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NESguerilla posted:PS online in general is pretty pathetic. Sony has not transitioned into the online world gracefully. As much as I like PS4 it's really a joke with their endless stupid problems. 360 was better 7 years ago and thats why people bought 360's over PS3s for so long. My PSN works pretty drat well. Maybe I just have lowered online expectations from following Sony through PS1-4, or maybe I just play a lot of single player games. Whatever the case, about the only thing that gives me nightmares to think about is the old firmware updates for PS3.
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PS Online may seem like crap compared to Xbox Live, but consider what they are transitioning from on the PS3 and the amount of new customers they have to accommodate now. I'm more surprised that PSN hasn't been dead in the water from so many PS4s being sold. They got work to do, though. No denying that.
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Oct 12, 2014 10:57
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I'm slightly disappointed by NBA2k15, I really don't see much of a difference other than the menus compared to 14. - it still plays exactly the same. I guess your guy has slightly more weight to him, but every other player will still stop him instantly if you even brush against them. - controls are still sluggish as hell. Your guy reacts late to everything and half the time moves even if you don't touch the stick. - they cut out highlights, but left the pointless upcoming games spam during every break. - the shoes and tattoos are exactly the same as 14. You have to equip all the stuff separately for home and visit games, including tattoos 
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Oct 12, 2014 11:27
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:They came out and said in a Facebook post or something that they did load testing and stuff but at the end of the day their servers just couldn't deal with all the challenges and leaderboard type stuff. I don't get it, plenty of games have handled leaderboards and/or challenges just fine: Spelunky, Velocity 2X, Need for Speed, Rayman Legends....... either the Driveclub devs have seriously hosed up something or they vastly underestimated how much server capacity they would need.
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Oct 12, 2014 12:28
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Current theory seems to be the online stuff is trying to update too often, i.e. constantly in the middle of races as you make laptimes or pass the dynamic challenges, to the effect that they're basically DDoSing their own servers.
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Oct 12, 2014 12:37
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Aishan posted:Current theory seems to be the online stuff is trying to update too often, i.e. constantly in the middle of races as you make laptimes or pass the dynamic challenges, to the effect that they're basically DDoSing their own servers. They confirmed that in the wording they used in the most recent update about it. How did they not figure that one out ahead of launch  e: The Evil Within has been likened to Resident Evil 4 and the Dark Souls games, getting great feedback and score from copies that made it out early, just not looking visually good or performing that great. The game is "intended to be an old-school throwback to horror games". Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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Oct 12, 2014 12:46
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Metanaut posted:I'm slightly disappointed by NBA2k15, I really don't see much of a difference other than the menus compared to 14. Thank you for this. I've always loved 2K games but this is some of the crap that bothered me so much last year. I'll save my cash this go round.
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Oct 12, 2014 13:59
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:
I have no idea what it is, but I want it to be from the sequel to Dishonored 
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Oct 12, 2014 14:53
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Iacen posted:I have no idea what it is, but I want it to be from the sequel to Dishonored Sorry, it's The Evil Within if I recognize that white hoodie-thing-guy correctly.
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Oct 12, 2014 15:03
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Jamfrost posted:I suppose 30fps really is what gamers have to look forward to nowadays. 30fps (or less) has been the console standard for so long that most developers are gonna go for that plus more effects than dial down the shininess for 60fps because the majority of people (ie. those not posting on game message boards) don't know or care about the difference. Also some devs are just lovely and couldn't hit a higher frame rate if they tried.
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Oct 12, 2014 15:05
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Ularg posted:PS Online may seem like crap compared to Xbox Live Not recently. Live has had limited functionality and down time more often than ps4 since the bone launch.
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Oct 12, 2014 15:11
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Sakurazuka posted:30fps (or less) has been the console standard for so long that most developers are gonna go for that plus more effects than dial down the shininess for 60fps because the majority of people (ie. those not posting on game message boards) don't know or care about the difference. Also some devs are just lovely and couldn't hit a higher frame rate if they tried. Not to mention that 60fps doesn't come across in screenshots, unlike better visuals. At least most fighting games and 'character action games' will do 60fps. That makes me wonder - has any dev ever actually released a 30fps fighting game?
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Oct 12, 2014 15:13
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Like recently or ever because I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that no PS1 era fighting game even got close to 30fps.
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Oct 12, 2014 15:35
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Picked up Evil Within from a shop that's happy to break street dates whenever it can and it's really good so far. Very atmospheric. A heavy emphasis on stealth too. I've read nothing about this game and picked it up totally on a whim so I was very surprised that it doesn't take place entirely in the mental hospital and that you escape there at the end of the first chapter. The story seems absolutely insane so far.
