|
Republican Vampire posted:Yeah it's almost as if rather than reading words letter by letter we instead just sort of glide over them and, in the process, fill in a lot of blanks with questionable accuracy. I think most people don't like saying their memory is faulty. Our memory is supposed to be the only objective personal truth of our personal reality, so the idea that it could be incorrect just feels wrong. Our mind does its best to convince us what we remember must be correct, too, so we end up doubling down. This sounds like a pretty typical new age wackery to me rather than anything truly insane.
|
# ? Oct 12, 2014 14:53 |
|
|
# ? May 21, 2024 14:58 |
|
"The memory cheats."
|
# ? Oct 12, 2014 17:15 |
|
RagnarokAngel posted:This sounds like a pretty typical new age wackery to me rather than anything truly insane. That's contradictory
|
# ? Oct 12, 2014 19:03 |
|
EvilGenius posted:That was my thought. It's a classic example of how memory works. You read Bernstein, commit it to memory, and then never actually read the author again. There are also general "top 40" format stations across the english speaking world that have specific programs during the week that are top 30 (and top 20, and top 10), as well programs on specific genre stations that are top 30 (etc).
|
# ? Oct 12, 2014 19:08 |
|
Wow, people seem to really be getting into ebola conspiracies. I've seen a number popping up on social networks. They all seem to revolve around a sinister intent to infect a percentage of the US and reduce world population (the old standby). It'd be nice if the news outlets would stop trying to scare the hell out of everyone. edit Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 13, 2014 |
# ? Oct 13, 2014 02:21 |
|
Alex Jones is a terrible person, and I really pray he gets exposed for the fraud he is.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 02:59 |
Mercury Hat posted:This showed up on my Tumblr dashboard earlier: Pictured: a strong contender for "funniest thing that has ever existed."
|
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 03:15 |
|
The Mama Bear laughing her rear end off as Papa Bear looks completely mortified makes it a perfect photoshop (it was from the Photoshop Phriday from around a decade ago, right?).
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 03:19 |
|
What worries me (besides the viral outbreak itself) is the way so many right-wing outlets seamlessly blend ebola fear into their ongoing vendetta w/r/t "the border." The dude arrived by airplane, there's been no recorded ebola (or ISIS for that matter) in Mexico, the whole thing has just been pulled from thin air. And it seems to be everywhere.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 03:29 |
|
This Week was leading with that nitwit Congressman that said he *knew* about multiple ISIS fighters that've come through the Mexico/US border. They're approach wasn't "Why would a Congressman say something so ridiculous?", it was "Could what this Congressman said be true???" They're basically enabling people like Jones with their refusal to label anyone as insane. People like Bachmann, Gohmert, King (the Iowa one), and Paul should've been laughed out of Congress ages ago.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 04:13 |
|
Sir Tonk posted:Wow, people seem to really be getting into ebola conspiracies. I've seen a number popping up on social networks. What world do these people live in where two is considered an outbreak?
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 04:55 |
|
Vorpal Cat posted:What world do these people live in where two is considered an outbreak? A world where Outbreak is the standard of medical knowledge.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 05:08 |
|
FuzzySkinner posted:Alex Jones is a terrible person, and I really pray he gets exposed for the fraud he is. Nobody will believe it when it happens because given how much he seems to love Russia he's either on the take for them or just can't hide his love for Cult of Personality fascist leaders. Sir Tonk posted:This Week was leading with that nitwit Congressman that said he *knew* about multiple ISIS fighters that've come through the Mexico/US border. They're approach wasn't "Why would a Congressman say something so ridiculous?", it was "Could what this Congressman said be true???" Why would they confront these people when it might damage their ratings? What sort of godless commie monster are you to think that media outlets should care beyond their bottom line?
