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Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.
Looking forward to an ESD full of giant butt midgets running around backwards with names like A'ssie Mk'gee.

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Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
So am I crazy or does this poo poo come out in two days and they still haven't announced a concrete price for upgrade tokens?

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Sadly, you're perfectly sane. Cryptic on the other hand... :downs:

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
The thing you should really be concerned about is that they still have untested partially functional features on the test server and they're pushing it to live in a couple days with a bow on it saying "done". :v:

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Gods, some of these tech prices.

I mean, Greens are 2000, Blues are 5000, purples are 12,000. The 'accelerators' can double this. The higher items vary dramatically in TP cost; some cost 10,000, the blues and purples can cost 40-55,000+.

You can buy or make greens directly, blues and purples must be crafted, else haunting the Exchange perhaps. You must grind out the crafting system to even start. I understand the tech items are worth a mess of crafting EXP in themselves, but getting there is a pain in and of itself.

Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'm feeling kinda locked out. You know the higher difficulties are going to need this stuff. For all we know, even basic will want you to have Mark 14.

It doesn't help that of the ships I use, most aren't on the Tier 5-U list, so I even weaker in comparison to content.

Geh. I don't even know where to BEGIN, given I'd basically almost ignored crafting.

Violent Kitten
Dec 26, 2011

Dearmad bhean
an ti ag an gcat.
I figure let the pubbies make the crap and buy it off the exchange once they start undercutting each other.

I'm guessing once the shiny newness wears off and the endgame becomes saturated with lots of lvl 60 players selling off the latest vendor trash, mk xiii stuff will be cheaper on the exchange, like the mk xi/xii stuff is now compared to lower level gear.

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
Just gimme all your rubidium, I'll hook you up with those beam upgrades baby. I got so many components stashed, I could probably slap together 70 or so of them right now, but I'm waiting on that so I can grind the salvage for the experimental upgrades.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Violent Kitten posted:

I figure let the pubbies make the crap and buy it off the exchange once they start undercutting each other.

I'm guessing once the shiny newness wears off and the endgame becomes saturated with lots of lvl 60 players selling off the latest vendor trash, mk xiii stuff will be cheaper on the exchange, like the mk xi/xii stuff is now compared to lower level gear.
They're already undercutting, prices dropped dramatically within a few days of the limited upgrade release. The hard limit on tech upgrade prices is really based on the price/availability of the rare and VR materials that are needed to craft them.

Bloodly posted:

Gods, some of these tech prices.

I mean, Greens are 2000, Blues are 5000, purples are 12,000. The 'accelerators' can double this. The higher items vary dramatically in TP cost; some cost 10,000, the blues and purples can cost 40-55,000+.
Try over 100k TP to hit mk XIV on most purple ship equipment.

quote:

You can buy or make greens directly, blues and purples must be crafted, else haunting the Exchange perhaps. You must grind out the crafting system to even start. I understand the tech items are worth a mess of crafting EXP in themselves, but getting there is a pain in and of itself.

Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'm feeling kinda locked out. You know the higher difficulties are going to need this stuff. For all we know, even basic will want you to have Mark 14.
You're not locked out by ignoring crafting. Pubbies have already knocked the prices on tech upgrades to below the cost of their associated crafting mats, relying on lucky crits to make any profit at all. Just sell all the mats you have and buy the tech upgrades you need, it'll work out about the same.

nuklear
Dec 16, 2013

Korgan posted:

You're authed on the wiki, I couldn't invite you to the chat channel as your character name doesn't exist. Next time you're on a ground map, right click your character portrait in the top left corner of the screen. It'll show your name@handle, post your @handle part in here and we'll get you into the channel.

Hey, name is Vorka@StankyWizard

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


nuklear posted:

Hey, name is Vorka@StankyWizard

You're invited to TheNextGooneration.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
So is the Mac version wonkier than normal for everyone else or is it just me? Can't go five minutes without it crashing.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

MizPiz posted:

So is the Mac version wonkier than normal for everyone else or is it just me? Can't go five minutes without it crashing.

This seems to happen more or less to different people every update. It's a symptom of how Q&A for the mac version is (not at all) handled.

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009
Out of curiosity, what is the likely patch drop time?

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

Westminster System posted:

Out of curiosity, what is the likely patch drop time?

6AM PST

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Narciss posted:

So how far into the game do I have to get before I encounter Kirk & Picard? :D

Since no one actually answered this: Kirk and Picard are not in STO at all.

Haerc
Jan 2, 2011
What about Chewie and Han?

Beluga Snail
Jul 26, 2013

Well, I've downloaded and re-installed yet again to give this game a shot, and decided to nuke the level 12's I had sitting around because I couldn't remember a thing about them and start fresh.

Have a Romulan Tac just starting out, registered on the wiki with FelixReynolds and in-game is D'Aev@felixkelll - hope to see you all around IN SPACE.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Westminster System posted:

Out of curiosity, what is the likely patch drop time?