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Oct 12, 2014 15:45
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Leyburn posted:Picked up Evil Within from a shop that's happy to break street dates whenever it can and it's really good so far. Very atmospheric. A heavy emphasis on stealth too. Lucky, I just finished Alien Isolation moments ago and blind pre-ordered TEW. I really hope it's good. Be sure to post more impressions.
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Oct 12, 2014 17:40
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BreakAtmo posted:Not to mention that 60fps doesn't come across in screenshots, unlike better visuals. At least most fighting games and 'character action games' will do 60fps. A bunch of early 3D fighters on PS1 run at 30, I think. NESguerilla posted:Did you like Alien Isolation? Alien: Isolation's devotion to the look of Alien and the uncompromising attempt at making the alien truly frightening, deadly and imposing makes it a fantastic game for me. I even like how they balanced the killing/violence and stuff, it's a game where you kill people, sure, but it's not ABOUT killing people and it's often the worst option.
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Oct 12, 2014 18:15
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That makes me and my gf happy. I was a bit on the fence on buying Alien Isolation. Also, about DriveClub. Who the hell made it? Sounds like almost a up and coming developer with all these issues that are happening. Sheesh.
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Oct 12, 2014 18:33
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Alien: Isolation is a great game that gets worse the more you die. The first time you go through any given area is fantastic but even a single death really really hurts it because of the way they designed the save systems. Considering it is a game with tons of insta-death and somewhat wonky enemy AI, that can lead to wildly divergent experiences. It is a masterful attempt to make the Alien cool and scary instead of cannon fodder and it works. It just has issues being actually fun at times.
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Oct 12, 2014 18:36
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ImpAtom posted:Alien: Isolation is a great game that gets worse the more you die. The first time you go through any given area is fantastic but even a single death really really hurts it because of the way they designed the save systems. Considering it is a game with tons of insta-death and somewhat wonky enemy AI, that can lead to wildly divergent experiences. That's honestly the biggest problem with the game and whether or not you'll enjoy it depends on this entirely. I think the fact the alien's AI is pretty dynamic helps with this somewhat, but repeating parts can be pretty crappy. On the other hand, after dying in one section like 10 times and finally getting towards the exit while I can hear the alien stomping around behind me is loving TERRIFYING.
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Sakurazuka posted:Like recently or ever because I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that no PS1 era fighting game even got close to 30fps. I know for a fact that Bloody Roar 2 ran at 60, so there you go. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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Oct 12, 2014 18:43
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Shindragon posted:Also, about DriveClub. Who the hell made it? Sounds like almost a up and coming developer with all these issues that are happening. Sheesh.
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Oct 12, 2014 18:46
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I heard Alien Isolation is goddamn terrifying on PC with an Occulus Rift, which it supports out of the box... wish that thing would come out already and the PS4 supported it, but of course Sony has to make their own thing. 
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Sakurazuka posted:Like recently or ever because I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that no PS1 era fighting game even got close to 30fps. VF2 is 60FPS on Saturn and there are absolutely a few 60FPS fighter on PSX. There are actually 60FPS FPS, games of all kinds on PSX, Saturn, even N64 has a few. Also most 2D ports on PSX (and many on Dreamcast too) use 3D hit boxes running at 60FPS with the sprites used as flat textures. It's why the hit detection is hilarious on rushed ones like DC SFA3 or most of the PSX KoF games. The Metroid Prime games looked incredible on release and were locked at 60FPS on Gamecube, hell Turok 1 was 60, this isn't an unreachable bar at all. There are several launch era PS2 games at 60FPS. Just Halo came out and people suddenly found 24FPS acceptable or whatever, I don't know. Even when very egregious stuff like Lords of Shadow came out most reviews didb't mention how choppy and awful the framerate is. I can play stuff like Alien Trilogy or Doom 64 smoothly so it doesn stand out as laziness to me. Again if something is at 30FPS it's not world ending or whatever but I just can't stand the "constant flux between 15-30" version of "30FPS" people accept now. It looks like crap to me.
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cat doter posted:That's honestly the biggest problem with the game and whether or not you'll enjoy it depends on this entirely. I think the fact the alien's AI is pretty dynamic helps with this somewhat, but repeating parts can be pretty crappy. I played it on easy and only had minor trouble. I actually recommend playing it on easy your first time.
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Shindragon posted:Also, about DriveClub. Who the hell made it? Sounds like almost a up and coming developer with all these issues that are happening. Sheesh.
