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8th-snype posted:This guy http://eliotdudik.com/ is cool. I was just listening to an interview with him on the FPP, those 8x10 diptychs are  http://filmphotographyproject.com/category/tags/eliot-dudik
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Spedman posted:I was just listening to an interview with him on the FPP, those 8x10 diptychs are Haha, that's where I heard about him. Just started listening to that podcast. I was actually not expecting the 8x20 shots to be as cool as they are.
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I was only listening to that episode last night and hadn't seen his shots yet, they are very cool, two 8x10 shots is going to be WAY cheaper than shooting an 8x20. It's worth going through the back catalog of the FPP, one of the hosts (Dwayne) was on the first 30 episodes or so and had heaps of experience shooting and selling photo gear, then he was sort of replaced by Mat Morash (the guy interviewing everyone at the photo gathering).
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I find it funny that we would ever describe 2 color 8x10 sheets of film as cheaper than anything. ULF is some kind of crazy next level poo poo.
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The jump in price from 8x10 to ULF is just crazy and to be honest I can't really see the point, very much a case of diminishing returns, but loving cool none the less. And for some LF content, here a video of a guy named Clyde making awesome 40x60 wet prints from 8x10 negs, living the dream: http://youtu.be/RCN_WQeEKnc
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Spedman posted:The jump in price from 8x10 to ULF is just crazy and to be honest I can't really see the point, very much a case of diminishing returns, but loving cool none the less. If I had unlimited money I would buy the 16x20 kit that's been kicking around on sale here locally but it would basically be like me setting $8K on fire.
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Just trying to develop a piece of film that large, cleanly, would be a nightmare. I do have a 25in (635mm) f/10.6 lens kicking around the house, it should cover around 11x14 and I was thinking of converting my dark tent into a ULF camera with it. But I think madness and bankruptcy lie in that direction.
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Spedman posted:The jump in price from 8x10 to ULF is just crazy and to be honest I can't really see the point, very much a case of diminishing returns, but loving cool none the less. He did a talk at our museum a few years ago and he basically owns. Also, please go see his stuff in person if you can. loving giant levels of detail oh god I'm walking into a photograph http://www.annenbergspaceforphotography.org/events/iris-nights/extreme-exposure/67
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Axel Serenity posted:He did a talk at our museum a few years ago and he basically owns. Also, please go see his stuff in person if you can. loving giant levels of detail oh god I'm walking into a photograph He's quite well-known, at least down here in Florida.
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Glen E. Friedman has a new book out. He is pretty famous for his pictures of the early scenes of Skateboarding, Punk and Hip-hop. I got the book in the mail today and I just want to rip out all the pages and post them all over the place. Anyway here are some pictures he took.    Here is his website too http://burningflags.com/
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NinetySevenA posted:Glen E. Friedman has a new book out. He is pretty famous for his pictures of the early scenes of Skateboarding, Punk and Hip-hop. I got the book in the mail today and I just want to rip out all the pages and post them all over the place. Holy poo poo this owns hard enough that I'm about to sell off a bunch of my cameras to buy a super wide angle lens. I'd seen some of Friedman's stuff before, but don't think I ever had a name to put with it. Thanks!
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NinetySevenA posted:Glen E. Friedman has a new book out. He is pretty famous for his pictures of the early scenes of Skateboarding, Punk and Hip-hop. I got the book in the mail today and I just want to rip out all the pages and post them all over the place. Killer. Just got on this myself.
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This (to me) is more geek porn than awesome photos, but a local guy has been taking pictures with wet plate tintype: https://www.flickr.com/photos/phuphuphnik/ He's done a series of shots around here at work, and seeing (relatively) modern tech photographed with vintage photographic technique looks loving awesome.  001 by phuphuphnik, on Flickr  003 by phuphuphnik, on Flickr
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xzzy posted:This (to me) is more geek porn than awesome photos, but a local guy has been taking pictures with wet plate tintype: Nice! Are you at fermilab?
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Yep, it's a fine place to earn a paycheck and be a hobbyist photographer.
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This series is cool http://www.yossimilo.com/artists/andr_bush/
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Chill Callahan posted:This series is cool Also a pro tier URL. Assuming it's a Catch-22 reference, if it's coincidentally some rich fuckers actual name then disregard.
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http://www.beforethey.com/ Great photos of endangered tribespeople all over the world.
