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kik2dagroin posted:http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/07/caller_to_host_you_re_no_expert Well, now we know where that "common sense trumps facts" and "my gut tells me one thing but experts say another so they don't know poo poo" stupidity comes from. Yes Rush, there aren't enough ignorant nobodies speaking their mind in this age saturated with social media. Everyone's opinion on every issue is equally as valid and worthy of consideration! I also like how he immediately starts fearmongering again, even before hanging up on the caller. Basically, gently caress anyone who disagrees with me, I know better than them, regardless of how little credentials, training and experience I possess on any number of subjects. It's Republicanism, Libertarianism, Conservatism, and Freeper logic distilled to its purest essence, and it's truly an ugly sight to behold. Ninjasaurus fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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quote:Is Obama an expert in the Constitution 'cause he taught it, ostensibly, in Chicago? And "ostensibly"... holy poo poo.
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kik2dagroin posted:http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/07/caller_to_host_you_re_no_expert Rush is a master of this. If you read the later stuff about Ebola in Spain it basically boils down to him picking out whatever random article he can find that pushes the point of it's Obama's fault and he's not doing anything about it, EU is incompetent...etc. But everything is phrased as: "THEY ARE SAYING IT, not me, I'm just passing on info for you to judge."
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Plinkey posted:But everything is phrased as: "THEY ARE SAYING IT, not me, I'm just passing on info for you to judge." Rush has always been terrible, but this little ploy of his has only gotten worse over the years. Have you seen the movie Casino? In that film, it's stated that the way Joe Pesci's character handled gambling was to collect when he won, and tell the bookies to gently caress off when he lost. That's Rush's entire shtick. When he repeats something that turns out to have legs (or legs enough for his sycophantic audience), he reminds you six or eight times per show just how right he was. When an issue fizzles, you either never hear about it, again, or it's, "Hey, I never said that."
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Post 9-11 User posted:Has anyone seen Frank Miller comment about ISIS? I went looking and found squat, it seems that his employers have muzzled him since his total meltdown titled, "Holy Terror" was released. I don't think it's coincidence that his personal site, FrankMillerInk, hasn't been updated since 2011: obligatory:
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# ? Oct 8, 2014 14:21 |
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Batman's Batmoustache is loving awesome.
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Just remember the core tenet to right-wing rhetoric in the US is that government is bad and is incapable of doing anything effectively. Thus they have a tendency to get behind concepts that prove their argument. Or as Molly Ivin's once said "Republican's run on the premise that government can't do anything right and once elected proceed to do everything in their power to prove themselves right." So there should be little surprise that they'd be all for horrible ideas like term limits. It's also worth noting that the only reason there are term limits for the President is that the Republicans were mad that FDR thumped them 4 elections in a row and would probably have beat them a 5th time if he hadn't died.
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Skex posted:So there should be little surprise that they'd be all for horrible ideas like term limits. It's also worth noting that the only reason there are term limits for the President is that the Republicans were mad that FDR thumped them 4 elections in a row and would probably have beat them a 5th time if he hadn't died. In spite of his many failings and problems, is there any doubt that Obama would win a third term if he were allowed and got through the primaries? Was there with Clinton?
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robotsinmyhead posted:Batman's Batmoustache is loving awesome. Batmanuel is the best bat-related superhero.
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Orange Devil posted:In spite of his many failings and problems, is there any doubt that Obama would win a third term if he were allowed and got through the primaries? Was there with Clinton? If he wasn't Constitutionally restricted to two terms, Bill Clinton would still be President.
