a nominal fee, they will let you redeem a set that's currently in print, if you collect each card on MODO (non-foil, and foil playsets, respectively). Previous sets are usually only available to draft as a special event and for a limited time. MODO is weird like that.
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Sep 29, 2014 07:45
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Herr Tog posted:So how expensive is it in MODO to draft really old as sets and is there ANY possibility that Wizards will start the 'Get them all digitally and we will give them to you physically' deal?
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Nah, a lot of those sets are out of print. They're not going to fire up the presses to print out a playset of Tempest in hopes that someone will redeem it. Og I ment the print part in regards to more modern or recent sets. Sorry about that And I see. gently caress. I might just buy a real box of Tempest then instead. neetengie posted:Flashback drafts are limited for a week or two I think, last week was Tempest and this week is Innistrad I think. I may be wrong but Flashback drafts usually come alongside Cube I think, which is also limited times. Well gently caress if it is I love Innistrad.
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Sep 29, 2014 08:04
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qbert posted:That Legacy final was so fun to watch. Khans commons and uncommons completely wrecking Legacy is just a beauty to watch. drat I just looked it up and yeah it's pretty cheap overall. Fetches are currently in print, so the actually expensive cards are just the Forces, maybe the Forked Bolts too? Definitely cheap for a deck that just won a Legacy Open.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:02
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Serperoth posted:drat I just looked it up and yeah it's pretty cheap overall. Fetches are currently in print, so the actually expensive cards are just the Forces, maybe the Forked Bolts too? Definitely cheap for a deck that just won a Legacy Open. Volcanic Island, Scalding Tarn, and Force of Will. Everything else in the deck could probably be bought for $150. Of course the duals are the true expense of the deck, but that's true of most legacy decks, and this one only plays 4.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:33
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Zorak posted:Mostly unrelated to anything going on, but I was just thinking back to how when I first started playing ~ 2 years ago, people kept going on about how Red was the worst and Wizards just wouldn't let red decks ever be good or do anything interesting. Red's been pretty sweet as of late. Maro has explicitly said that several of the core changes to Red have come out of conversations on his blog on the one-dimensional nature of the color. Act on Impulse - style "draw" being a direct example. So the "going on and on" is helpful sometimes despite being annoying to some.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:50
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qbert posted:Volcanic Island, Scalding Tarn, and Force of Will. Everything else in the deck could probably be bought for $150. Of course the duals are the true expense of the deck, but that's true of most legacy decks, and this one only plays 4. Yeah I forgot about the Volcanics, and grouped Scalding Tarn with the rest of the fetches since it's all but guaranteed it will be reprinted within Tarkir block. But hey, 150 for the rest is pretty good, if you already have a Force or Volcanic around in general.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:59
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They'd better not start calling RUG Delver "Temur Delver". I want to cackle like a middle schooler every time I hear someone say "RUG Delver".
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Sep 29, 2014 13:04
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So should availability bring Sarkhan's price down soon or had I bet take the plunge?
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Sep 29, 2014 13:57
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BizarroAzrael posted:So should availability bring Sarkhan's price down soon or had I bet take the plunge? I'm pretty sure the price will drop a little once people figure out that 4 Sarkhan 0 Stormbreath Dragon isn't the optimal card distribution.
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Sep 29, 2014 14:00
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Herr Tog posted:So how expensive is it in MODO to draft really old as sets and is there ANY possibility that Wizards will start the 'Get them all digitally and we will give them to you physically' deal? You can still redeem Magic Online sets for real cards. I don't know why the OP says it was discontinued. Currently, you can redeem sets from Innistrad and newer. The schedule for when sets are redeemable is here.
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BizarroAzrael posted:So should availability bring Sarkhan's price down soon or had I bet take the plunge? It will come down. We are still in full on hype/brew mode where everyone is trying to find the next "thing" and supply has no where near caught up with demand. Check Elspeth's price curve for more data. http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/21415 TL:DR take your Christmas money and buy Sarkhan for $18 if you can afford to wait. You can see the decline in price began right around/after gameday. I think standard demand peaks at Gameday and troughs at New Years, at least for the fall set. jassi007 fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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Kraus posted:They'd better not start calling RUG Delver "Temur Delver". I want to cackle like a middle schooler every time I hear someone say "RUG Delver". True, but at the same time we'll get Temur->Teemo and have Teemo delver  . I can't wait for the alters! (Teemo is the best FYI)
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Sep 29, 2014 14:49
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Guys i know made top 8 in both Standard and Legacy. Pretty interesting weekend despite my miserable performance in the modern even...
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Herr Tog posted:Og I ment the print part in regards to more modern or recent sets. Sorry about that You can redeem recent sets for $25. I redeemed M15 a week ago.
