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HonorableTB posted:Good god that would be terrifying for a non-native to try and navigate It's related to the fact that all of Japan's railways are privatized so there's like eight competing railway companies serving the Tokyo metro area and that map is showing them all at once. Also yes it's terrifying. I've been to Tokyo a bunch of times and never used the Tokyo subway because all the places I've wanted to be have been served by JR or Keikyu trains. I wonder what the subway is like.
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HonorableTB posted:Good god that would be terrifying for a non-native to try and navigate, and I thought Moscow's was pretty awful when I lived there: Moscow has gotta be one of the more logical of the larger subway systems, too, thanks to that circle line.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 18:02 |
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Never actually used it, but New York City Subway is my favorite subway. Though the station names are awful and unimaginative.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 18:25 |
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How confusing/hard to naviguate do people find the Paris Metro? I think it's pretty straighforward but I'm very used to it, so maybe I'm not objective. I really like the original names though. http://www.ratp.fr/informer/pdf/orienter/f_plan.php
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 18:48 |
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HonorableTB posted:Good god that would be terrifying for a non-native to try and navigate
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 18:56 |
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Barcelona's public transportation owns and it's gonna own even harder once they connect the two tram networks through Avinguda Diagonal and finish lines 9 and 10.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 18:57 |
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Ditocoaf posted:I'm sure the actual Tokyo subway system maps are much easier to parse. It's probably just not a system that fits well into that cutesy symmetrical-with-focus-on-circles style that particular artist uses. Also as I said that map is not showing just the subway system. It's a combined map of all the rail services in the Tokyo metro area. Including JR, Keio, Keikyu and so on.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:03 |
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:12 |
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HonorableTB posted:Good god that would be terrifying for a non-native to try and navigate, and I thought Moscow's was pretty awful when I lived there: This looks extremely logical and easy to follow. The circle is great.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:19 |
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They built a bunch of new apartments in Irvington in anticipation of the BART station, but they apparently decided to pass Irvington over
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:20 |
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The Pittsburgh "T" aka: "People in Mt.Lebanon and Bethel Park Don't Want to Park Downtown or at the Stadium."
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:25 |
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Belgrade metro:
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:34 |
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:40 |
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if only
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:43 |
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The first time I boarded Berlin's S-bahn system, I was a dumb American who had very little experience with public transportation and got my dumbass lost Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 9, 2014 |
# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:44 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Forbidden Well fine I didn't want to see your stupid map.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 19:51 |
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All these Tube maps and no-one's posted the original? And today
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:01 |
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Ditocoaf posted:I'm sure the actual Tokyo subway system maps are much easier to parse. It's probably just not a system that fits well into that cutesy symmetrical-with-focus-on-circles style that particular artist uses.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:03 |
BART owns, and is easily the most decipherable map posted yet.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:13 |
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That looks more like a metro map for Kowloon Walled City.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:13 |
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Funny that even today Kowloon City doesn't have an MTR stop. You've gotta take a minibus from Kowloon Tong or Wong Tai Sin. The MTR is relatively simple because Hong Kong is dense as hell and was deliberately developed along thin rail corridor strips.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:18 |
JosefStalinator posted:BART owns, and is easily the most decipherable map posted yet. But that's largely because BART has lovely coverage within core areas (like SF, Oakland, and Berkeley). It's not a bad system, but it's pretty much a hybrid metro/commuter rail system. It acts like commuter rail in the suburbs, with just one or two stations in any given town, but has a lot more/closer together stations within SF, Oakland and Berkeley, like a metro system. It focuses more on the commuter aspect overall though, so you have poor coverage within individual cities. It's only useful for travelling within SF if you live within several blocks of mission street or market street where it goes through downtown, for example....which covers what, just 20% of the city? So you still have to take the bus, or light rail, or walk or whatever afterwards, if you're going to most places in SF via BART. Thankfully they're expanding to SJ finally, and also have conceptual plans for new lines in SF/Oakland/Berkeley (as you can see in the map, though there's more that's not shown) and a second Transbay tube between SF and Oakland (which would all be amazing, and it would finally act like a proper metro system within SF and Oakland/Berkeley). But those new lines are going to be insanely expensive and there's no money for any of it.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:33 |
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Behold Vienna's five subway lines.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:39 |
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Riso posted:Behold Vienna's five subway lines. Five??? What sort of excess is that; you don't need five subway lines!