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Spedman posted:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/12/science/space/rosetta-philae-comet-landing.html?_r=1 Yeah, this owns. 
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There's more on their flickr page. Just amazing. Comet 67P on 4 November - NAVCAM by europeanspaceagency, on Flickr
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LargeHadron posted:If you are new to photography, I think the best thing you can do is just lurk in these forums for awhile. You'll see the same arguments spurred by posts like yours spring up again and again, and you will be challenged by photography that lacks ostensible prettiness that you're used to seeing in so-called "good photography." The flickr account you posted is fine, but his photos don't seem to venture beyond prettiness. Perhaps you're attracted to the photos more because of the subject matter than the photography...the places he's visited do look very nice, sincerely. I'd like to visit some of those places and see the same sights. ansel autisms posted:
Musket posted:Mods. Rename thread to: Taste Makers Batin' Club. No girls allowed. I loving hate Todd Hido so much but it's totally possible for a girl to 'bate all over his photos. I went to a small Italian café in my town: run by Italians and frequented by Italians it's one of the few places that does ok coffee for a reasonable price. I went there for an afternoon with a book. I said to the waiter I'll come back later if me sitting on my own would take up too much space on a busy afternoon. He asked me if I was in a rush, I said "No" and he said "Ok" that I was to just sit down with my water and they'd take their time over me. I don't know what the name of the dish I had was, some tenderised meat in sauce but I did not like it at all. I was there for over 90 minutes having one dish and two coffees and it was the most enjoyable afternoon I had had in a long time and I hated that I didn't like this lovingly prepared food when they were looking after me so well and letting me escape in one of their four seater tables. That's how I feel about Hido. His photos are evocative. The colours are vibrant where they need to be and the dark browns are lurid in the way they disappear. The lighting is a cross between a Winter Christmas display and a cheap tail-light shining through a coating of mud. I asked in #c what people's opinions on Hido were and I wanted to fall in line with them but I just couldn't. I love everything about the technicality and style of the photos except what he's actually showing. My only experience of America is what's fed to me through the mass media and what I pick up online: with forums and chat rooms. Sure there can be a bit of misery there but mostly I see normal people, with normal people worries and normal people happiness. Hido presents this depraved world of glaring lights, and glaring brown but with no hope: desolation and isolation and all the things wrong with people, suburbia and the landscape (his landscapes are the closest I can get to his photos.) I love Hido's images for what they are but the message I see in them isn't something I want. They're not something I want from life nor something I can identify with. Just like that eminently relaxing meal in the Italian café everything is presented perfectly but I just can't vibe with the substance of what I'm seeing (or eating.) Even reading back on this I can see how someone can get hope and familiarity through Hido's photographs, but ultimately I see a reality of poo poo that people have to climb over. That's a magnificent thing to have captured in an image and I hope that I climbed over that poo poo heap by actually saying Hido's photographs are amazing, but not something I want to see.
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Spedman posted:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/12/science/space/rosetta-philae-comet-landing.html?_r=1 really like this one  Welcome to a comet by europeanspaceagency, on Flickr
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Mrenda posted:My only experience of America is what's fed to me through the mass media and what I pick up online: with forums and chat rooms. Sure there can be a bit of misery there but mostly I see normal people, with normal people worries and normal people happiness. Hido presents this depraved world of glaring lights, and glaring brown but with no hope: desolation and isolation and all the things wrong with people, suburbia and the landscape (his landscapes are the closest I can get to his photos.) I'm really confused, are you saying that because you don't think Hido's work illustrates an accurate depiction of Americana, you don't like it? Do you only like art that shows what you "want from life"? Do you only consume aspirational media?
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Mrenda posted:[...] So, assuming that -- what you're saying is you'd rather have the smooth fake reality of commercial and advertising photography? Cat photos? Flower photos? Photos of beautiful people with a beautiful blurred background. Technical perfection. A world, both seamless and utterly beautiful, and yet ... You know, that this leads to the taking of pictures that seem to be both beautiful but hollow. Those images that seem to draw from advertisements more than the emotional state of being. But this emotional state of being is something, that is of utmost importance. To us as humans, to photography. And yes negative feelings have their place, too. And if Hido evokes those then it means that his art is powerful. Definitely worthy of consideration, worthy to be consumed and reflected upon. There is another choice, of course. A beauty without meaning. A travel poster, a beautiful woman, a happy family, a shiny new car. A house bathed in beautiful afternoon light -- hollowness contained within a frame. Hollowness that resonates our own hollow unfulfilled lives, the ever dangling carrot.
