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Exclamation Marx posted:a week or so ago the politoons thread was whiteknighting drone strikes so they could take ted rall down a peg, lol the politoons thread remains the best 2 minute hate thread out there, imo.
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R. Mute posted:my poly-amorous lover carlos latuff 
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Oct 12, 2014 01:57
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Oh. Right. One of those clubs who charge more a month than I make in a year. I'll get right on that. Fine, I'll spell it out for you. Republicans in the house? They were just the oppo. The Senate is your real enemy. Everyone in the house knew on healthcare, you go all in or you get sent home in shame. Rahm's plan was to go all-in before 2010 to avoid the off-year wave that was expected with a half measure. So Rahm negotiates with Pelosi, they make a deal: small-bills that let the oppo grandstand and put the onus on the Senate to up/down. Keep this in mind before the current PPACA moved through committee. Sometime, during this process, Durbin gets called to Bloomington and sees god. So Tricky Dicky rides into town, and waits. He also talks to some esteemed members in the house, and introduces them to god. Now, they're having a crisis of faith: There is one god, and her name was Nancy, so surely Tricky Dicky was of the proper faith; better beer summit with WH to confirm. Tricky Dicky knows Penny P and the downtown club are going to call the O-man on Rahm, to make sure Rahm can do what he said he'd do. O-man, being a very conservative and analytical individual, calls Tricky Dicky, and Tricky Dicky and gets told the house is already lost at least save the senate. Rahm, hearing of this, and with Maggy's illness weighing things down, motions to Daley its time to exit stage right. So Daley exits stage right, no up/down vote in the senate, and we get stuck with an omnibus PPACA rather the up/downs that Pelosi had ready so long as the President was willing to sign them all. Being a House moneyman, that's my understanding of what went down. Rahm and Pelosi knew that they could either go half in and lose the house for a generation and lose a shitload of then-safe states, or lose the Senate for one election. Obama chose the house to fall on the sword. And it did. Or so I've heard from Rahm and Durbin in their tellings and assigning of blame.
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Shear Modulus posted:In this post-Yingluck world who is the hottest current head of state/head of government?
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Oct 12, 2014 02:04
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Obama believes there are 57 states. My Internet GF believes there is only one. I guess you could say the truth is somewhere.... in the middle 
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Oct 12, 2014 02:05
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Joementum posted:Obama believes there are 57 states. My Internet GF believes there is only one. I guess you could say the truth is somewhere.... in the middle 16 years of Democratic Presidents from the golden city
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Oct 12, 2014 02:07
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My Imaginary GF posted:Fine, I'll spell it out for you. I feel like I'm reading a Damon Runyon story. Penny P is Penny Pritzker, I gather? And Daley is former mayor RM, who was still big in the Chicago machine? And he dropped out of pushing for the House bill+Senate up/down because of his wife, Maggie's illness? Who is God in this, though? My Imaginary GF posted:16 years of Democratic Presidents from the golden city You really are taking this "US is the Real Bearer of the Classical Torch" thing seriously, aren't you? Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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Oct 12, 2014 02:11
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Joni Ernst argued tonight in the IA Senate debate that she still believes Iraq had WMDs. She's going to make such an amazing replacement for Tom Harkin.
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Oct 12, 2014 02:18
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I always have a smile on my face when I read that name, because it sounds so remarkably similiar to Latif from Strikeback. They're even in the same political spectrum. 
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Oct 12, 2014 02:20
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My Imaginary GF posted:Fine, I'll spell it out for you. this post was tedious as gently caress
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Oct 12, 2014 02:21
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Shear Modulus posted:In this post-Yingluck world who is the hottest current head of state/head of government? do Monarchs count? The royal couple of Bhutan are notorious for being a pair of total babes. 
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Oct 12, 2014 02:22
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Come on, people, it's hardly fair to pile on the man like this. I think emails are easier to respond to one at a time than posts: try constituent.services@sendurbin.gov and you ought to hear back pretty quickly.
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Oct 12, 2014 02:24
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It's been a while, but isn't this version of Rahm's position the polar opposite of how he reportedly did things during the health care push? I remember distinctly multiple stories (like this one) saying Rahm wanted to pass piecemeal bills to get a little bit at a time (which in retrospect would have crashed and burned, so I get the incentive to revise history a bit).
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Oct 12, 2014 02:35
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Badger of Basra posted:this post was tedious as gently caress I lost the ability to follow it when I realized I didn't give a gently caress about pet names.
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The Warszawa posted:It's been a while, but isn't this version of Rahm's position the polar opposite of how he reportedly did things during the health care push? I remember distinctly multiple stories (like this one) saying Rahm wanted to pass piecemeal bills to get a little bit at a time (which in retrospect would have crashed and burned, so I get the incentive to revise history a bit). Yup, and he told Obama to just drop the whole thing when it started looking like it'd be a big fight in the Senate. Basically, if you want to believe MIGF's story, you need to ignore everything that has ever been written about PPACA.
