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qirex: Feb 15, 2001

still of all the things one could have ideas about in 2013, "let's buy nokia" shouldn't be near the top of that list

# ? Oct 8, 2014 21:52

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# ? May 9, 2024 15:01

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Metrication posted:

so what were those features that couldn't be done ?

palladium / cprm

one of the devs said it was hard enough to get the video hardware to work properly to begin with, never mind to break it on command when someone draggs a ripped copy of meet the parents.mkv into windows media player

# ? Oct 8, 2014 21:52

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

qirex posted:

still of all the things one could have ideas about in 2013, "let's buy nokia" shouldn't be near the top of that list

# ? Oct 8, 2014 21:52

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

This is, says Nadella, �a great world. It�s not lost on a few other people who are capable of exploiting that world. But the thing . . . what is scarce in all of this abundance is human attention. And whoever does the best job of building the right software experiences to give both organizations and individuals time back...

i got this far and wanted my time back tbh

# ? Oct 8, 2014 21:57

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

There�s a sense in the world outside Redmond, Washington, that Microsoft�s best days are behind it, that the sprawling colossus, which employs more than 100,000 people, doesn�t know what it is, or even what it wants to be. Gates and Nadella are adamant that�s not the case, and they are both adept at the sort of big-picture corporate-speak designed to persuade people that the company not only has its act together but also has a vision.

but that means they dont have a vision!!!!

# ? Oct 8, 2014 21:59

raruler: Oct 5, 2003; “Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Shaggar posted:

spotlight is just search. its not at all similar.

spotlight is a metadata store

it's used for things beyond "just search"

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:04

Sniep: Mar 28, 2004; All I needed was that fatty blunt...

King of Breakfast

do people really use the google pay store?

i thought android users just rooted and pirated all their pay-for apps.

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:05

Fame Douglas: Nov 20, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Unfortunately, HFS+ is a total piece of poo poo. Apple should have adopted XFS.

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:06

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Sniep posted:

do people really use the google pay store?

i thought android users just rooted and pirated all their pay-for apps.

I bought desert golf

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:06

raruler: Oct 5, 2003; “Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

Fame Douglas posted:

Unfortunately, HFS+ is a total piece of poo poo. Apple should have adopted XFS.

if larry had bought sun a wee bit earlier Apple would've kept up with the ZFS stuff

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:07

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

im sure when apple change file system it will be seamless and upgrade in the background due to magic

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:08

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

can any other os compete with windows in the enterprise?

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:11

Rexicon1: Oct 9, 2007; A Shameful Path Led You Here

wait people actually own androids?

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:13

Kiwi Ghost Chips: Feb 19, 2011; Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

Fame Douglas posted:

Unfortunately, HFS+ is a total piece of poo poo. Apple should have adopted XFS.

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:13

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

can any other os compete with windows in the enterprise?

ios

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:13

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

ios isn't even competitive w/ android anymore

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:15

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

Thanks Ants posted:

there was an asus laptop with a lump on the outside used to demo how useful it was, in a "look you can see the emails that arrived while this thing was awake that you didnt get a chance to read. no it cant update when its asleep" way.

2008 was a dark time

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:26

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

the only good microsoft sideshow would be a bunch of dudes doing donuts in the parking lot

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:36

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Shaggar posted:

ios isn't even competitive w/ android anymore

you gotta try harder than this

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:38

pagancow: Jan 15, 2001; Video Stymie

Thanks Ants posted:

im sure when apple change file system it will be seamless and upgrade in the background due to magic

This happened in Windows 2000 if you upgraded from 98 FAT32. You would install Windows 2000 on a FAT32 partition, and then in the OS you would run a command that would just convert it all over to NTFS and it just worked.

loving voodo, you could keep using the OS while it was running too.

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:53

BangersInMyKnickers: Nov 3, 2004; I have a thing for courageous dongles

fat32 was some basic stupid poo poo, migrating off ntfs with all the weird rear end features not breaking anything would be a real trick

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:54

pagancow: Jan 15, 2001; Video Stymie

oh yeah. convert.exe was one way

but why would you want something other than NTFS on a workstation?

