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Cyberball 2072 posted:So how much did the update break things? I don't mean a bullet point list but in general, a lot? A little? I saw the bit about Boffs. I guess it's time to make the call if I want to buy the big get everything pack, or finally call it quits on this game, most of the things I've heard about the expansion are leaving a bad taste. Looking here and at reddit there is a big lack of people "gee whizzing!" at the new poo poo and that's making me really wonder if it's time to get out.
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g0del posted:It didn't really break things, but it does mean that new players basically have no chance of catching up without spending a ton of money. If you've been playing end-game for awhile and have a fairly well put together char you'll be fine. If you're a new level 50 still rocking the free 40 ship, you're kind of screwed. As a new level 50 still rocking the free 40 ship, how am I screwed?
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Baron Porkface posted:As a new level 50 still rocking the free 40 ship, how am I screwed?
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is there an intelligible way to know if I'm useful in a group fight?
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Are things dying at a reasonable rate and you're not? Then you're fine.
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Is your ship using weapons of the same type with corresponding consoles? Congratulations, you're better than pubbies.
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Baron Porkface posted:is there an intelligible way to know if I'm useful in a group fight?
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So how did they 'upgrade' the pve stuff? It sorta seems like they upped the difficulty and necessary gear level and dumped the rewards. This is based on what other people have said though, I have yet to try it.
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ComradeBigT posted:So how did they 'upgrade' the pve stuff? It sorta seems like they upped the difficulty and necessary gear level and dumped the rewards. This is based on what other people have said though, I have yet to try it. http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7006643-queue-revamp There are now 3 tiers for STFs. Normal stayed the same. Advanced is now the old Elite, with the formerly optional tasks no longer optional, with new optionals thrown in on top. Elite is the top level, L60 characters only, and the now doubled up optionals are again not optional, plus all the enemies are super juiced on steroids, crack and meth, with the newest STFs having some annoying timing/mechanics stuff thrown in on top. Oh yeah, Hive Elite ? Better hope that not everyone is dead at the same time because that's an immediate auto-fail now. At least now the game is nice enough to let you know exactly how many multiple thousands of damage points the dongship lances one-shot you with.
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g0del posted:Well, the free 40 ships were usable for end-game content before. Not great at all, but certainly usable. But all the new enemies in the level 50+ missions are massive HP sponges, and I'm not sure the level 40 ships can really work there. Since the only free end-game ships are holiday ones, you basically get to buy a ship or wait until Christmas. Yeah the Breen ships are both really good and they'll be back in two months. Also fleet ships are still perfectly viable and 700 zen isn't ungrindable even for a new player. As always space-poors should roll some klanks and farm some contra.
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Yeah, all the event ships do. If there's a new one this year it'll be either T6 or T5u too, most likely.
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Asimo posted:Yeah, all the event ships do. If there's a new one this year it'll be either T6 or T5u too, most likely. Please give us a T6 Sarr Theln flight deck cruiser with non-poo poo stats.
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How does one upgrade to T5u, exactly? I've got an Ar'kif Escort Carrier that needs some love.
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CommissarMega posted:How does one upgrade to T5u, exactly? I've got an Ar'kif Escort Carrier that needs some love. Swipe credit card. You need the ship upgrade module for a low, low 700 zen! Or you can get a four-pack for amazing savings!
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Korgan posted:Please give us a T6 Sarr Theln flight deck cruiser with non-poo poo stats. Valatar posted:Swipe credit card. You need the ship upgrade module for a low, low 700 zen! Or you can get a four-pack for amazing savings!  Apparently the tokens for it are purchasable off the exchange, but aren't in a specific category yet. And probably overpriced for a while until undercutting drives them down.
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Expansion redeemed Asimo posted:And probably overpriced for a while until undercutting drives them down. Let's take a look... 
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Oct 15, 2014 07:26
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This was worth Neelix being in STO, I gotta admit.
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Bloodly posted:I...I know this, but from where, oh where? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SySZdvsFYt4
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Oct 15, 2014 07:39
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did the expansion go live already? i haven't opened sto in a few weeks.
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Welp, off to the Exchange then. Valatar posted:Swipe credit card. You need the ship upgrade module for a low, low 700 zen! Or you can get a four-pack for amazing savings! It's no biggie; my Ar'kif is the only one I want to upgrade, and I've got a jillion dil just laying about anyway. EDIT: Dil, not zen. CommissarMega fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Acer Pilot posted:did the expansion go live already? i haven't opened sto in a few weeks.
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Well poo poo. It crashed on me while loading. I a fit of disgust I deleted the cryptic folder and am giving it one chance to reinstall, but what do I need to pull from the recycle bin to salvage my key binds?
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Korgan posted:Please give us a T6 Sarr Theln flight deck cruiser with non-poo poo stats. T6 shuttle for the shuttle weekend super elites.
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g0del posted:Well, the free 40 ships were usable for end-game content before. Not great at all, but certainly usable. But all the new enemies in the level 50+ missions are massive HP sponges, and I'm not sure the level 40 ships can really work there. Since the only free end-game ships are holiday ones, you basically get to buy a ship or wait until Christmas. I would have been more upset if i had bought a Zen ship and then had to pay 700 to upgrade it without potential Intel Boffs rather than buying a t6 fresh. Baron Porkface fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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The neelix mission is the neelix of missions  A regular Of Bajor, followed by two system patrols masquerading as story missions.
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Luckily there's plenty of Talaxian slaughter later. Which I guess is a spoiler, but gently caress it I have to spread the one good thing about the expansion. I admit I'm also less than thrilled about the leveling process, especially since there's some fairly big gaps along the way unless you repeat missions or do queues. Not that it's a bad idea to stock up on delta marks and all, but normal has absolutely lovely rewards and advanced is just painful tedium if you're trying to PUG. And the worst of it is the slow realization that it won't be any better when you're 60, since the advanced queues are still going to be 80% full of folks leveling for the forseeable future...
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Asimo posted:It's live and also kind of poo poo! For some reason that doesn't shock me. I'll patch later and try it but I suspect it'll have the zen begging bowl out and wave it under my nose pretty quickly.
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As a newish player, I didn't bother with Tribble before the release and holy crap are STF's more difficult. Even the basic fleet mark ones, which I could probably solo while watching netflix, now take concentration. An Advanced ISE? I don't think the pubs and I even got to the first charging thing (I forget the name).
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MoraleHazard posted:As a newish player, I didn't bother with Tribble before the release and holy crap are STF's more difficult. Even the basic fleet mark ones, which I could probably solo while watching netflix, now take concentration. An Advanced ISE? I don't think the pubs and I even got to the first charging thing (I forget the name). Looking at parses I took today and ones I took before DR it looks like ISE had about 15M damage to do and ISA has about 65M. It's tedious but doable with a goon group but god drat it's just about impossible with pubbies.
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MikeJF posted:Maybe, but they won't restore the Dil rewards. Be a klingon, do the pi canis dailies. That's like, half a days worth of dil right there.
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Technical Analysis posted:Pubbies will piss and moan for a while on the forums, and then they'll nerf the poo poo out of the new STFs I kinda hope they do dial the advanced STFs down a bit. It's not so much that it's too hard but goddamn it gets boring whittling away at spheres and cubes forever, all for no gear and half the dil. The enemy damage output must be way down because even the low DPS clowns weren't getting blown up, but even with the optionals cleared I had to fight the urge to quit in a fit of boredom. It doesn't say much for the game when I can go to the kitchen and grab a Coke and some pizza and come back to watch my toy spaceship still plinking away unexploded.
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