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 05:19 |
|
Evil Fluffy posted:Nobody will believe it when it happens because given how much he seems to love Russia he's either on the take for them or just can't hide his love for Cult of Personality fascist leaders. I'm trying to figure out if it's he or Fox News that's actually more dangerous. I can at least argue Fox News doesn't create an entire army that denies national tragedies actually occurred, but then there's the whole promoting some terrible values in this country. But I don't think a Fox News viewer would be calling parents of dead children telling them this was all fake and just in general being an obnoxious rear end in a top hat. Also Fox News seems to pray upon people's racist/sexist views quite often, but Alex Jones is exploiting the mentally ill.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 06:09 |
|
Also, Fox News will use special effects to "enhance" news stories if they think it's necessary.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 06:27 |
|
My Imaginary GF posted:So, there's an extremely large amount of evidence in addition to Great Zimbabwe? poo poo happens, civilizations collapse. Yes there is in fact. Great Zimbabwe items making it to coastal Swahili city-states, smaller non-elite settlements dating to the same period spread around the region, smaller Zimbabwes across the plateau. Tons of evidence for the kingdom other than that one site.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 06:32 |
|
The shear weight and prevalence of the "Great Zimbabwe (or any other other precolonial african achievement) must have somehow been the work of white people or maaaaybe semites" idea does make radical historical-revisionist afrocentrists more tolerable than other conspiracy theorists, as far as I'm concerned. Just as a counterweight. Go ahead and declare that Sumeria was actually a civilization of black africans, that the Ethiopian empire lasted 7,500 years rather than 2,000, or that white people were genetically-engineered by a black mad scientist to destroy the golden age of Black Atlantis. Turnabout's fair play. Go for it. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Oct 13, 2014 |
# ? Oct 13, 2014 07:44 |
|
Sir Tonk posted:Wow, people seem to really be getting into ebola conspiracies. I've seen a number popping up on social networks. Wow, two whole cases, it's an outbreak, we're doomed! Sometimes people can be so damned stupid
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 12:13 |
|
I've noticed a trend of crazy conspiracy-believing people claiming that their opponents are all paid shills. Bitcoin is an easy example, if you follow any of the bitcoin threads here then you've seen tons of people from /r/bitcoin subreddit who authentically believe that every single person who criticizes bitcoin is being paid by banks or the government to hate bitcoin. I've also seen it with anti-vaxxers. I've personally been accused of being paid off by pharmaceutical companies because I don't believe that vaccines contain mind control serum or whatever the gently caress. Where I live there's a ballot initiative to put a moratorium on growing GMOs, with serious jailtime and huge fines levied on all offenders. What most people around here don't realize is that every papaya tree in the region is a GMO variety, and a lot of people like to grow them as decoration or as part of a garden, so a lot of people are going to be unknowingly hosed if this law passes. There are also public documents showing that this initiative is almost entirely funded by organic farming groups from out of state, but the whole thing poses as a grass roots movement. Local small farmers have even been speaking out in the local newspapers about the bill. But if you even raise a concern about the wording of the initiative then you're a shill paid by Monsanto, according to the anti-GMO group Have you guys noticed this sort of conspiratorial accusation with other insane groups?
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 18:40 |
|
SA is in on it! LOWTAX it's been a while since I read this thread
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 18:52 |
|
Mercury Hat posted:This showed up on my Tumblr dashboard earlier: This is incredible. There was a pretty good reference to this sorta stuff in John Dies in the End (or it's sequel) that I didn't really get at the time, but it makes so much sense seeing these people collectively swear that an event happened differently. From the outside it's amazing and insane, watching people unknowingly build false collective memories that will become more and more synchronized the longer they discuss the "original reality" they experienced.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 21:03 |
|
Evil Fluffy posted:Why would they confront these people when it might damage their ratings? What sort of godless commie monster are you to think that media outlets should care beyond their bottom line? I know, I was just trying to be outraged again...
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 21:08 |
|
My dad had Glenn Beck cranked up a bit. (He then promptly switched it off joking that he was tired of hearing about the world ending) and I caught a really stupid ad claiming that "OBAMA IS GONNA SEIZE YOUR FOOD IN A TIME OF CRISIS! BUY A FOOD SURVIVAL PACK" So I did a quick google search and came across this: https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-n...rgency_03182012 I'm a tad bit puzzled though in regards to the paranoia though. Also the comments section is a crazy person goldmine! quote:This is nothing new, and is not unique to Obama. This article is also quite inaccurate as far as the literal meaning of the order. Really? That's news to me! Also, yes, I sure do trust the states to provide quality drinking water, electricity, and quality roads! Just like how the South did, I mean it didn't take them a ridiculously long time to get on the grid. Oh wait....
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 21:08 |
|
QuarkJets posted:Have you guys noticed this sort of conspiratorial accusation with other insane groups? It applies to just about every cult. And with conspiracies, it help people feel that they're *important* if the Big Mean Banks are spending time trying to silence them.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 21:11 |
|
RagnarokAngel posted:I think most people don't like saying their memory is faulty. Our memory is supposed to be the only objective personal truth of our personal reality, so the idea that it could be incorrect just feels wrong. Our mind does its best to convince us what we remember must be correct, too, so we end up doubling down. Since I got into new age at one point, I can agree on this being due to the mentality. Evil Fluffy posted:Nobody will believe it when it happens because given how much he seems to love Russia he's either on the take for them or just can't hide his love for Cult of Personality fascist leaders. How sad and yet funny to think back in 1999 he was using Russian's as the go to ground-level bad guys (upper level being the NWO, of course)
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 21:36 |
|
QuarkJets posted:I've noticed a trend of crazy conspiracy-believing people claiming that their opponents are all paid shills. One thing I've noticed is they get really angry if you turn it around on them. In a Facebook argument with an anti-vaxxer (yeah I know) he said something along the lines of "keep believing everything you're told, I bet you think global warming's real as well". I said that all his arguments made sense now that I knew he was in the pocket of Big Oil and holy poo poo the meltdown was glorious.
|
# ? Oct 13, 2014 22:46 |
|
Update on the apparent executive order. Apparently Snoopes debunked it. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp LOUSY HARRY TRUMAN TRYING TO PREPARE FOR A NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST!