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Orange Devil posted:In spite of his many failings and problems, is there any doubt that Obama would win a third term if he were allowed and got through the primaries? Was there with Clinton? 1) Their agenda has long-since been settled, whatever they've been able to get through Congress has gotten through, and they've spent the last year or two as lame ducks doing nothing, so they haven't been pushing anything controversial or divisive (most Presidents spend years 7 and 8 working on foreign policy), and all the fighting has faded into distant memory, which tends to warm people to them. 2) The opposition lays off of them (because they're old news and lame ducks and about to exit the stage and there's not much point in beating up on them compared to his replacement) and concentrates on whoever their opponent is in the race to replace them. This also tends to make people like the President more. 3) By largely staying out of the fray and doing nothing, they look really appealing compared to all the figures fighting (on either side) to replace him. Two people are tearing each other apart with negative ads and sleazy tricks, and the President is just standing in the Rose Garden, giving sunny speeches and handing out awards. This all leads to an outbreak of the warm fuzzies when a President leaves office after eight years. Reagan got it, Clinton got it - only Bush didn't get it (because of the ongoing Iraq disaster and the October economic implosion). But if Obama (or Reagan, or Clinton, or Bush) had stayed in the ring and fought for a third term, all those sources of warm fuzzies would go away.
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Ninjasaurus posted:If he wasn't Constitutionally restricted to two terms, Bill Clinton would still be President. Only if he stopped 9/11. Letting a terrorist attack of that magnitude happen on American soil would have gotten him impeached (again!) or at least given Republicans the chance to whip up fear, paranoia, and rage against the slacking traitor getting his dick wet while America burned on his watch.
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VitalSigns posted:Only if he stopped 9/11. Letting a terrorist attack of that magnitude happen on American soil would have gotten him impeached (again!) or at least given Republicans the chance to whip up fear, paranoia, and rage against the slacking traitor getting his dick wet while America burned on his watch. The guy had a better chance then Bush though, so it's not impossible.
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Pope Guilty posted:Batmanuel is the best bat-related superhero. Ninjasaurus posted:If he wasn't Constitutionally restricted to two terms, Bill Clinton would still be President. These are both correct. Clinton's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efhzzgyK_D8 B-I-G P-E-N-I-S Fooling around with chicks is what I do best GOP really made 'cause I'm flagrant Had sex in every room here but the basement
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kik2dagroin posted:Rush "Look at all these leftists politicizing the Ebola virus!" *politicizes Ebola virus*
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BiggerBoat posted:"Look at all these leftists politicizing the Ebola virus!" "And GRID still isn't political. Only loony lefties with a quilting obsession care about 'AIDS' because they hate president Reagan and want to tarnish his legacy."
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sweart gliwere posted:"And GRID still isn't political. Only loony lefties with a quilting obsession care about 'AIDS' because they hate president Reagan and want to tarnish his legacy." This is a good point and something I meant to post about. Isn't this whole "OMG! EBOLA!" just another in a long line of poo poo I'm supposed to be terrified about every single day? See also: AIDS, Bird Flu, E Coli, Al Queida, ISIS, communism, Saddam Hussein, Super Flu, sharks, Islam, Socialism, national health care, taxes, the knockout game, gun control, West Nile Virus... "Pollution and global warming? What's that? The science is not conclusive!" I guess liberals do it too to a certain extent (vaccinations, genetic seeds, nuclear power) but my God, my freakoutometer is broken. I think I should blame the media in general. I dunno. I'm worry weary is what I'm trying to say and my life has never been better.
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Well, apparently there's going to be a third Rush Revere book I didn't even know there was a second.
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BiggerBoat posted:This is a good point and something I meant to post about. Isn't this whole "OMG! EBOLA!" just another in a long line of poo poo I'm supposed to be terrified about every single day? See also: AIDS, Bird Flu, E Coli, Al Queida, ISIS, communism, Saddam Hussein, Super Flu, sharks, Islam, Socialism, national health care, taxes, the knockout game, gun control, West Nile Virus... I meant it more in the sense that if Obama needs to be kicked out of office for a dozen American ebola victims, then we'd better turn Reagan's grave into a septic tank connected to a public toilet for gays, blacks, and drug users.
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BiggerBoat posted:I guess liberals do it too to a certain extent (vaccinations, genetic seeds, nuclear power) but my God, my freakoutometer is broken. I think I should blame the media in general. I dunno. I'm worry weary is what I'm trying to say and my life has never been better. There is an important difference. Most of the wackos that tend to lean left, like the anti-vaxxers, are seen as nut jobs by most of their fellow liberals. The right-wing wing nuts, like climate change deniers and birthers, are either just barely outside of the mainstream of the political right, or they are outright embraced by the mainstream political right.