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:42 |
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I win.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:46 |
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Behold the Helsinki metro. There are a lot tram lines and trains ok, don't judge.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:47 |
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Now to scale! London NYC Shanghai BART + MUNI Barcelona Tokyo Moscow Paris Berlin (http://fakeisthenewreal.org/subway/)
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:49 |
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Shbobdb posted:Given the absolute dominance of Paris, would a more federalized system even make sense for France? I get that it is kinda tautological, Paris is absolutely culturally and politically dominant because Paris is absolutely culturally and politically dominant, but isn't that also really true? I don't know about a federal system but a bit of decentralization in certain areas would be pretty nice. Paris is absolutely politically dominant but from the far end of Finisterre it feels pretty culturally distant. Riso posted:Behold Vienna's five subway lines. Behold Rennes' single line. Although in a few years* there will be a second. *probably by 2018 or 2020 or who the gently caress knows when oh god there's nowhere to park because of the construction. Soviet Commubot fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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This is subway, tram/subway streetcars and one bus line, for whatever reason. Note the horizontal coast line in the image. Maps of The Hague will often have this, or a straight north-south coast line, even though neither make sense. It just makes for neater maps.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:52 |
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Sorry to divert from underground spaghetti chat, but I just saw these posted elsewhere and figured they belong here too: After a bit of googling, I also found this one: Notice the year, and check out Ukraine.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 20:52 |
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Here, since we're posting examples of transit systems, have Atlanta's horrible abortion of a rail network: I live about a five minute walk from the North Avenue station.
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Trabisnikof posted:
Hey man, that's not a map of BART + Muni lines, that's a map of BART + the portions of Muni that are in a subway (plus a tiny section of above ground Muni track getting shown in mission bay, for some reason). Here's a Muni map (you better like buses and not stupid faggy dumb trains):
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Rah! posted:Hey man, that's not a map of BART + Muni lines, that's a map of BART + the portions of Muni that are in a subway (plus a tiny section of above ground Muni track getting shown in mission bay, for some reason). I presume the artist only used the parts of MUNI that aren't regularly broken. But it does go to show how physically huge BART is compared to other systems.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 21:08 |
Trabisnikof posted:I presume the artist only used the parts of MUNI that aren't regularly broken. If that were the case, there would be no map at all And yeah, BART is pretty expansive. There's just not enough coverage in the core areas.
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EricBauman posted:
- Those aren't subway lines. The Hague has no subway. Those four lines are part of the Light Rail network. They may go overground or underground in places, in other places they use the regular tram rails. - The reason for the one bus line is because it's a replacement for Tram 9 to Scheveningen, which isn't running until december because of construction work.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 21:18 |
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Dear God you fool. What have you done? You've mentioned Romania. Now we'll never hear the end of it. Now I fully expect 3peat to give a full rundown of Romania's collective opinion on each of these countries and hope to see an expansion to the rest of the world's countries.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 21:22 |
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Carbon dioxide posted:- Those aren't subway lines. The Hague has no subway. Those four lines are part of the Light Rail network. They may go overground or underground in places, in other places they use the regular tram rails. ok ok, the lighter part in the middle of the city, that's where four of those lines go underground for two stops. Quit making my city look bad!
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 21:24 |
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my dad posted:After a bit of googling, I also found this one: That map gets Transdniester wrong... Edit: never mind, I didn't see it got its own color. OddObserver fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 9, 2014 |
# ? Oct 9, 2014 21:37 |
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What backwards countries build trains on the ground or even under it, then entrusts its safety to fallible bags of meat?? The future is about SKY TRAINS, run by perfect thinking machines.
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 21:40 |
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You need to go back and check how they're numbered.
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