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Sep 29, 2014 15:21
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So legacy people, explain to me Monastery Swiftspear vs. Goblin Guide. I wasn't sold on Spear because I figured Guide was better. I knew it could grow bigger than 2/2 but I guess I didn't count on four Treasure Cruise actually being practical and giving it enough gas to do more over the course of a game. Does Goblin Guide's trigger tend to get exploited by Brainstorm to get a free extra card? Is it common enough that that's a real factor vs. just average damage per turn?
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Sep 29, 2014 16:37
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Nehru the Damaja posted:So legacy people, explain to me Monastery Swiftspear vs. Goblin Guide. I wasn't sold on Spear because I figured Guide was better. I knew it could grow bigger than 2/2 but I guess I didn't count on four Treasure Cruise actually being practical and giving it enough gas to do more over the course of a game. If you're referring to the Legacy Open winner, it's probably because Delver generally wants non-creature spells, so the average damage goes higher I imagine. Goblin Guide isn't a card really getting played in Delver decks anyway, but Swiftspear has good interaction with Delver's tools in general.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:42
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Nehru the Damaja posted:So legacy people, explain to me Monastery Swiftspear vs. Goblin Guide. I wasn't sold on Spear because I figured Guide was better. I knew it could grow bigger than 2/2 but I guess I didn't count on four Treasure Cruise actually being practical and giving it enough gas to do more over the course of a game. Crossquoting from the Eternal thread. AnacondaHL posted:It wasn't a joke. I Top 64'd (6-3) SCG Edison Legacy Open with a playset, and would have finished higher if I played more land. Here's what I ran:
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Applebees posted:You can still redeem Magic Online sets for real cards. I don't know why the OP says it was discontinued. Currently, you can redeem sets from Innistrad and newer. The schedule for when sets are redeemable is here. Northjayhawk posted:You can redeem recent sets for $25. I redeemed M15 a week ago. Thank you~
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Sep 29, 2014 17:21
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So Monastery Swiftspear got 9th in NJ Standard, 6th in Indy Modern, and 1st in NJ Legacy, all in week one. Pretty good.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:45
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So glad I got Swiftspears for a quarter apiece.
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Kraus posted:So glad I got Swiftspears for a quarter apiece. poo poo, they'll cost me two quarters and a dime now. Seriously though, I'm glad it's not a rare.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:poo poo, they'll cost me two quarters and a dime now. Seriously though, I'm glad it's not a rare. Glad I bought my foil playset before they shot up. Apparently they're sold out at $12 apiece on Star City, and not available at all on TCG player.
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Sep 29, 2014 18:27
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neetengie posted:Dig Through Time is going to be a good contender I think because Card Selection > Random draw 3. Oh yeah, definitely. Brainstorm is far superior to Ancestral Recall. 
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FordCQC posted:Oh yeah, definitely. Brainstorm is far superior to Ancestral Recall. Cost aside, I would rather have Dig Through Time than Ancestral Recall.
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Sep 29, 2014 18:36
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Angry Grimace posted:Cost aside, I would rather have Dig Through Time than Ancestral Recall. wow
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Angry Grimace posted:Cost aside, I would rather have Dig Through Time than Ancestral Recall. I think that comes from being used to the idea that not all of your cards are fantastic. When all of your cards are dope, you just want to draw more of them.
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TheLawinator posted:I think that comes from being used to the idea that not all of your cards are fantastic. When all of your cards are dope, you just want to draw more of them. I don't know about that. In Vintage I'd rather have a Dig Through Time effect because all my cards are good, but only a few of them are Tinker good. I can't comment on Legacy to the same extent, but it seems to me that the best 2 from 7 cards may be better than getting 3 randoms, one of which is likely a land. Of course Treasure Cruise costs less mana, but the instant speed of Dig Through Time is a big deal for some decks.
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Not all fantastic cards are fantastic in all situations. Dig let's you pick what you need at the time.
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Yeah, raw card advantage doesn't depend on your cards being powerful so much as them being interchangeable. It's rare for any given card to be as good as any other given card in a particular situation which is why the idea of 'card advantage' is so much more complicated than just counting pieces of cardboard.
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The only format where Recall is legal has restricted cards. When I say "cost" I'm referring to the casting cost. Rinkles posted:Not all fantastic cards are fantastic in all situations. Dig let's you pick what you need at the time. It's because people legitimately believe card advantage is an actual rule of deck construction as opposed to a generic principle. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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Sep 29, 2014 19:02
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There's a reason Ancestral Memories costs 2UUU and Concentrate only costs 2UU, basically. Dig isn't quite as good as Memories because it doesn't stock the graveyard, but on the other hand it's an instant. There are so many advantages to both cards, it really depends on whether you'd rather cast the sorcery for U or the instant for UU.
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My friends and I whipped up a KTK/KTK/JOU/KTK/JOU draft last night. They played surprisingly well together, especially for sets never meant to be drafted with one another. It was really fun.
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