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 03:51 |
|
Paid shills are a thing that exist, so it's an obvious explanation for your opponent being dishonest and disingenuous, and if you're far enough down the conspiracy hole your opponents always look dishonest and disingenuous. At the height of xbone mock hysteria on this forum we had people accusing the moderators of being in Microsoft's pocket for not being anti-Bone enough.
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 14:12 |
|
Yeah, off the top of my head, both Israel and China pay people to go on message boards/comment fields and talk up the respective country.
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 15:37 |
|
FuzzySkinner posted:My dad had Glenn Beck cranked up a bit. (He then promptly switched it off joking that he was tired of hearing about the world ending) Yeah, originally the founding fathers tried a confederacy, but they found it didn't work. Giving every state equal power with none above was a failure and always will be a failure for the same reason Communism doesn't work. There's always some shits that want to manipulate the system to get more. Hell, even the confederacy in the 1860's realized that system didn't work and would fail soon after the war if they'd won.
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 15:57 |
|
muscles like this? posted:Yeah, off the top of my head, both Israel and China pay people to go on message boards/comment fields and talk up the respective country. Scientologists too, although they surely don't get paid. I think Burger King or Yum Brands or some other fast food company tried to get shills on message boards way back around 2000. I think I remember them on Fark of all places.
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 20:39 |
|
Jack Gladney posted:Scientologists too, although they surely don't get paid. I think Burger King or Yum Brands or some other fast food company tried to get shills on message boards way back around 2000. I think I remember them on Fark of all places. Aaaand our very own tax money may very well be going towards military sock puppet posters http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/18/023239/us-military-commissions-sock-puppet-program . All the same I don't want to put wind in the sails of wing-nuts looking to dehumanize reasonable people trying to talk sense into them.
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 20:45 |
|
We've hired our own geeks to post positive about Quixtar!
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 20:56 |
|
Party Boat posted:One thing I've noticed is they get really angry if you turn it around on them. In a Facebook argument with an anti-vaxxer (yeah I know) he said something along the lines of "keep believing everything you're told, I bet you think global warming's real as well". I said that all his arguments made sense now that I knew he was in the pocket of Big Oil and holy poo poo the meltdown was glorious. I desperately want to see this for some reason, hah. I will definitely have to remember this tactic.
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 21:05 |
|
muscles like this? posted:Yeah, off the top of my head, both Israel and China pay people to go on message boards/comment fields and talk up the respective country. Tons of companies do this, too, but the paranoids will accuse every dissenting voice of being a shill. And it doesn't matter whether that kind of accusation even exists. For instance, accusing the thousands of scientists who have endorsed GMOs of "being in Monsanto's pocket", even if it's obvious that they don't work for or speak for Monsanto (such as the video of Neil deGrasse Tyson basically speaking into a cell phone camera)
|
# ? Oct 14, 2014 22:48 |
|
QuarkJets posted:What most people around here don't realize is that every papaya tree in the region is a GMO variety
|
# ? Oct 15, 2014 04:14 |
|
Miss-Bomarc posted:In the strictest sense, everything that people eat is a GMO. There are no populations of feral beef cows. The kind of corn you find in a grocery store is not found in nature. GMO has been a thing since humans stopped living in trees. Yeah but inserting genes between different species is bad because of reasons To be fair, "we're inserting bacteria genes into this corn so that it will grow its own pesticides" sounds pretty scary to someone who might not realize that Bt Protein is way safer to eat and better for the environment than the pesticides that are normally dumped on crops
|
# ? Oct 15, 2014 06:22 |
|
I found this via Facebook: http://worldtruth.tv/brain-eating-nanobots-being-put-in-vaccines-says-whistleblower/ I tried to read it, but I couldn't even determine what this person thinks the goal of the brain eating nanobots is. The nanobots appear to be programmed to attack a specific type of brain cell, but I couldn't actually find the intended effect.
|
# ? Oct 15, 2014 17:34 |
|
Ah, the tales I hear when at work. Last night was another good one. Seems the military now asks every one if they're willing to shoot unarmed civilians. If you say no, they find some way to discharge you either medically, or just find some blemish in your record to give you a dishonorable discharge. This is all to prep the military for the coming ebola outbreak at which point they're going to round up everyone into FEMA camps and those that don't go will be shot. The government has also stockpiled millions of these plastic coffin liners that can fit 5 bodies so they can put contaminated deaths in them and incinerate them. Of course the military keeps these in an open to the public military base because there's PHOTOS! But these guys at work will survive because they're big tough men with a few hunting rifles, of course they're more than a match for drones, smart bombs and tanks. Of course all this is made possible because there's a ruling circle of elites (no, not the NWO, illuminati, or any of that jazz) that control all the world's governments and want to decrease the human population because they have an unsupported quote from Bill Gates saying we should cull the populace through, wait for it.... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...a vaccine conspiracy! I really do not feel safe where I work.
|
# ? Oct 15, 2014 18:05 |
|
|
# ? May 21, 2024 14:58 |
|
SocketWrench posted:This is all to prep the military for the coming ebola outbreak at which point they're going to round up everyone into FEMA camps and those that don't go will be shot. Oh man, Deus Ex is coming true!
|
# ? Oct 15, 2014 18:46 |