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Neo Rasa posted:VF2 is 60FPS on Saturn and there are absolutely a few 60FPS fighter on PSX. There are actually 60FPS FPS, games of all kinds on PSX, Saturn, even N64 has a few. Also most 2D ports on PSX (and many on Dreamcast too) use 3D hit boxes running at 60FPS with the sprites used as flat textures. It's why the hit detection is hilarious on rushed ones like DC SFA3 or most of the PSX KoF games. The Metroid Prime games looked incredible on release and were locked at 60FPS on Gamecube, hell Turok 1 was 60, this isn't an unreachable bar at all. There are several launch era PS2 games at 60FPS. Just Halo came out and people suddenly found 24FPS acceptable or whatever, I don't know. Even when very egregious stuff like Lords of Shadow came out most reviews didb't mention how choppy and awful the framerate is. There is nothing magical about 60fps that requires special tech or something. All you have to do is less work per frame.
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haveblue posted:There is nothing magical about 60fps that requires special tech or something. All you have to do is less work per frame. Uh, what? There's tons of tech that does this, ie more efficient engines that can do more per frame. I see what you mean though. If you're using, say, unreal engine 3, you just need to do less stuff. See, thing is, targeting 30fps makes a ton of sense on a console. If you're on a closed platform like the PS4, if you target 60fps that's effectively half the potential detail as a 30fps game. You can't just throw more detail at it and be like "Oh it's a high end PC game" like CD project red might. Tons of people that grew up with the 360 as their first console are suddenly up in arms that everything isn't 60fps because this is the 'next generation' and it just smacks of entitlement. This is how it's been since the beginning, the loving NES sacrificed framerate for detail. It'll be like this forever.
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Its kind of amazing to hear the issues some people have with PSN. Its been rock solid steady for me since I got my PS4, even while wireless, and when there have been issues, its been my router/modem, not the network. Parties join quickly, messages send, I download stuff from the store easily. Virtually no lag in online games, and I'm on a pretty bog standard Comcast cable connection. I can't comment on Driveclub, but drat, some of you make it seem like PSN is constantly down and unusable. The service has actually improved drastically from PS3 days and PS+ is still the best deal in gaming. Could it be better? Sure, but I would much rather deal with PSN than Xbox Live any day. Maybe check your home networks?
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G-Whizard posted:Lucky, I just finished Alien Isolation moments ago and blind pre-ordered TEW. I really hope it's good. Be sure to post more impressions. Well I've played for a little bit over 4 hours now and I've just finished up the 5th chapter. After the stealth heavy first few hours, the game turns into a much more action heavy affair. The best way of describing it so far would be like Resident Evil 4 crossed with Silent Hill. It really does feel like a follow up to RE4 but with a supernatural twist to it.
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a shameful boehner posted:Its kind of amazing to hear the issues some people have with PSN. Its been rock solid steady for me since I got my PS4, even while wireless, and when there have been issues, its been my router/modem, not the network. Can't speak for everyone but the problems I'm having with PSN are things like getting a notification that I got a message and then not being able to actually get the message when I look and friends lists acting weird and stuff. Haven't had any problems with games working.
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The new 3DS Zelda game runs at 60 fps. edit: 3DS games have to run at twice the frames per second when the 3D effect is on so it's really running at 120 fps. 3DS is the most powerful system ya'll. Stick Figure Mafia fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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I wish more games ran at 60 fps because I only can get 30 enjoyment out of 30fps games. I don't know how I even deal with NES games giving out less fps/eps (Enjoyment Per Second).
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wow, this fps argument really brought out the stupid. Yeah we've been having meaningful conversations up until this point Casnorf posted:Destiny is literally Garfield. You know, fat comic strip cat, hates Mondays...Garfield.
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Oct 12, 2014 20:29
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FPS also stands for funs per second and if I'm not maximizing my FPS then I'm not maximizing my funs.
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Stick Figure Mafia posted:Yeah we've been having meaningful conversations up until this point
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I'm slowly teetering towards getting TEW but I think I'm the one person on the planet who didn't play RE4 so I have no loving clue how that is a good or a bad thing. All I remember from people talking about it is some skeevy merchant guy, really pissed off mexicans or guatamalens, tentacles that popped out of said people's heads, and some giant loving fish that popped out of the water to kill ya. I did like Silent Hill though. Are the puzzles batshit insane? That's one thing I remember from Silent Hill and from the first Resident Evil.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I'm slowly teetering towards getting TEW but I think I'm the one person on the planet who didn't play RE4 so I have no loving clue how that is a good or a bad thing. The puzzles in Resident Evil 4 are much more like the puzzles in the first Resident Evil. Silent Hill can get some weird rear end puzzles at times and are fun at higher difficulty I hope to god EW doesn't go that route. I actually just finished playing through RE4 for the first time and was surprised how much content there is. Your first run through can take around 15-20 hours and there are tons of things to do in New Game+ and beyond. I hope Evil Within retains that aspect of Resident Evil games, the multiple playthroughs with goofy rear end costumes and weapons.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I think that's a pretty good analogy, based on my experience with Destiny. Destiny Minus Destiny gonna be so good.
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