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Oct 12, 2014 02:39
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Badger of Basra posted:this post was tedious as gently caress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjfEec1mfZE
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well, the good wife is certainly choosing a direction here. in this episode, our heroes defended a drone pilot that killed a bunch of innocents from a murder charge. she was charged because she killed innocents in the wrong way, which made it Not Okay. this obviously raises a lot of questions ranging from the morality of the drone program to the way the drone program is set up, but the good wife spent most of their episode throwing some soft-balls and skimming over these questions until the very end. after the guilty verdict, alicia says the drone pilot was a scapegoat, the judge responds by saying that while that may be true, that doesn't negate the responsibility of the pilot. while that is of course technically true, it's also meaningless if nothing is done about the scapegoating/the greater issue involved and as long as nothing is done, thinking like that just reinforces The Greater Issue. i feel like this reflects on the show's writers as well. they're ultimately the ones making the judge's point, not only in having her saying it but also in how they chose to write this episode - bypassing the issue of drone strikes and hammering home the point of The Law Is The Law. it's a very lawyer-y way of thinking so i guess i shouldn't be surprised by it, but it disgusts me to the very core. Badger of Basra posted:this post was tedious as gently caress
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On that topic, scenes from a Rand Paul campaign event:quote:“If they’re American citizens overseas and they’re fighting for the terrorists, then hell yeah, zap ’em out of the air,” Van Winkle says. “They’ve basically chosen to relinquish their citizenship.”
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Joementum posted:Yup, and he told Obama to just drop the whole thing when it started looking like it'd be a big fight in the Senate. Basically, if you want to believe MIGF's story, you need to ignore everything that has ever been written about PPACA. I disagree that the piecemeal would've crashed and burned. He told Obama to drop it when the Senate actively began to undermine the plan to get the impact of healthcare reform felt before '10. Obama refused, and passed the Senate's preferred version that would ensure they kept a majority, at a loss of the House for a generation and a shitload of statehouses for the 'reasonable compromise' Obama settled on (Federal funds to states for Medicare expansion).
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My Imaginary GF posted:I disagree that the piecemeal would've crashed and burned. Oh course you do, Rahm. BTW, why did you post during Shabbat? I thought you're Orthodox? 
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Oct 12, 2014 02:54
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lol is rahm really orthodox
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Oct 12, 2014 02:56
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Badger of Basra posted:lol is rahm really orthodox Personally or professionally? Much more reconstructionist then folks give credit.
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Oct 12, 2014 03:02
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My Imaginary GF posted:Personally or professionally? Much more reconstructionist then folks give credit. ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2014/10/11/iowa-poll-romney-clinton-president/17115473/ Iowa Poll: Romney leads Clinton in 2016 matchup
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PupsOfWar posted:do Monarchs count? The royal couple of Bhutan are notorious for being a pair of total babes. Yeah I think they win. Come to think of it all royalty never have to lift a finger and can piss away all the state money they want on the most expensive personal trainers and chefs; why aren't they all hot?
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made of bees posted:Inbreeding?
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ReindeerF posted:That and there's no requirement to be anything other than royal, so you can become a fat, hideous piece of poo poo and they can't kick you out, just cut your appearances. Explains the mysterious disappearance of KJU!
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Oct 12, 2014 04:19
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Explains the mysterious disappearance of KJU!
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Oct 12, 2014 04:21
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ReindeerF posted:I think being a huge fatass is a prerequisite for joining the Kim family. Like if you get skinny they cut your public appearances. Literally the opposite of reality in this case.
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Oct 12, 2014 04:28
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Explains the mysterious disappearance of KJU! Guess you could say, someone cut the legs from under his political career.
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Oct 12, 2014 04:30
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My Imaginary GF posted:Guess you could say, someone cut the legs from under his political career. You could very well say that. I couldn't possibly comment.
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Oct 12, 2014 04:36
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who you gonna believe, an SA gimmick account or every journalist who ever wrote about PPACA if the story were true do you really think that rahm's ego would allow him to go this long without leaking this poo poo to every DC journalist under the sun
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Oct 12, 2014 04:41
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Gail Wynand posted:who you gonna believe, an SA gimmick account or every journalist who ever wrote about PPACA he's just a really modest self-sacrificer type, of course
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Gail Wynand posted:who you gonna believe, an SA gimmick account or every journalist who ever wrote about PPACA You heard it here first, folks, Rahm Emanuel's got massive diarrhea, leaking poo poo all over DC!
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ReindeerF posted:That and there's no requirement to be anything other than royal, so you can become a fat, hideous piece of poo poo and they can't kick you out, just cut your appearances. Someone's forking over free money every day, are you hauling rear end out of bed to hit the gym or ordering room service? 
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i wonder if the royal household would pay for lipo if someone got too fat
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Badger of Basra posted:i wonder if the royal household would pay for lipo if someone got too fat the most powerful of the princesses is not exactly svelte
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Gail Wynand posted:CP has managed to avoid being a fatty although I suspect his medical conditions help w that CP?
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