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:56

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

fat32 was some basic stupid poo poo, migrating off ntfs with all the weird rear end features not breaking anything would be a real trick

i had to write a fuckin huge nasty disgusting python script that moved 1.2TB of networked user paths & folders to HFS from NTFS and fix filenames and poo poo

lol

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:56

Fame Douglas: Nov 20, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

pagancow posted:

but why would you want something other than ~~NTFS~~ ZFS on a workstation?

# ? Oct 8, 2014 22:57

raruler: Oct 5, 2003; “Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”

pagancow posted:

This happened in Windows 2000 if you upgraded from 98 FAT32. You would install Windows 2000 on a FAT32 partition, and then in the OS you would run a command that would just convert it all over to NTFS and it just worked.

loving voodo, you could keep using the OS while it was running too.

well outside of encrypted or sparse files, FAT and NTFS don't actually store files differently

the conversion is basically reading the FAT metadata, and writing out the NTFS version into freespace, and after that's done it writes the NTFS stuff onto the front of the volume

The general outline of the conversion process is as follows:

Create holes (that is, relocate FAT clusters) for the fixed-location NTFS structure and other contiguous data (if necessary) and save the new FAT. If the necessary sectors cannot be made available due to being unreadable, for example, the conversion process will fail and the FAT volume will remain in the same state it was in before the attempted conversion.
Create NTFS elementary data structures in FAT free space. These are the fixed-size tables and structures common to any NTFS volume. The size of these tables may vary depending on the size of the volume, but do not depend on the number of files on the volume.
Create the NTFS master file table and directory listings in the FAT free space. The space required for this step is variable and depends on the total number of files on the FAT volume.
Mark as free in the NTFS bitmap those NTFS clusters being used by FAT- specific structures. After the conversion is complete, the FAT meta-data overhead can be reclaimed as free space to NTFS.
Write NTFS boot sector. This is the final action that causes the volume to be recognized as NTFS rather than FAT. If the conversion fails at any step prior to this, the volume will still be a valid FAT volume and will be recognized as such.

# ? Oct 8, 2014 23:01

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

qirex posted:

the only good microsoft sideshow would be a bunch of dudes doing donuts in the parking lot

the one guy who could have organized that put on his vader helmet, mounted his motorcycle, and rode off into the sunset

:rip:

lunix archduke

# ? Oct 8, 2014 23:04

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

can any other os compete with windows in the enterprise?

enterprise is kind of a vague term

if you mean office poo poo, then yeah it's theoretically possible

for a lot of enterprise services all they need "don't change for x years" and windows is the best at doing that (and they've been around for x+n years)

# ? Oct 8, 2014 23:04

Fame Douglas: Nov 20, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

I think he meant the USS Enterprise.

# ? Oct 8, 2014 23:05

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

raruler posted:

if larry had bought sun a wee bit earlier Apple would've kept up with the ZFS stuff

zfs doesnt seem like a good choice for a consumer file system.

im the file system that needs a relatively large amount of ECC ram to work efficiently

# ? Oct 8, 2014 23:52

Kiwi Ghost Chips: Feb 19, 2011; Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

hfs+ isn't a good choice for anything

# ? Oct 8, 2014 23:56

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

hfs+ isn't a good choice for anything

More like HFCS+

# ? Oct 9, 2014 00:59

Dixie Cretin Seaman: Jan 22, 2008; all hat and one catte; Hot Rope Guy

raruler posted:

spotlight is a metadata store

it's used for things beyond "just search"

didn't know this. can you do more complex queries based on attribute values?

# ? Oct 9, 2014 01:00

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

lol that Toronto goal song is awful

# ? Oct 9, 2014 01:15

pagoe: Feb 19, 2013

I don't understand what's wrong with hfs+. enlighten me please

# ? Oct 9, 2014 01:34

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Shaggar posted:

lol that Toronto goal song is awful

lol wrong thread

# ? Oct 9, 2014 01:35

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Shaggar posted:

lol wrong thread

oh i thought ballmer had bought a mls team

# ? Oct 9, 2014 01:46

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

pagoe posted:

I don't understand what's wrong with hfs+. enlighten me please

it's a hacked together stuff made for backwards compatibility and it's not very pretty at all

it's basically what you'd expect if microsoft developed a(nother) file system

# ? Oct 9, 2014 02:09