Next week at some point if dropped means "playable"

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Shocking nobody, a new lockbox thing is coming.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010383-delta-expedition-lock-box
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010373-delta-expedition-ships

Naturally the lockbox and lobi ship are T6, making them superior to the T5u old lockbox ships. More interesting is that the mirror ship has been replaced with a Kazon raider, but even that's superior to those since it's T5 that can be upgraded while the mirror boats can't. Oh, Cryptic. Also, the lobi pet this time is... a cat.

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

Asimo posted:

Also, the lobi pet this time is... a cat.
"But shouldn't we do salamand-"
"CATS"

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
My keys are ready. I need lobi, everything else is a bonus.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Asimo posted:

Shocking nobody, a new lockbox thing is coming.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010383-delta-expedition-lock-box
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010373-delta-expedition-ships

Naturally the lockbox and lobi ship are T6, making them superior to the T5u old lockbox ships. More interesting is that the mirror ship has been replaced with a Kazon raider, but even that's superior to those since it's T5 that can be upgraded while the mirror boats can't. Oh, Cryptic. Also, the lobi pet this time is... a cat.

I thought the old lockbox ships were automatically upgrading.

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

Ches Neckbeard posted:

I thought the old lockbox ships were automatically upgrading.
The old lock box *top prize* ships. Not the blue-box Mirror ones.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
Also, if you look closely you'll see the new lockbox/lobi T6s have 11 console slots, making them essentially T6 fleet.

Haerc
Jan 2, 2011

quote:

Species: Talaxian
Gender: Male
Profession: Engineering, Science or Tactical (your choice!)
Specialization: Intelligence
Traits:

Ground: Superior Teamwork (Increases Exploit Damage of Team)
Ground: Superior Creative (Improves Effectiveness of Many Abilities)
Ground: Natural Immunities (Resistance to Radiation and Toxic)
Space: Salvage Specialist (Receive R&D Materials During Combat)

Hopefully this is terrible, because I really don't want a bunch of Talaxian boffs.

FrostyJones
Sep 23, 2012
Kinda hype for that Hazari Destroyer, even if it'll miss out on RSP with my "ideal" Boff layout. Will kind of depend on how good Ensign and Lieutenant Intel powers are too.

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

Haerc posted:

Hopefully this is terrible, because I really don't want a bunch of Talaxian boffs.
Hopefully they can become the ironically-used bare-chested male Orions of STO in your eyes.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Haerc posted:

Hopefully this is terrible, because I really don't want a bunch of Talaxian boffs.
I imagine it'll be something like the Orion Slaver proc were the drop rate is pretty low and you'll be looking at mostly white and blue mats. More fluff than something you'd rely on for heavy crafting.

FrostyJones posted:

Kinda hype for that Hazari Destroyer, even if it'll miss out on RSP with my "ideal" Boff layout. Will kind of depend on how good Ensign and Lieutenant Intel powers are too.
At the very least you'll want to slap on Intel Team to clear an assortment of annoying NPC buffs. :v: Beyond that though, nobody's really had a chance to mess with the space skills yet since there's been no T6 ships available.

FrostyJones
Sep 23, 2012

Haerc posted:

Hopefully this is terrible, because I really don't want a bunch of Talaxian boffs.

gently caress that. I want a Neelix annoying the gently caress out of my Romulan and Jem'Hadar Boffs :allears:

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
That Hazari destroyer looks really cool.

faxmachine
Apr 1, 2007

Oh yeah....
I remember joking a long time ago about getting a Kazon lockbox. God. loving. Dammit. Cryptic.

FrostyJones
Sep 23, 2012
We talked about flanking a couple of weeks ago, here's something for Borg STFS: http://imgur.com/a/ypmca

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

well. it looks like i'll be buying all the cats.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Acer Pilot posted:

well. it looks like i'll be buying all the cats.

But can you have them all out at once.

Make a character named Toxoplasmosis

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

i hope this means that cats are in the foundry now

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


faxmachine posted:

I remember joking a long time ago about getting a Kazon lockbox. God. loving. Dammit. Cryptic.
I'm amused that it's at least the "booby prize" though.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

Asimo posted:

Shocking nobody, a new lockbox thing is coming.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010383-delta-expedition-lock-box
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010373-delta-expedition-ships

Naturally the lockbox and lobi ship are T6, making them superior to the T5u old lockbox ships. More interesting is that the mirror ship has been replaced with a Kazon raider, but even that's superior to those since it's T5 that can be upgraded while the mirror boats can't. Oh, Cryptic. Also, the lobi pet this time is... a cat.

Ah so it would be better to have a stock ship instead of an mirror ship because you can upgrade it then?

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Axe-man posted:

Ah so it would be better to have a stock ship instead of an mirror ship because you can upgrade it then?

You can upgrade any of the ships on this page.

FelixReynolds posted:

Have a Romulan Tac just starting out, registered on the wiki with FelixReynolds and in-game is D'Aev@felixkelll - hope to see you all around IN SPACE.

You're in.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


I hope I can research super cats with Nepeta leaves :catdrugs:

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Asimo posted:

I'm amused that it's at least the "booby prize" though.

I'm amazed at the effort in this booby prize. Full ship model and bridge model. I guess they had the ship model ready from story elements and they knew that nobody would buy a drat Kazon ship.

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