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Centripetal Horse posted:There is an important difference. Most of the wackos that tend to lean left, like the anti-vaxxers, are seen as nut jobs by most of their fellow liberals. The right-wing wing nuts, like climate change deniers and birthers, are either just barely outside of the mainstream of the political right, or they are outright embraced by the mainstream political right. There's also a huge issue when the mainstream right (or heck, even a lot of the "centrists") start redefining more reasonable things like "agitating for a higher minimum wage" as "loony left wacko poo poo".
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Also, there are plenty of right wing anti-vaxxers too. I live in a fairly right-wing town and we still have tons of them. The first anti-vaxxer I ever knew in real life is a straight up neo-con Bush was a great president righty.
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Yeah my sense was that's tied more to extreme distrust of gov't. Which bridges left and right fringe but particularly exploded on the right when Obama himself started spiking the injections with Kenya Autism juice.
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Also biological science knowledge. She was anti-vax pre-Obama, but became pro-vax as she took biology classes in university. She's still a right-winger, but a less crazy one, so small victories!
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Centripetal Horse posted:Clinton's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efhzzgyK_D8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRuoVSzwqs
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OK, OK. I didn't mean to attribute anti vaxxers solely to the left and I'd hate for it to muddy up my argument or derail the thread, even though most anti-vaxxers I know lean hard left. Doesn't matter. I just meant this whole "be afraid of everything all the time" poo poo is wearing me out and that once I started to tie it into the thread I realized that I get as much of this fear from left wing sources as I do from the Dittoheads. It's also worth pointing out, and what was sort of my original point, is that Rush and FOX are politicizing this illness, positing that the left "politicizes everything" and then claiming that the left are the ones politicizing this particular issue. Regardless, every news channel I watch is doing their best to scare the ever loving poo poo out of me 24/7. *And now, the weather. Big scary storm!!!* I haven't read any left wing news sources (meaning anyone other than FOX) making this a political issue at all. It's mainly just been "OMG, HOLY poo poo! DEATH!!! RUN!!!!" and "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?!?!?!" fear-mongering. In that sense, Right and "Left" wing media are similar and that's all I meant. Certainly it's a global health issue but at this point I'm so fatigued from being made to be scared of every loving thing under the sun that I'm beginning to look forward to dying. So long as I have an ample supply of morphine at least.
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I credit the feeling to the fact that we're on the first wave of an information overload. Things aren't drastically different than they've ever been, we just have a lot more details on it...24 hours a day...beamed directly into our pockets Hopefully someday soon we'll realize the importance of filters and reliable gatekeepers, or at least a better sense of bullshit. In happier news than BiggerBoat contemplating suicide... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-man-openly-carrying-new-gun-robbed-by-man-with-gun/ quote:GRESHAM, Ore. - A 21-year-old Oregon man was proud enough of his brand new Walther P22 handgun that he was carrying it in the open during the wee hours of Saturday morning after purchasing it earlier in the day. So which one was the good guy?
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Lest we forget Master Shake's suggested amendments to the constitution: So I guess he's not an origionalist.
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quote:The weapon used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said. Oh, well that narrows it down.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I credit the feeling to the fact that we're on the first wave of an information overload. Things aren't drastically different than they've ever been, we just have a lot more details on it...24 hours a day...beamed directly into our pockets Hopefully someday soon we'll realize the importance of filters and reliable gatekeepers, or at least a better sense of bullshit. The only.thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is 2 good guys with a gun
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Keeping it classy in Arizona, one of the Republican candidates thought it'd be a swell idea to use part of the James Foley beheading video in a campaign ad. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/219908-gop-house-candidate-ad-uses-isis-beheading-footage
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Keeping it classy in Arizona, one of the Republican candidates thought it'd be a swell idea to use part of the James Foley beheading video in a campaign ad. Oh that's no big deal it's just a longshot House candidate it's not like a major pla quote:Former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton defended the use of footage from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria's (ISIS) video of the beheading of American journalist James Foley in a Republican House candidate's ad on Tuesday. Oh. Well then. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/220038-john-bolton-defends-use-of-isis-beheading-footage-in-ad
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And yes Billy, if we don't run campaign ads with footage of a beheading where we blame sitting House members we're never going to fully understand the issue. That's just how it is.