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VomitOnLino posted:First of all, you are aware that the thing photographed is not the representation of that thing, but a representation of an idea? Ceci n'est pas un pipe. etc.. You've pretty much described the problems I have with 500px, all "beautiful" images with no soul.
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Spedman posted:You've pretty much described the problems I have with 500px, all "beautiful" images with no soul. Most communities that revolve around a "like" system eventually end up with those kind of soulless but pretty photos. As for Mrenda, art is democratic - you don't have to like Hido just because other people in #c do. But your dislike of the meaning in his photos is also reflective of yourself.
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VomitOnLino posted:First of all, you are aware that the thing photographed is not the representation of that thing, but a representation of an idea? Ceci n'est pas un pipe. etc.. Yes, I am aware of that. alkanphel posted:As for Mrenda, art is democratic - you don't have to like Hido just because other people in #c do. But your dislike of the meaning in his photos is also reflective of yourself. And I think my dislike of Hido's idea (I did say I think the actual photos are fantastic) is because I don't like his idea. I don't like that he's showing a murky and dark suburbia, with nothing going for it. I think there's a lot more to suburbia and "average America" (or average anywhere) than what Hido shows. quote:So, assuming that -- what you're saying is you'd rather have the smooth fake reality of commercial and advertising photography? Cat photos? Flower photos? Photos of beautiful people with a beautiful blurred background. Technical perfection. A world, both seamless and utterly beautiful, and yet ... I actually think you've missed out on something if you don't think Hido's photos aren't beautiful. He shows something that is ugly in spirit but that is nonetheless a beautiful photograph. I don't know what to say to you if you automatically think that someone who finds Hido's work unpleasant (especially in his focus) is automatically going to like bland cat photos. Your view of people is horrifically constrained if you think the only alternative view for someone who doesn't like Hido's idea is to like empty beauty. quote:You know, that this leads to the taking of pictures that seem to be both beautiful but hollow. Those images that seem to draw from advertisements more than the emotional state of being. But this emotional state of being is something, that is of utmost importance. To us as humans, to photography. And yes negative feelings have their place, too. And if Hido evokes those then it means that his art is powerful. Definitely worthy of consideration, worthy to be consumed and reflected upon. And again you go on about the opposite to Hido, "beautiful but hollow." Your appreciation of him seems to be a reaction to other images and not taking Hido on his own merits. quote:There is another choice, of course. A beauty without meaning. A travel poster, a beautiful woman, a happy family, a shiny new car. A house bathed in beautiful afternoon light -- hollowness contained within a frame. Hollowness that resonates our own hollow unfulfilled lives, the ever dangling carrot. If your alternate view to Hido's images is "A beauty without meaning" then you're not looking very deep. I wonder if Hido could find beauty and meaning (outside the technicality of his photos) despite the anonymity and negativity of what he shoots. Hido has made a very successful artistic and stylistic choice in showing what he does show. But he shows a world without resilience, without hope, with aspiration, and even without freedom. He's done that with purpose. He's done that amazingly well and I appreciate the images at that level. Despite me going to great pains to show that I think Hido is extremely successful in what he does, and to show I appreciate what he has done, you're talking like I want some faux-beauty because I find his theme objectionable. I also think it's one dimensional, and deliberately so. He's absolutely successful in showing what he wants to show. But what he wants to show on a philosophic level doesn't tie in to how I see things. And trying to paint me as someone who only wants pretty sunsets and babies smiling says a lot about you. Edit: 365 Nog Hogger posted:I'm really confused, are you saying that because you don't think Hido's work illustrates an accurate depiction of Americana, you don't like it? Do you only like art that shows what you "want from life"? Do you only consume aspirational media? I think there's a lot of people who would see Hido's work and wouldn't be able to recognise the America they see in it. They might recognise the physical artifice, the landscape, that light and all that but they wouldn't recognise it as an America of themselves. Broadly I think people try, I think they live with hope despite it being knocked out of them repeatedly, I think there's anger and depression but that's not how people want to live. I think Hido represents the reality of those people (including me) during their lows but not how the actually remember things. I don't consume only aspirational media. I think to show everything as aspirational would be unjust. I think showing something without any form of relief, or easing of tension but as relentless is stylistically and artistically absolutely just and sound, but I also think it fails to show any truth. I can disengage with that for Hido's work but ultimately I'm left wanting something more from his stuff. 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quote:Hido presents this depraved world of glaring lights, and glaring brown but with no hope: desolation and isolation and all the things wrong with people, suburbia and the landscape Er, yep, that's why his work is so good. Sorry that the world isn't always perfect meals in cozy italian restaurants in the countryside. Are you saying you don't like art that doesn't reinforce some rosy ideal view of the world?