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BiggerBoat posted:OK, OK. I didn't mean to attribute anti vaxxers solely to the left and I'd hate for it to muddy up my argument or derail the thread, even though most anti-vaxxers I know lean hard left. Doesn't matter. I just meant this whole "be afraid of everything all the time" poo poo is wearing me out and that once I started to tie it into the thread I realized that I get as much of this fear from left wing sources as I do from the Dittoheads. I think it's worth noting that while there is some overlap between the extreme right and far left on some things. The motivation behind their craziness is different. The left's positions tend to be based on distrust of authority with plenty of factual examples where such distrust has been warranted, while the right's tend to be based on fear of some vaguely defined amorphous threat. The anti-vax movement on the left is based on some very real documented and plausible concepts, such as the use of mercury based preservatives in vaccines and the understanding that there is an incentive to ignore negative effects by corporations (see global warning) the left wing anti-vac people think it's an issue of negligence or at worse willful ignorance rather than malice. As in doctors didn't intentionally overdose children with thimerosal they just didn't account for bio-accumulation so they didn't add up all the different vaccines that are given today. There is nothing irrational about that idea. Thimerosal is mercury based and mercury is a neurotoxin so it's not a huge leap from those facts to the conclusion that there might be a link between increased diagnoses of autism and increased use of vaccines. Add that to very real examples of corporations misleading consumers (see Cigarette industry) and they don't seem that crazy to me. The right on the other hand assumes that there are nefarious motives behind such things. Potential side affects from vaccines isn't the result of neglect or inattention but rather the calculated and intended result of the plots of "evil-doers". So just as they believe that fluoride is added to the water not to prevent tooth decay but in order to poison us by the evil new world order of lizard people/liberal elites engaged in a program of population control. They believe that vaccines are just another part of the same plot, after all there is no way an organization so powerful and evil would just put cyanide in the loving water and be done with it.
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Skex posted:I think it's worth noting that while there is some overlap between the extreme right and far left on some things. The motivation behind their craziness is different. I think you're doing a disservice to both the right and the left if you think one side owns the Conspiracy monomyth. Lizard people come in both left leaning and right leaning flavors.
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quote:Instead of seventh Heaven, it appears that Mr. Collins will become well-acquainted with the nine circles of hell. Luckily for Collins, he’ll be greeted with open arms by Islam’s own Muhammad (pedophilia be upon him). After all, the holiest of prophets did it first. http://louderwithcrowder.com/child-molestors-special-place-reserved-hell/
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Could somebody just repeatedly punch that guy in the nuts with a claw-hammer already?
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Lest we forget Master Shake's suggested amendments to the constituuution: gently caress yeah, let's do this, Levin. Lowering the bar to amend the constitution would make it harder for a few assholes to gain control of a big enough bloc of states to impede progress. Surely this would lead to the conservative Silent Majority rolling back the liberal whackos, right? I mean, it's got to be a small minority of horrible states dragging this country down the shitter every time... 14th Amendment (Equal Protection) 19th Amendment (Women's Right to Vote) 23rd Amendment (Population of DC gets the right to vote in Presidential elections) 24th Amendment (Abolishes the Poll Tax) Equal Rights Amendment (failed by 3 states) Child Labor Amendment (failed, later made obsolete when the Supreme Court changed its mind on the constitutionality of banning child labor) Special Bonus Comedy Babylon Astronaut posted:2. Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment Blue: Ratified prior to certification Cyan: Ratified after certification Orange: Rejected Gray: Never ratified Good going Levin, let's break the power of the bloc of states that fights every step this country tries to take towards democratic government, and toward human decency in general.
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# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:05 |
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He ONLY molested her a little!
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Say what you want about the Catholics, at least the child rapists they were running interference for weren't part of their religion via an imaginary TV character.
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