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deaders posted:Er, yep, that's why his work is so good. Sorry that the world isn't always perfect meals in cozy italian restaurants in the countryside. Are you saying you don't like art that doesn't reinforce some rosy ideal view of the world? You missed my Italian restaurant analogy. Everything about it was perfect, except for the actual meal. And I could tell the food was cooked well, and the ingredients were good, and there was every reason why I should enjoy it, it just wasn't to my tastes. With Hido you're saying the only alternative is the complete opposite. That's a very narrow view of photography. Try and put a bit more thought into what is possible, without dealing in absolutes.
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You missed the meaning of my response to your analogy. And you mistook my question for a statement about how I define photography. Sorry that you don't like Todd Hido.
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deaders posted:Sorry that you don't like Todd Hido. I appreciate Todd Hido for what he does. I think he's fantastic at it, and I'd happily buy his books and see him in a gallery. I just find his works leave me uneasy. And not in a "it's supposed to make you feel uneasy" but in a way that I feel he's missing out on a lot of things. Absolutely his choice, and it's worked for him. It just doesn't work as much for me.
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Fair enough although I would expect that the sense of unease is absolutely deliberate on his part. What makes you think they are not supposed to make you feel uneasy? What do you think of Gregory Crewdson?
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deaders posted:Fair enough although I would expect that the sense of unease is absolutely deliberate on his part. What makes you think they are not supposed to make you feel uneasy? I have no doubt it is his intent to make you feel uneasy. And I think he's very effective at that, which is why on that level it works. It's an entirely personal thing for me, in that I feel his emphasis is so much on the place that there's little dimension given to its societal surrounds, or personal aspects and it makes me feel uneasy that he gets this effect entirely through an artistic endeavour and not from any underlying meaning, apart from maybe horrendous architecture, although I find it present in his portraits as well. His work makes me uneasy, but there's very little of what he has shot that should make me feel uneasy. It's great stylistic photography on his part, and I appreciate that, I don't appreciate the lack of justification from the subject. And part of that comes down to me feeling like an outsider with his stuff. Like it's not up to me to judge the places he photographs. I know his photographs (or anyone else's) can never be seen "truth" but I have no frame of reference into which I can place his photographs. So it makes it hard to fully judge his artistic decisions, although I feel it does give me a different viewpoint in comparison to a lot of Americans who look at his work. If I had more lenses with which to understand the places he photographs, a social understanding from road trips, or talking to people who grew up in those places, or even through local media I imagine I'd be better equipped to deal with what Hido shows. I know photography, and especially art photography has no responsibility to represent truth, I just feel a little uneasy taking his works as my only knowledge of the places. Kind of leading on from that is something I've been thinking about quite a bit lately. I still see all photography as essentially a record of something, via a camera and lens, and with the collaboration of the photographer. Unlike other artistic endeavours photographs aren't solely the artist's creation (except for maybe still lifes.) So I'm trying to figure out what responsibility the photographer has to his subject. quote:What do you think of Gregory Crewdson? I've never (knowingly) seen his stuff. I'll take a look.
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Hido might not want you feeling sorry for him but I don't think it's wrong to feel bad about whatever situation led him to express himself in the way that he does. Life can suck, but I think it's nice to be able to appreciate the poo poo that sucks as a part of the human experience. Ditto for the "pretty", "empty", "hollow" poo poo. For me personally I prefer to enjoy a mix of the two. I like Hido's work, but I don't limit my taste nor my aesthetic preferences to him. I don't think he's someone that you have to subscribe to in order to enjoy. Enjoy his work, then go jerk it to some pics of some cats to cheer you up. That's what I do anyway.
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